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So Trump was only borderline Disloyal

JackA

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He didn’t cross the line into criminal conspiracy. There were secret meetings with Russians. Trump did call for Russia to find Hillary’s emails. He has kissed up to Putin like a grateful puppy. Those of us watching with our eyes open these many months haven’t been imagining it all.

Republicans are overplaying a favorable hand. The balance will be struck when the report comes out.
 
JackA said:
He didn’t cross the line into criminal conspiracy. (he committed NO conspiracy) There were secret meetings with Russians. (no, there weren't) Trump did call for Russia to find Hillary’s emails. (no, he didn't) He has kissed up to Putin like a grateful puppy. (no, he hasn't) Those of us watching with our eyes open these many months haven’t been imagining it all. (LOL!! Yes, you have.)

Republicans are overplaying a favorable hand. The balance will be struck when the report comes out.
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You will be disappointed when you get any information from the report beyond what Barr has already given. Most of it will not be released...not even to Congress. What does get released will be useless to you and others who are looking for dirt.

Seriously, you should be worried about Barr initiating a Special Counsel to look into the stuff the corrupt Obama administration pukes did. Heads are gonna roll.
 
JackA said:
He didn’t cross the line into criminal conspiracy. There were secret meetings with Russians. Trump did call for Russia to find Hillary’s emails. He has kissed up to Putin like a grateful puppy. Those of us watching with our eyes open these many months haven’t been imagining it all.

Republicans are overplaying a favorable hand. The balance will be struck when the report comes out.
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Granted Trump's rhetoric regarding Putin makes people shake their collective heads. That being said several actions are the opposite. Jawboning to keep oil prices low hurt Russia. Walking away from the Iran deal that Russia backs. Actions in Syria, etc. I would say his actions are more mixed than partisans want to admit.
 
JackA said:
He didn’t cross the line into criminal conspiracy. There were secret meetings with Russians. Trump did call for Russia to find Hillary’s emails. He has kissed up to Putin like a grateful puppy. Those of us watching with our eyes open these many months haven’t been imagining it all.

Republicans are overplaying a favorable hand. The balance will be struck when the report comes out.
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The way it appears is that trump and his people were very sloppy and it was clear that here absolutely was collusion, however to make the next step to criminal level beyond a reasonable doubt we would need to know all the Russian players.

Even though the connection was clear we do not know some of the players on the Russian side.

The united States just lost it's first cyber warfare battle, and trump is our booby prize...
 
Mycroft said:
You will be disappointed when you get any information from the report beyond what Barr has already given. Most of it will not be released...not even to Congress. What does get released will be useless to you and others who are looking for dirt.

Seriously, you should be worried about Barr initiating a Special Counsel to look into the stuff the corrupt Obama administration pukes did. Heads are gonna roll.
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Barr has released exactly one sentence from the report, it stated that the report did NOT exonerate trump...
 
JackA said:
He didn’t cross the line into criminal conspiracy. There were secret meetings with Russians. Trump did call for Russia to find Hillary’s emails. He has kissed up to Putin like a grateful puppy. Those of us watching with our eyes open these many months haven’t been imagining it all.

Republicans are overplaying a favorable hand. The balance will be struck when the report comes out.
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Just makeup whatever bull**** you need to pretend is real in this time of terrible TERROR and FEAR for you and all the Russianista LIARS.....we can see that you need it.
 
GDViking said:
Barr has released exactly one sentence from the report, it stated that the report did NOT exonerate trump...
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Barr gave the principle conclusions of the Mueller report. No conspiracy or cooperation. Barr examined Mueller's evidence on obstruction and determined there was no obstruction.

That is exoneration of the nonsense charges from the Trump haters.

Get over it. It's over.
 
When Trumpites come down from cloud nine they’ll decide it’s best to keep the report tucked away.
 
Mycroft said:
Barr gave the principle conclusions of the Mueller report. No conspiracy or cooperation. Barr examined Mueller's evidence on obstruction and determined there was no obstruction.

That is exoneration of the nonsense charges from the Trump haters.

Get over it. It's over.
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Oh it's nowhere near over.

First of all collusion is not an actual crime it is however a very impeachable offense, not to mention a trump appointed shill saying there was no obstruction means nothing, let's face it that is why he got his job, he may as take his pension and go home, his mission is accomplished...

Now it's up the the Democrats in the house to make sure everything becomes public and if impeachment is what is required get the trump crime family to testify under oath I hope they go for it...
 
JackA said:
When Trumpites come down from cloud nine they’ll decide it’s best to keep the report tucked away.
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They are already working very hard to do just that.

We have seen four pages of very carefully worded BS from Barr that contained one sentence from the report, we have a very long way to go...
 
GDViking said:
Oh it's nowhere near over.

First of all collusion is not an actual crime it is however a very impeachable offense, not to mention a trump appointed shill saying there was no obstruction means nothing, let's face it that is why he got his job, he may as take his pension and go home, his mission is accomplished...

Now it's up the the Democrats in the house to make sure everything becomes public and if impeachment is what is required get the trump crime family to testify under oath I hope they go for it...
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Oh...you are back on the "impeachment" thing. Yeah...you'll be disappointed about that, too. The House Dems don't care about impeachment, except for how much they can make Trump look bad, and the Senate won't go along with it.

Impeachment means nothing.
 
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