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How many killings did Antifa cause in 2018? The Alt Right is massacring people worldwide

Zalatix

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Extremist-related killings in 2018 '''overwhelmingly linked to right-wing''' movements: ADL - ABC News
At least 50 people were killed at the hands of domestic extremists in 2018, an increase of 35 percent from the previous year, a new report from the Anti-Defamation League has found.

That total makes 2018 the fourth deadliest year for extremist killings since 1970, and 2018 also saw the highest percentage of right-wing extremist-related killings since 2012, according to the ADL.

The report from the ADL, a Jewish organization focused on fighting anti-Semitism, claims that in 2018, "every single extremist killing — from Pittsburgh to Parkland — had a link to right-wing extremism." The group details the alleged ties -- ranging from white supremacist and racist or misogynistic or Nazi ties -- of some suspects that ABC News had not previously reported on or confirmed.

However, some of the incidents the ADL includes have been reported by ABC News as having anti-Semitic motivations or as hate crimes.
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There's no way to make an honest counter argument that the Left is gunning down people en masse. It's just not happening. Conservatives only bring up Antifa at this point because they're in favor of these extremist killings. The veil has been removed. Liberals aren't gunning down synagogues and mosques or churches. Liberals aren't running over women screaming "incel revolution". Liberals aren't slitting womn's throats. Conservatives are.

There was one dude with a bike lock and one liberal sniper. How long ago was that? How many lives did they take?

Call Conservatives out, demand without relent that they do a body count. Most of them will celebrate privately and sputter in public and fail to come up with the numbers to support their "but muh Antifa" case.
 
Zalatix said:
Extremist-related killings in 2018 '''overwhelmingly linked to right-wing''' movements: ADL - ABC News
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I agree. Right wing white supremacists and right-wing Muslims are responsible for most non-war related mass killings.

Zalatix said:
There's no way to make an honest counter argument that the Left is gunning down people en masse. It's just not happening. Conservatives only bring up Antifa at this point because they're in favor of these extremist killings.
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So you are saying that conservatives, overall, approve of this terrorist violence. Okay. Well you want to cite figures. So prove your assertion, Zalatix. Right now. Give me your polling data right now.

Zalatix said:
The veil has been removed. Liberals aren't gunning down synagogues and mosques or churches. Liberals aren't running over women screaming "incel revolution". Liberals aren't slitting womn's throats. Conservatives are.
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How are these so-called "incels" conservative? What particular conservative ideology are they following?

Zalatix said:
There was one dude with a bike lock and one liberal sniper. How long ago was that? How many lives did they take?

Call Conservatives out, demand without relent that they do a body count. Most of them will celebrate privately and sputter in public and fail to come up with the numbers to support their "but muh Antifa" case.
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Certainly, if someone is using AntiFa as a form of whataboutism, or ad hominem tu quoque, you can level the charge. But despising AntiFa for being a bunch of wicked thugs and hoodlums is perfectly legitimate, if for no other reason than tons of other liberals and left-wing figures hate them.
 
Felis Leo said:
I agree. Right wing white supremacists and right-wing Muslims are responsible for most non-war related mass killings.



So you are saying that conservatives, overall, approve of this terrorist violence. Okay. Well you want to cite figures. So prove your assertion, Zalatix. Right now. Give me your polling data right now.



How are these so-called "incels" conservative? What particular conservative ideology are they following?



Certainly, if someone is using AntiFa as a form of whataboutism, or ad hominem tu quoque, you can level the charge. But despising AntiFa for being a bunch of wicked thugs and hoodlums is perfectly legitimate, if for no other reason than tons of other liberals and left-wing figures hate them.
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I can answer every one of your challenges just by letting Conservatives respond to this thread.
 
I'm not sure that they realize what antifa means. They just know they need to be against it, because they and their friends are being targeted...
 
Zalatix said:
Extremist-related killings in 2018 '''overwhelmingly linked to right-wing''' movements: ADL - ABC News


There's no way to make an honest counter argument that the Left is gunning down people en masse. It's just not happening. Conservatives only bring up Antifa at this point because they're in favor of these extremist killings. The veil has been removed. Liberals aren't gunning down synagogues and mosques or churches. Liberals aren't running over women screaming "incel revolution". Liberals aren't slitting womn's throats. Conservatives are.

There was one dude with a bike lock and one liberal sniper. How long ago was that? How many lives did they take?

Call Conservatives out, demand without relent that they do a body count. Most of them will celebrate privately and sputter in public and fail to come up with the numbers to support their "but muh Antifa" case.
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Mao, stalin, pol pot, killed over 100 million. 80% of the murders nationwide are caused by felons killing other felons. Few of those killed or killed of that 80% number are right wing extremists. Most are inner city narcotics gang members or associates.
 
Antifa was a pathetic Alt-right boogeyman. That BS is over, right? Not even ****ing idiots are comparing them to nazis and the kkk anymore.
 
TurtleDude said:
Mao, stalin, pol pot, killed over 100 million. 80% of the murders nationwide are caused by felons killing other felons. Few of those killed or killed of that 80% number are right wing extremists. Most are inner city narcotics gang members or associates.
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Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot were right wing extremists. And rural areas are just as plagued with white methamphetamine and opiate addicts. Small town people, big town drugs!

