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Barr overstepped his authority

Rogue Valley said:
Barr overstepped his authority and undermined the integrity of the Mueller investigation

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AG Barr works for Donald Trump, an employer strongly resistant to transparency.



Red: The crux of of the current contretemps. There is no provision in the special counsel rules which provide Barr with the independence and the power to make a determination of guilt, or a lack of sufficient evidence to prove guilt. Barr's task was to provide Congress with a written summary of Mueller's conclusions ... not to interpret those conclusions. Keeping in mind the anti-Mueller investigation memo that Barr shared with the White House previous to his appointment as Attorney General overseeing the Mueller investigation, it becomes clear that Barr entered the office with a documented bias against confirming any [Trump] obstruction of justice.

The sensible remedy here is to have an independent judge cull the 400 page Mueller Report of the most sensitive classified information, and make determinations on what passages, if any, constitute protected "executive privilege" conversations. Then release what remains to Congress (or the public domain).
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What an idiotic message. Barr isn't the special counsel so no rules about the special counsel applies to him.

The contest of which Democrat can make the most absurd claims continues.
 
Mycroft said:
Barr will give Congress everything that is allowed by law and regulation and policy. (nothing you say about what Barr SHOULD do will change that)
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Then Congress will obtain the entire report without Barr. Mueller's investigators are already chaffing at Barr's mis-characterizations.

Trump won''t be allowed stonewall this. One way or another, the Mueller Report will be made public.
 
beefheart said:
You just love dictatorships don't you?

Release the report in full, and let everyone see what is in it. Are you afraid of that thought?
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They can't release the whole report, it's illegal to do so.

By making unreasonable demands the Democrats hope to keep the issue alive, but it's futile. It has already died, and they only beclown themselves.
 
j brown's body said:
It needs to be given to them as part of their constitutionally mandated responsibilities of providing oversight of the executive branch.
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Then they can do their own investigation into the matter.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Barr is a political appointee/employee of the president, one of the individuals being investigated. There is no guarantee of transparency via Barr.

The only surefire cure for public distrust often turns out to be public disclosure.
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Barr is under investigation? When did that happen?

Here's another question for you, did anyone on the Democrat side get to interview Barr before his appointment was confirmed? Did any Democrats vote to approve his appointment?
 
Rogue Valley said:
Barr overstepped his authority and undermined the integrity of the Mueller investigation

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AG Barr works for Donald Trump, an employer strongly resistant to transparency.

Red: The crux of of the current contretemps. There is no provision in the special counsel rules which provide Barr with the independence and the power to make a determination of guilt, or a lack of sufficient evidence to prove guilt. Barr's task was to provide Congress with a written summary of Mueller's conclusions ... not to interpret those conclusions. Keeping in mind the anti-Mueller investigation memo that Barr shared with the White House previous to his appointment as Attorney General overseeing the Mueller investigation, it becomes clear that Barr entered the office with a documented bias against confirming any [Trump] obstruction of justice.

The sensible remedy here is to have an independent judge cull the 400 page Mueller Report of the most sensitive classified information, and make determinations on what passages, if any, constitute protected "executive privilege" conversations. Then release what remains to Congress (or the public domain).
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Rubbish.

The regulations governing the special counsel appointment state: “At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel.”

Notice that the explanation is confidential, only for the AG. Moreover, the policy of the DOJ is not speak publicly about the evidence against uncharged persons. (You might recall it was a criticism by Democrats against Comey in the Hillary email scandal.) And there are 6e restrictions as well as national security restrictions.

So if you are saying that Barr was TOO open, and should have provided nothing to anyone...you may be right.
 
j brown's body said:
Why shouldn't the Mueller report be part of that investigation?
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If the Democrats have done their own investigation and found evidence that Trump was coordinating with Russia to steal emails, promote propaganda or otherwise mess with the 2016 election then the Democrats need to make that information public because, obviously, it contradicts the findings in the Mueller report, as summarized by Barr. Since the Democrats have provided absolutely no evidence of their own then they have no business taking issue with Mueller's findings or with Barr's summary...other than as a political stunt.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Barr overstepped his authority and undermined the integrity of the Mueller investigation

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AG Barr works for Donald Trump, an employer strongly resistant to transparency.



