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Line crossed: Three SDNY chiefs say Trump can be indicted

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If I were Trump, I wouldn't be dancing in the end zone just yet,

Line crossed: Three SDNY chiefs say Trump can be indicted

Two former chief prosecutors at the Southern District of New York join MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent, Ari Melber for a wide-ranging interview. In a discussion about whether a sitting President, from any period of time, could be indicted given the Department of Justice policy against it, both former prosecutors agree that it is theoretically possible. One prosecutor references a potential campaign finance case against President Trump as not serious enough, in his view, to charge but agreed with the other that a bribe or a more serious crime, could be.
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And to those who say dems "hopes have been dashed", I say this: Repubs love to say what dems want, and what they say you can bet it's framed in a way that serves their agenda.

However, truth be told ( although repubs are not into the truth) but truth be told:


Dems are focused on Trump's crimes, and 'collusion' etc, is only part of it. In fact, I've listened to many
in the media state this.

There are many investigations into Trump's business dealings, tax fraud, bank fraud, money laundering etc.

On those, the verdict is far from being in.

So, one down, 16 to go.
 
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You can jump up and down and celebrate when Trump is indicted in 2025.:lamo
 
The problem is Trump has gotten everyone to use a word that means nothing. Collusion....we know the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself conspired (who other than a crime boss doesn't use email or text) with Russians its been out in the open for 2 years. Everyone's looking for a smoking gun when the actual gun is sitting right out in the open it's cold now.
Stop letting Trump rule the narrative. He's playing 3 card Monty and the rule of that game is distraction which Trump has been doing very well.
 
OscarLevant said:
If I were Trump, I wouldn't be dancing in the end zone just yet,




And to those who say dems "hopes have been dashed", I say this: Repubs love to say what dems want, and what they say you can bet it's framed in a way that serves their agenda.

However, truth be told ( although repubs are not into the truth) but truth be told:


Dems are focused on Trump's crimes, and 'collusion' etc, is only part of it. In fact, I've listened to many
in the media state this.

There are many investigations into Trump's business dealings, tax fraud, bank fraud, money laundering etc.

On those, the verdict is far from being in.

So, one down, 16 to go.
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Uh-huh. Maybe there should be a CRIME FIRST.


I notice that NO CURRENT SDNY attorneys are making that claim.

The Obama Swamp Leftover Endless Search for a Crime to Get Trump...is OVER.

The SDNY will not be allowed to engage in such illegal bull**** under the new USAG.

Rosenstein is GONE.
 
You would have to find a current Federal Prosecutor willing to challenge Barr. Anybody got one of those? I don't think so. They would just be handing in their resignations.
 
veritas1 said:
You can jump up and down and celebrate when Trump is indicted in 2025.:lamo
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With Trumps weight gain and terrible diet he wont make that far.
 
OscarLevant said:
If I were Trump, I wouldn't be dancing in the end zone just yet,




And to those who say dems "hopes have been dashed", I say this: Repubs love to say what dems want, and what they say you can bet it's framed in a way that serves their agenda.

However, truth be told ( although repubs are not into the truth) but truth be told:


Dems are focused on Trump's crimes, and 'collusion' etc, is only part of it. In fact, I've listened to many
in the media state this.

There are many investigations into Trump's business dealings, tax fraud, bank fraud, money laundering etc.

On those, the verdict is far from being in.

So, one down, 16 to go.
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The "16 investigations" LIE, again.

Please provide the LINK to them, so that we can ridicule that TOTAL BULL**** as we have the " SEALED INDICTMENTS" LIE.

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If Trump were indicted (is that even possible) at the federal level, he will likely pardon himself and the SCOTUS will likely uphold his self-pardon. SDNY isn't going to play that game.

I really just want to see the full report. Trump said we should all be able to see it, but we all know how empty Trump's statements are.
 
