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His memo and report concluded there was no collusion, conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Mueller as well said their is no evidence.

So what was the basis of starting the investigation?

Given that the credibility of Nadler and Schiff are rather compromised at this point, should we accept their judgement as to the best direction of where their committees investigative efforts be placed?
 
Did Mueller indict several Russians for election interference? Yes. Was that part of his job as SC. Yes.

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Nunes will always be a colluding traitor. Time will catch up with him.
 
Athanasius68 said:
His memo and report concluded there was no collusion, conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Mueller as well said their is no evidence.

So what was the basis of starting the investigation?

Given that the credibility of Nadler and Schiff are rather compromised at this point, should we accept their judgement as to the best direction of where their committees investigative efforts be placed?
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Did Nadler and Schiff appoint Mueller? When do you reckon that trump and his conned base stopped smearing Mueller, an appointed federal employee?
 
Nunes is a partisan political hack. He has never been right about anything.
 
Athanasius68 said:
His memo and report concluded there was no collusion, conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.
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Which is false, as we know from Mueller's indictments and sentencing memos.

Mueller as well said their is no evidence.
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Mueller most definitely did not say that. You are now posting lies.
Airyaman said:
Did Mueller indict several Russians for election interference? Yes. Was that part of his job as SC. Yes.

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He also indicted and got guilty please from numerous Trump campaign members for lying about their collusion with Russians.
 
Athanasius68 said:
His memo and report concluded there was no collusion, conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Mueller as well said their is no evidence.

So what was the basis of starting the investigation?

Given that the credibility of Nadler and Schiff are rather compromised at this point, should we accept their judgement as to the best direction of where their committees investigative efforts be placed?
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Nunes is your champion. Yeah, if you are looking to follow an exemplary leader, Nunes is your guy. He's a brilliant strategist and has all the love and respect of a greatful nation. Stick with Nunes. There's your future.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Which is false, as we know from Mueller's indictments and sentencing memos.

Mueller most definitely did not say that. You are now posting lies.


He also indicted and got guilty please from numerous Trump campaign members for lying about their collusion with Russians.
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That's a lie.
 
Barnacle said:
That's a lie.
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No it's not. PapaD and Flynn were both indicted for lying about collusion. Cohen was indicted by SDNY for lying to Congress for collusion. Stone was indicted in relation to his communications with Wikileaks.

It's not a lie, it is 100% the truth.
 
Airyaman said:
Did Mueller indict several Russians for election interference? Yes. Was that part of his job as SC. Yes.
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Were those Russians and their "election interference" tied to Trump's Russia collusion?
 
Slyfox696 said:
No it's not. PapaD and Flynn were both indicted for lying about collusion. Cohen was indicted by SDNY for lying to Congress for collusion. Stone was indicted in relation to his communications with Wikileaks.
It's not a lie, it is 100% the truth.
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There was no lying about collusion because there was no collusion. What a load of BS.
 
Barnacle said:
There was no lying about collusion because there was no collusion. What a load of BS.
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It is literally in the indictments and sentencing memos. You are posting outright lies.

PapaD was indicted for lying about his interactions with Mifsud. Flynn for lying about his communications with Russian officials to remove sanctions for election interference. Cohen for lying to Congress about his work in Russia for Trump Tower.

Russia helped Trump campaign, Trump campaign accepted (PapaD), worked with (Cohen) and promised to reward (Flynn). That's collusion.
 
Barnacle said:
There was no lying about collusion because there was no collusion. What a load of BS.
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Colusion is simply people working together. So technically yes. PapaD worked with Misfud.
However, we know nothing came from their efforts because Mueller told us in his plea with PapaD-- the campaign was uninterested.

We also know nothing happened there because the Russians would later make a run at Trump Jr to accomplish the same objective at the famous tower meeting.

And we know nothing happened there because Mueller tells us in his Stone indictment, that a few months later a senior Trump official was asking Stone to find out what Wikileaks had.

And people can't understand why the Mueller report says the Trump campaign generally ignored Russian entreaties.
 
Athanasius68 said:
His memo and report concluded there was no collusion, conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Mueller as well said their is no evidence.

So what was the basis of starting the investigation?

Given that the credibility of Nadler and Schiff are rather compromised at this point, should we accept their judgement as to the best direction of where their committees investigative efforts be placed?
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Irreparable harm was brought about by our country and it was not caused by Trump but by the likes of James Comey, Chuck Todd, Brian Stelter, and Chris Matthews who have accomplished Putin's goal of dividing our country.
 
Slyfox696 said:
No it's not. PapaD and Flynn were both indicted for lying about collusion. Cohen was indicted by SDNY for lying to Congress for collusion. Stone was indicted in relation to his communications with Wikileaks.

