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Democrats------------oh please do subpoena Mueller

haymarket said:
What does it say about Trump that his campaign had so many nefarious people around him?
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Nothing in particular. Put anyone in D.C. under the same microscope and you'll find as much. The biggest fish caught, Manafort, was a high level political operative for decades and has been involved in multiple admins.
 
Fishking said:
Nothing in particular. Put anyone in D.C. under the same microscope and you'll find as much. The biggest fish caught, Manafort, was a high level political operative for decades and has been involved in multiple admins.
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FBI was already looking into Manafort.
FBI was already looking into Flynn.
FBI was already looking into Russia's interference.

Why later, was a microscope put on Team Trump specifically? Don't be partisan...just discuss clinically. Because Trump's team was lying about Russia connections, acting like they were in bed with Russia, and the catalyst, firing Comey because of Russia. Trump put Trump under a *REPUBLICAN* microscope. Democrats had zero power, sorry.

Contrast to Hillary, who was put under a microscope by partisans for doing her job, for years. What did they turn up? Prosecutable crimes? No.
Contrast that to Bill under a microscope by a partisan for 4 years under the partisan Starr. What did they turn up? An affair coupled with setting up so he could perjure himself.
What about Obama, after all the nutty attacks...birther ism wasn't even taken seriously...what about fast and furious? Not directed by Obama. 8 years of Republican's hounding him, yielding how many crimes?
So no, putting them all under a less legitimate microscope, yielding nothing.

No, Republicans in recent history have racked up the most indictments of their team in office by leaps and bounds.
Team Trump scared their own administration with their stupidity. Some had to be indicted and jailed, and the scope is so large that it's expanded well beyond the bounds of the SC now.
 
Mach said:
FBI was already looking into Manafort.
FBI was already looking into Flynn.
FBI was already looking into Russia's interference.

Why later, was a microscope put on Team Trump specifically? Don't be partisan...just discuss clinically. Because Trump's team was lying about Russia connections, acting like they were in bed with Russia, and the catalyst, firing Comey because of Russia. Trump put Trump under a *REPUBLICAN* microscope. Democrats had zero power, sorry.

Contrast to Hillary, who was put under a microscope by partisans for doing her job, for years. What did they turn up? Prosecutable crimes? No.
Contrast that to Bill under a microscope by a partisan for 4 years under the partisan Starr. What did they turn up? An affair coupled with setting up so he could perjure himself.
What about Obama, after all the nutty attacks...birther ism wasn't even taken seriously...what about fast and furious? Not directed by Obama. 8 years of Republican's hounding him, yielding how many crimes?
So no, putting them all under a less legitimate microscope, yielding nothing.

No, Republicans in recent history have racked up the most indictments of their team in office by leaps and bounds.
Team Trump scared their own administration with their stupidity. Some had to be indicted and jailed, and the scope is so large that it's expanded well beyond the bounds of the SC now.
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The investigation began during the Obama Admin. Why did they think Trump & Co. was messing around with Russia?

Release all of it. Mueller's report, the FISA application, the secret Congressional testimony.
All of it.
 
Airyaman said:
Keep on track. This is what you said (broken up to address)



You cannot know this until the findings of the report are made public. Mueller could very well have discovered some evidence of working in conjunction with Russia, but it may not have reached the level of criminality, or even that Mueller (or Rosenstein) did not believe the potential charges were worth carrying out due to the political turbulence they would create.You simply cannot make this claim because you don't have the report.

Where?



People keep calling it the "fake dossier" but that has never once been shown to be true. That being said, what potential criminal action took place in creating the dossier?



What foreign government? No government was involved in the creation fo the dossier.

You should at least try to get some of the facts straight. Seems you got nothing right in this set of sentences.
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The dossier was compiled by a foreigner using anonymous foreign sources.
If using foreign sources to find dirt on Mr. Trump was not illegal for Mrs. Clinton, then responding to foreign sources by Mr. Trump about dirt on Mrs. Clinton is also not illegal.
 
Lets set a special prosecutor on Hillary and all those related to the Trump Dossier and the Trump probe's beginning. Then see where that goes.
 
Logical1 said:
I love the idea of democrats in Congress subpoenaing Mueller. The republicans on the committees then can ask him why he didnt indite Hillary, Comey, and all the rest of the democrats!!!