Middle_Ground said:
The problem is Trump has gotten everyone to use a word that means nothing. Collusion....we know the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself conspired (who other than a crime boss doesn't use email or text) with Russians its been out in the open for 2 years. Everyone's looking for a smoking gun when the actual gun is sitting right out in the open it's cold now.
Stop letting Trump rule the narrative. He's playing 3 card Monty and the rule of that game is distraction which Trump has been doing very well.
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I'm catching what you're laying down and, frankly, I agree.

This Trump stuff really was NEVER about his campaign or Russians. It was always about the extensive criminal endeavors Trump and his family engaged in over the years and how he promoted those endeavors all the way to the presidency. In fact, the Russia stuff was little more than a REPUBLICAN propaganda campaign designed specifically to steer people away from the REAL crimes. Fortunately, the American people saw through all that, elected Democrats who saw through all that and now the REAL investigation can begin. Mueller was just a smoke screen and a set up by Trump who thought he was going to Houdini his way way through all these crimes.

I have to give you guys credit, you don't quit.:lamo
 
OscarLevant said:
If I were Trump, I wouldn't be dancing in the end zone just yet,




And to those who say dems "hopes have been dashed", I say this: Repubs love to say what dems want, and what they say you can bet it's framed in a way that serves their agenda.

However, truth be told ( although repubs are not into the truth) but truth be told:


Dems are focused on Trump's crimes, and 'collusion' etc, is only part of it. In fact, I've listened to many
in the media state this.

There are many investigations into Trump's business dealings, tax fraud, bank fraud, money laundering etc.

On those, the verdict is far from being in.

So, one down, 16 to go.
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Three guys who are no longer in any government office have nothing but their opinion. Like assholes, everyone has one. Some even stink.

But keep in mind that the SDNY follows the orders of the DOJ AG. That would be Barr. That means it's HIS opinion that matters.
 
Grokmaster said:
Uh-huh. Maybe there should be a CRIME FIRST.


I notice that NO CURRENT SDNY attorneys are making that claim.

The Obama Swamp Leftover Endless Search for a Crime to Get Trump...is OVER.

The SDNY will not be allowed to engage in such illegal bull**** under the new USAG.

Rosenstein is GONE.
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I've been watching MSNBC this morning and there is a crime. The crime is Trump. There really need be no other crime. Trump being Trump is enough of a crime.
 
Lutherf said:
I've been watching MSNBC this morning and there is a crime. The crime is Trump. There really need be no other crime. Trump being Trump is enough of a crime.
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Obviously. How fun it is witnessing the Nationwide Left Meltdown....


Here's Madcow:


 
Lutherf said:
I've been watching MSNBC this morning and there is a crime. The crime is Trump. There really need be no other crime. Trump being Trump is enough of a crime.
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Boy, does that sound familiar. I think we've seen that before. Something is ringing in my memory banks. Something about crimes of emails and real estate deals that never happened. It was the crime of being a person.

I wonder why I'm remembering something like that. Surely it never happened. The Republicans, we all know, never chased crimes that didn't happen. Their targets were guilty of being people.
 
Being indicted and being found guilty are two different things. The former prosecutors should know that.
 
tres borrachos said:
Boy, does that sound familiar. I think we've seen that before. Something is ringing in my memory banks. Something about crimes of emails and real estate deals that never happened. It was the crime of being a person.

I wonder why I'm remembering something like that. Surely it never happened. The Republicans, we all know, never chased crimes that didn't happen. Their targets were guilty of being people.
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Such as?
 
Middle_Ground said:
The problem is Trump has gotten everyone to use a word that means nothing. Collusion....we know the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself conspired (who other than a crime boss doesn't use email or text) with Russians its been out in the open for 2 years. Everyone's looking for a smoking gun when the actual gun is sitting right out in the open it's cold now.
Stop letting Trump rule the narrative. He's playing 3 card Monty and the rule of that game is distraction which Trump has been doing very well.
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I've been saying since this Mueller thing started that collusion, even if it did exist, isn't a crime.