It's not a lie, it is 100% the truth.
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I'm sorry that is not how logic or the law works. They were charged for making false statements to FBI agents about specific concrete facts listed in either the indictment or plea agreement - not "about collusion", a subjective and judgmental characterization that does not appear in the charges.

Your error, which I suspect you already know, is in the disingenuous attempt to slip in your sinister characterization as a judgement of the prosecutor. Nice try.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Which is false, as we know from Mueller's indictments and sentencing memos.

Mueller most definitely did not say that. You are now posting lies.


He also indicted and got guilty please from numerous Trump campaign members for lying about their collusion with Russians.
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he got nobody for collusion. you are lying now.
 
Barnacle said:
Were those Russians and their "election interference" tied to Trump's Russia collusion?
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Does not matter. Establishing potential links between the Russian government and Trump's campaign was only part of SC's scope. If you'll read the opening paragraph of the SC appointment document it states "By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C. §§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian govemment's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election"

Mueller did just that in the discovery and subsequent indictment of several members of Russian intelligence for hacking, social media manipulation, etc.
 
Bucky said:
Irreparable harm was brought about by our country and it was not caused by Trump but by the likes of James Comey, Chuck Todd, Brian Stelter, and Chris Matthews who have accomplished Putin's goal of dividing our country.
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What ridiculous partisan hyperbole. You Trump supporters are the world's biggest snowflakes.
 
Bucky said:
Irreparable harm was brought about by our country and it was not caused by Trump but by the likes of James Comey, Chuck Todd, Brian Stelter, and Chris Matthews who have accomplished Putin's goal of dividing our country.
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Until every American who wants to can read the report from Mueller and determine if Barr is 100% correct, this is just irresponsible partisan speculation.
 
haymarket said:
Until every American who wants to can read the report from Mueller and determine if Barr is 100% correct, this is just irresponsible partisan speculation.
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Barr is presenting a legal opinion as to Obstruction. It by definition won't be 100% correct as to Obstruction. Barr should NEVER have inserted his legal opinion especially given his biases which in large part are the reason he got the AG job. He turned what the American people deserved into a partisan political document. The country deserved better.

As to Conspiracy (not collusion which is not a Federal Indictment to Prosecute). It is somewhat more definitive as you need believable flippers that allow a prosecutor to connect the dots from one conspirator to the next making an entire chain and/or you need RICO. Mueller never showed any signs that he would breach the high bar that is the standard for a Conspiracy charge in our Federal System. Its left to the Congress to make a political judgement regarding Collusion IF THEY WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD specifically regarding the President. Mueller never showed any inclination to fight Barr over the Justice Dept policy regarding the prosecution of a sitting President regarding either Conspiracy or Obstruction.

Save a review of the actual Mueller report my opinion today would be for the Congress not to delve too deeply into Collusion on the part of the President. It has been proven enough times that it is almost never the act itself that causes politicians problems. ITS THE COVER UP! The Congress should focus on the COVER UP at it relates specifically to the Mueller Probe again opining for now, with reservations until we see the full Mueller report.
 
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maxparrish said:
I'm sorry that is not how logic or the law works. They were charged for making false statements to FBI agents about specific concrete facts listed in either the indictment or plea agreement
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And what were those "specific concrete facts"?

Collusion. Like I said. Your attempt to play words games rather than engage in honest discussion is noted.

not "about collusion", a subjective and judgmental characterization that does not appear in the charges.
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So what does appear in the charges? What was the specific concrete facts they lied about? Do tell us.

Your error
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It's not an error.
is in the disingenuous attempt to slip in your sinister characterization as a judgement of the prosecutor. Nice try.
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Uh, no, I just read the indictments and sentencing memos where the Mueller team clearly laid out how they colluded with Russia. So why are you posting lies about it?
Integrityrespec said:
he got nobody for collusion. you are lying now.
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He got people for lying about collusion. Like I said.

Don't post lies.
 
Barnacle said:
That's a lie.
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Lying is the #1 Democratic Party's tactic. The more it is a lie, the more they will shout it in a contest of who can tell the biggest lie the most times with the most furious language.
 
Slyfox696 said:
And what were those "specific concrete facts"?

Collusion. Like I said. Your attempt to play words games rather than engage in honest discussion is noted.

So what does appear in the charges? What was the specific concrete facts they lied about? Do tell us.

It's not an error.
Uh, no, I just read the indictments and sentencing memos where the Mueller team clearly laid out how they colluded with Russia. So why are you posting lies about it?
He got people for lying about collusion. Like I said.

Don't post lies.
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What an idiotic message. No one was prosecuted for collusion and anyone with any knowledge whatsoever knows there is no such thing as the crime of "collusion." No one was convicted for lying about "collusion."
 
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