Oh and Felis Leo... here's one answer to your challenge.
 
Zalatix said:
Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot were right wing extremists. And rural areas are just as plagued with white methamphetamine and opiate addicts. Small town people, big town drugs!

Oh and Felis Leo... here's one answer to your challenge.
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Serious reality disconnect here. In fact, that might be the most stupid dishonest statement on this board today.
 
TurtleDude said:
Serious reality disconnect here. In fact, that might be the most stupid dishonest statement on this board today.
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No, it was already outdone by the idiocy of your previous post. Let's go down the list of why your argument was so brain dead:

1) Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao were right wing extremists.

2) We're talking about murders in America and the world today, not what happened decades ago. If you want to go into the distant past, hell, we can talk about the hundreds of millions killed by white invaders in North and South America, Australia and Africa. But I'm sure you want to arbitrarily draw the line where now? The 1950s? Because that excludes the global genocide inflicted by white invaders?

3) Your entire post was the kind of whataboutism that I predicted in this thread.

So your response was utter, complete, tragic, and irretrievable failure.
 
Zalatix said:
No, it was already outdone by the idiocy of your previous post. Let's go down the list of why your argument was so brain dead:

1) Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao were right wing extremists.

2) We're talking about murders in America and the world today, not what happened decades ago. If you want to go into the distant past, hell, we can talk about the hundreds of millions killed by white invaders in North and South America, Australia and Africa. But I'm sure you want to arbitrarily draw the line where now? The 1950s? Because that excludes the global genocide inflicted by white invaders?

3) Your entire post was the kind of whataboutism that I predicted in this thread.

So your response was utter, complete, tragic, and irretrievable failure.
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when you post something that stupid and dishonest, nothing you can say can be seen as credible in the same thread or related topic. Your concept of Left and Right is so biased and idiotic, most people will laugh at that
 
TurtleDude said:
when you post something that stupid and dishonest, nothing you can say can be seen as credible in the same thread or related topic. Your concept of Left and Right is so biased and idiotic, most people will laugh at that
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Either you are in a conflict with reality on a level not seen since that War of the Roses movie, or you're parodying Conservative posters. Which is it?
 
Zalatix said:
Either you are in a conflict with reality on a level not seen since that War of the Roses movie, or you're parodying Conservative posters. Which is it?
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I don't see anyone supporting the massive idiocy of claiming that stalin and mao were right wingers.
 
Thank GOD they only bash people in the head with a heavy bicycle U-bar lock! How altruistic of them! They must be the good guys!
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't see anyone supporting the massive idiocy of claiming that stalin and mao were right wingers.
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I don't see anyone supporting the cartoonish idiocy of your whataboutism, or your reality distorting act of bringing up massacres that right wing leaders inflicted decades ago, as a counter argument to right wing massacres happening worldwide TODAY.

And since you have admitted openly here that you are engaging in whataboutism and that you are too scared to address the murders happening TODAY, you are now on ignore. And now you've lost this fight for good.
 
PoppyCock said:
Thank GOD they only bash people in the head with a heavy bicycle U-bar lock! How altruistic of them! They must be the good guys!
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Another Conservative who says right wingers murdering scores of people are totally meh but let's go into total panic mode about bike locks!!!
 
Zalatix said:
Another Conservative who says right wingers murdering scores of people are totally meh but let's go into total panic mode about bike locks!!!
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Because bashing people in the head with 3 pounds of steel is just sooooo lovey dovey....
 
PoppyCock said:
Because bashing people in the head with 3 pounds of steel is just sooooo lovey dovey....
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What do you think of his claim that Stalin and Mao were right wingers? when someone says something that hateful of all known reality, I write off just about anything else they have to say as loony tune silliness
 
TurtleDude said:
What do you think of his claim that Stalin and Mao were right wingers? when someone says something that hateful of all known reality, I write off just about anything else they have to say as loony tune silliness
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Agreed, that is a flat out, discrediting lie. Shameful lie. The stuff ignore list are made of.
 
PoppyCock said:
Agreed, that is a flat out, discrediting lie. Shameful lie. The stuff ignore list are made of.
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It is hilarious in its complete contempt for known reality
 
ecofarm said:
Antifa was a pathetic Alt-right boogeyman. That BS is over, right? Not even ****ing idiots are comparing them to nazis and the kkk anymore.
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No one ever compared them because they are "anti" nazis and klan...but they also happen to be communist by political association, therefore the alt-Right has decided that Democrats ❤ Antifa.

Never mind that Antifa have sworn that "liberals get the bullet, too".
 
PoppyCock said:
Because bashing people in the head with 3 pounds of steel is just sooooo lovey dovey....
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Another Conservative who says right wingers murdering scores of people are totally meh but let's go into total panic mode about bike locks!!!
 
augustus said:
No you just get rid of them in utero. Don't even give them a chance to breathe.
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More whataboutism from Conservatives who think alt right murderers are cool.

Felis Leo, your post did not age well. EVERYONE on the right has so far said it's okay for the alt right to murder people. EVERYONE. ZERO condemnation whatsoever.
 
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