Red: The crux of of the current contretemps. There is no provision in the special counsel rules which provide Barr with the independence and the power to make a determination of guilt, or a lack of sufficient evidence to prove guilt. Barr's task was to provide Congress with a written summary of Mueller's conclusions ... not to interpret those conclusions. Keeping in mind the anti-Mueller investigation memo that Barr shared with the White House previous to his appointment as Attorney General overseeing the Mueller investigation, it becomes clear that Barr entered the office with a documented bias against confirming any [Trump] obstruction of justice.
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Horse manure.
Rogue Valley said:
The sensible remedy here is to have an independent judge cull the 400 page Mueller Report of the most sensitive classified information, and make determinations on what passages, if any, constitute protected "executive privilege" conversations. Then release what remains to Congress (or the public domain).
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Huh? The sensible remedy is to follow the Constitution and quit trying to stir more half baked conspiracy bull**** into the pie. The Mueller investigation was commissioned by the DOJ, he reported back to DOJ. The AG is the head of the DOJ and the country's head law enforcer. And he has no authority to decide whether to prosecute? Sorry, no, Barr's task is enforcing the law NOT reporting to Congress.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
Then Congress will obtain the entire report without Barr.
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How?

Mueller's investigators are already chaffing at Barr's mis-characterizations.
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Their claimed mis-characterizations. But who cares? They are out of the picture and have no say in what Barr does.

Trump won''t be allowed stonewall this.
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Trump has nothing to do with this. It's on Barr.

One way or another, the Mueller Report will be made public.
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No. The report won't be made public...only what Barr allows to be made public.

Get over it.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Barr overstepped his authority and undermined the integrity of the Mueller investigation
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That is a big fat lie from the home of big fat lies, Fake News CNN
 
Bullseye said:
Horse manure.
Huh? The sensible remedy is to follow the Constitution and quit trying to stir more half baked conspiracy bull**** into the pie. The Mueller investigation was commissioned by the DOJ, he reported back to DOJ. The AG is the head of the DOJ and the country's head law enforcer. And he has no authority to decide whether to prosecute? Sorry, no, Barr's task is enforcing the law NOT reporting to Congress.
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Correct. If R.V. were truly interested in the law and policy, he'd cease posting rubbish as 'opinion'.

First, the AG is responsible for following the law and policy. The law is clear, the confidential report is CONFIDENTIAL by law. That he is willing to even summarize its findings is a concession to the mutton-heads screaming for Trump dirt.

Second, the report cannot be released "as is" under 6e and national security secrets. Period. The very recent court opinion on this (in the last day or so) confirmed that judges don't have the right to wave 6(e).

Three, the AG is the top law enforcer in the country. The special council works for the DOJ and has the right to not pursue prosecution, and to defer judgement to the AG. The AG has the right to determine the appropriateness of a prosecution based on evidence and department policy (such as the policy to no indict a sitting President). This power is inherent to the AG as Chief prosecutor, and is an executive decision within his purview - or has our liberal friends forgot about their support of "what a reasonable prosecutor would do" in Ms. Clinton (and non-enforcement against illegal aliens) controversy's?
 
maxparrish said:
Correct. If R.V. were truly interested in the law and policy, he'd cease posting rubbish as 'opinion'.

First, the AG is responsible for following the law and policy. The law is clear, the confidential report is CONFIDENTIAL by law. That he is willing to even summarize its findings is a concession to the mutton-heads screaming for Trump dirt.

Second, the report cannot be released "as is" under 6e and national security secrets. Period. The very recent court opinion on this (in the last day or so) confirmed that judges don't have the right to wave 6(e).

Three, the AG is the top law enforcer in the country. The special council works for the DOJ and has the right to not pursue prosecution, and to defer judgement to the AG. The AG has the right to determine the appropriateness of a prosecution based on evidence and department policy (such as the policy to no indict a sitting President). This power is inherent to the AG as Chief prosecutor, and is an executive decision within his purview - or has our liberal friends forgot about their support of "what a reasonable prosecutor would do" in Ms. Clinton (and non-enforcement against illegal aliens) controversy's?
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Well said. We know how desperate the left is to glean at least a minor score in this scenario, but it's looking worse and worse for them. Grasping at the fact Barr was appointed by Trump to hint at some new conspirance:)eek:) between Trump and Barr shows how far they've sunk. As if Mueller and his team would stand quietly by and see their work, and reputations, go up in flame. And nothing's been released yet; they're armpit deep in a frenzy of their own making.
 
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