I doubt the SDNY will stop their investigations. If they find something, we will know. If they don't, they will move on and Trump opponents won't be stupid enough to chant things like "Lock him up" at the rallies for their candidate in 2020. Nobody would be stupid enough to do something like that, after all.....
 
tres borrachos said:
Boy, does that sound familiar. I think we've seen that before. Something is ringing in my memory banks. Something about crimes of emails and real estate deals that never happened. It was the crime of being a person.

I wonder why I'm remembering something like that. Surely it never happened. The Republicans, we all know, never chased crimes that didn't happen. Their targets were guilty of being people.
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Those emails and real estate crimes DID happen. There were no convictions because Clinton is of the political class and the political class protected her. The emails, in fact, are still coming out - Judicial Watch Uncovers More Classified Emails in Hillary Clinton’s Unsecure Email System - Judicial Watch
 
Lutherf said:
Those emails and real estate crimes DID happen. There were no convictions because Clinton is of the political class and the political class protected her. The emails, in fact, are still coming out - Judicial Watch Uncovers More Classified Emails in Hillary Clinton’s Unsecure Email System - Judicial Watch
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Crimes happened, and the Trump DOJ refuses to indict her for them? How irresponsible of him. So you're telling me that the Chief Law Enforcer in this country refuses to abide by his oath? Wow. Sounds like his Presidency is an abysmal failure.
 
tres borrachos said:
Boy, does that sound familiar. I think we've seen that before. Something is ringing in my memory banks. Something about crimes of emails and real estate deals that never happened. It was the crime of being a person.

I wonder why I'm remembering something like that. Surely it never happened. The Republicans, we all know, never chased crimes that didn't happen. Their targets were guilty of being people.
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There was water.
The water was white.
The Star was Ken.
The Newt was trite.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
There was water.
The water was white.
The Star was Ken.
The Newt was trite.
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It's only bad if it happens to former reality TV game show hosts. He's awesome, you know. He's going to stop the brown people from stealing his fan base's blueberry picking jobs.
 
tres borrachos said:
I've been saying since this Mueller thing started that collusion, even if it did exist, isn't a crime.

I doubt the SDNY will stop their investigations. If they find something, we will know. If they don't, they will move on and Trump opponents won't be stupid enough to chant things like "Lock him up" at the rallies for their candidate in 2020. Nobody would be stupid enough to do something like that, after all.....
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I doubt that they will be allowed to continue FISHING EXPEDITIONS started under Rosenstein.

If there is not a solid LEGAL basis for an investigation , THEY ARE OVER.


"We need to GE TRUMP" is not a LEGAL BASIS for DOJ investigations.
 
tres borrachos said:
I've been saying since this Mueller thing started that collusion, even if it did exist, isn't a crime.

I doubt the SDNY will stop their investigations. If they find something, we will know. If they don't, they will move on and Trump opponents won't be stupid enough to chant things like "Lock him up" at the rallies for their candidate in 2020. Nobody would be stupid enough to do something like that, after all.....
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I love you guys. Y'all needed a special prosecutor to sort out all the Trump/Russia coordination that manipulated a presidential election and was a distinct and dire threat to our national security but, now, it never really mattered to begin with. Normally I'd be a little embarrassed for all of you but, frankly, you people have been such ****s for the past couple of years that I'm finding even that level of compassion to be hard to find.
 
mike2810 said:
Being indicted and being found guilty are two different things. The former prosecutors should know that.
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I'll bite. Can you let me know which former prosecutors have come out and said "Being indicted and being found guilty are the same thing"?

They may have slept through that part of their law school classes.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'll bite. Can you let me know which former prosecutors have come out and said "Being indicted and being found guilty are the same thing"?

They may have slept through that part of their law school classes.
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I'll bite. Can you let me know when former DOJ members were christened the arbiters of the "indictment" of a sitting POTUS?
 
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