Bring it on Schiff, and get your wee wee whacked again. The Mueller witch hunt made you look vindictive and stupid, and this would be the zenith of ignorance for democrats.
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Great, glad you’re on board.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Lets set a special prosecutor on Hillary and all those related to the Trump Dossier and the Trump probe's beginning. Then see where that goes.
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Yes, weaponize the DOJ against one’s political enemies. This seems wise.
 
Logical1 said:
I love the idea of democrats in Congress subpoenaing Mueller. The republicans on the committees then can ask him why he didnt indite Hillary, Comey, and all the rest of the democrats!!!
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Why hasn't Trump_DoJ indicted Crooked Killary Clinton and her crooked, criminal, spoiled ilk? (Treasonous ilk? idk)

What the hell is taking so damn long?

What the hell is Trump_DoJ waiting on?
There's plenty of evidence.
There're literal tons of evidence. We've all seen the YouTube™ videos.
Can hardly even go on the political side of the internet without stepping in a pile of evidence.


What's the point of putting Donald Don in charge of the DoJ if he can't get the real **** done?

Real **** like protecting our country from the enemies within? (Traitors? idk)
If anyone ever were to bring this Great Nation down, it'd be The Enemies Within™.
We all know who they are.
Trump knows who they are.
Why isn't he doing anything, dammit?


What happened to Lock Her Up™?

When is Dithering Don™ gonna get it on?
 
Athanasius68 said:
The dossier was compiled by a foreigner using anonymous foreign sources.
If using foreign sources to find dirt on Mr. Trump was not illegal for Mrs. Clinton, then responding to foreign sources by Mr. Trump about dirt on Mrs. Clinton is also not illegal.
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You're not really up to speed on any of this, are you? Perhaps you should review the details and get back with us when you do.

It's more than just "foreign sources". You can certainly get opposition research from foreign sources, if it is done properly.

That is all the clues I'm giving you. Let us know when you understand what the differences were.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, weaponize the DOJ against one’s political enemies. This seems wise.
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Well it is certainly Russian. What a coincidence.
 
Airyaman said:
You're not really up to speed on any of this, are you? Perhaps you should review the details and get back with us when you do.

It's more than just "foreign sources". You can certainly get opposition research from foreign sources, if it is done properly.

That is all the clues I'm giving you. Let us know when you understand what the differences were.
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As a general rule, I hate text speech, but LOL.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Well, since no indictments on that score...
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You guys are certainly on the same talking points. Why bother discussing these things if you keep coming back to the same thing?
 
Airyaman said:
You guys are certainly on the same talking points. Why bother discussing these things if you keep coming back to the same thing?
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Because that's the bottom line...
There was no collusion; no conspiracy to fix the 2016 election.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Because that's the bottom line...
There was no collusion; no conspiracy to fix the 2016 election.
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You should just log off then, nothing more to really discuss.
 
Barnacle said:
The question really should be why some people were not considered nefarious until they worked for Trump.

Manafort (worked 5 months for Trump) has worked in presidential politics since the 1976 Republican convention.
So, for 40 years working in presidential politics and nobody considered him nefarious then?

“As only one of two people left who could become President, why wouldn’t the FBI or Department of 'Justice' have told me that they were secretly investigating Paul Manafort (on charges that were 10 years old and had been previously dropped) during my campaign?” Trump asked in a tweet.
He added that Manafort “came into the campaign very late and was with us for a short period of time,” but said the campaign “should have been told that Comey and the boys were doing a number on him, and he wouldn’t have been hired!”


As to Cohen, he had already been on the FBI's radar for quite some time ... thanks to his shady Ukrainian in-laws.
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These nefarious people around Trump are guilty criminals.
 
Fishking said:
Nothing in particular. Put anyone in D.C. under the same microscope and you'll find as much. The biggest fish caught, Manafort, was a high level political operative for decades and has been involved in multiple admins.
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Baloney.
 
eohrnberger said:
Good. Need to root out people who use abuse government power and use government agencies for their political power and political advantage.

The FISA warrant based on the Steele dossier was a fraud perpetrated on the FISA court.
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Many have suspected the Mueller probe would drag in Hillary and CO. Now we'll see.
 
WCH said:
Many have suspected the Mueller probe would drag in Hillary and CO. Now we'll see.
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By "many" you mean the far right wing.
 
WCH said:
Many have suspected the Mueller probe would drag in Hillary and CO. Now we'll see.
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Sure, one can hope.

But since the focus of Mueller's investigation was Trump / Russian collusion to throw the election, and not DNC and / or Hillary's many contacts with the Russians, which does in fact exist and some of which are questionable on that same level, but I rather doubt it.
 
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