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Pocahontas

Sampson Simpson said:
Why can't all you childish, idiotic right winger who can't make any arguments and all you can respond to is dumb name calling just go away. Go crawl under your rocks

Anyway, reparations are stupid. And given the dishonesty of right wingers I don't even believe she said it. The OP didn't even cite anything. As is typical, righties can't argue the facts they have to argue against made up things
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Irony alert.
 
daeler said:
Who are you calling Pocahontas? If it isn't a person who is actually named that maybe you want to delete this thread.
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I think he meant Fauxcohantas.

#LAFFRIOT
 
OrphanSlug said:
For one, she is not going to go away. And all she is really doing is applying an existing series of checkboxes to obtain support, even though the rest of us know reparations for slavery is opening up a fiscal Pandora's Box.
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Not only that but we natives have a little something to say about who was here first and we're gong to want our land back. This woman is pure idiot.
 
noonereal said:
She is an idiot as is Beto.

Gillibrand is a phony as is Amy.

The Dems have lots of BAD candidates.
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AGREE....But...
Hush now....Leftist regressive Loons think they have something special going on....Let them keep going...and flapping their panicky mouths...about how great socialism is...etc...etc......:


"Americans" know this already....and are smiling:)
 
augustus said:
Not only that but we natives have a little something to say about who was here first and we're gong to want our land back. This woman is pure idiot.
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Who do you think are the natives per chance?
 
Might want to compare this instance to ther times that reparations have been paid to properly gauge the reasonableness of the suggestion that descendants of slaves are given reparations by the government. If i recall correctly no reparations have been paid to this day.
 
noonereal said:
Cray Joe.

As of now, I could see me also supporting Booker and Kamala but I need to know more about these 2.

I saw Booker, Gillibrand and Warren last night, interviewed or at their town hall.

I was very pleasantly surprised by Booker and rather taken back by the others.
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Kamala has a rather bad track record as prosecutor. Terrorize families into sending their kids to school, check... send rich criminals to jail? Haaaaa nope!
 
LastResort20 said:
Pocahontas....Pocahontas...Pocahontas...dont be so sensitive and "Angry"...she is a proven FAKE....
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It is kind of like calling a Native American "chief" it is mildly offensive. I could care less about the senator since I think she is an idiot. I just hate the derisive term.
 
OrphanSlug said:
For one, she is not going to go away. And all she is really doing is applying an existing series of checkboxes to obtain support, even though the rest of us know reparations for slavery is opening up a fiscal Pandora's Box.
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Yeah it's a crap show waiting to happen. A more common sense approach is focusing on improving opportunities for the disenfranchised so they can help themselves. Talking about today's equivalent of 40 acres and mule isn't going to carry much weight.
 
She is 1/1024th Indian....she is Fauxcahontas.

If people thought the last election cycle was a **** show...this one is already looking like its going to be a lot of fun.
 
noonereal said:
Today's tweet:



Why can't she just go away?
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I could see reparations to those who were slaves and to their children. Perhaps even grandchildren, but any generation after than, no. Slavery ended 150 plus years ago. There's no one alive today that slavery effected, at least not in the United States.
 
noonereal said:
see the reply to post #4

Thanks!
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Your reply will have a new post number assigned to it:
It's courtesy to give the post number of your actual reply. ( or a link )

So, what post # would that be?
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Why can't all you childish, idiotic right winger who can't make any arguments and all you can respond to is dumb name calling just go away. Go crawl under your rocks

Anyway, reparations are stupid. And given the dishonesty of right wingers I don't even believe she said it. The OP didn't even cite anything. As is typical, righties can't argue the facts they have to argue against made up things
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She actually stated that it was time to have a "national conversation about reparations" which Fox News translated to "Elizabeth Warren gives full throated support to reparations."

So as usual, depending on whether or not they rely on Fox News, posters here will have trouble discussing this topic honestly.

She did a rather good town hall last night, answering questions fully, providing lots of policy ideas, and demonstrating a command of facts. She's a rather impressive figure, no surprise the right will need to bring her down with whatever dirty trick they can pull....which right now seems to be repeating the name calling of the president.
 
noonereal said:
Way wrong. Way way wrong.
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If they have a problem after 7 generations and 154 years, a check for a couple of hundred or even a couple of thousand of dollars isn't going to solve that problem. That is like giving a man a fish expecting it to last a lifetime and solve all that's man's problem. Teaching the man to fish would be a better solution.

It's like any other race, those who make good decisions and strive to improve themselves, take responsibility for themselves usually do. Those who wait for the fish to be handed to them usually don't. There isn't anyone alive responsible for slavery in America today.

Now you could find people alive and well in Niger and Mauritania who were responsible for slavery there as those two countries didn't make slavery illegal until 2003 and 2007 respectively.
 
Perotista said:
If they have a problem after 7 generations and 154 years, a check for a couple of hundred or even a couple of thousand of dollars isn't going to solve that problem.
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This I agree with and I do not believe in a one time cash payment as a reparation.


That is like giving a man a fish expecting it to last a lifetime and solve all that's man's problem. Teaching the man to fish would be a better solution.

It's like any other race, those who make good decisions and strive to improve themselves, take responsibility for themselves usually do. Those who wait for the fish to be handed to them usually don't. There isn't anyone alive responsible for slavery in America today.

Now you could find people alive and well in Niger and Mauritania who were responsible for slavery there as those two countries didn't make slavery illegal until 2003 and 2007 respectively.
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This has nothing to do with fish.

The bolded statement tells me you do not understand the issues at play in the black experience.

That is a big part of the problem, good folks like you honestly do not understand.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Why can't all you childish, idiotic right winger who can't make any arguments and all you can respond to is dumb name calling just go away. Go crawl under your rocks

Anyway, reparations are stupid. And given the dishonesty of right wingers I don't even believe she said it. The OP didn't even cite anything. As is typical, righties can't argue the facts they have to argue against made up things
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It's a fact. Warren and other Democrats are serious about this. Try google.

I think it's fair to pay reparations to every group that has experienced discrimination. That would include all women, all old people, every ethnic minority, as well as all blacks and native Americans. So basically everyone would get reparations except the small minority that came here on the Mayflower.
 
vanceen said:
I guess a war with over a half million dead was not "tackling it head on".
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It's about revenge. The Leftists believe Southerners haven't been sufficiently punished.

The notion is that a certain group will cough up the money, but that'll never happen.

The people who expect to be the recipients of the cash infusion don't give a **** where the money comes from.
 
Good4Nothin said:
It's a fact. Warren and other Democrats are serious about this. Try google.

I think it's fair to pay reparations to every group that has experienced discrimination. That would include all women, all old people, every ethnic minority, as well as all blacks and native Americans. So basically everyone would get reparations except the small minority that came here on the Mayflower.
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The folks who came here on the Mayflower were discriminated against by the indians.
 
noonereal said:
This I agree with and I do not believe in a one time cash payment as a reparation.





This has nothing to do with fish.

The bolded statement tells me you do not understand the issues at play in the black experience.

That is a big part of the problem, good folks like you honestly do not understand.
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I've seen tons of blacks be very successful in the Military. Both active duty and as working for the military as civilians. You can name any other race and the above still applies. I seen many discharged because they refused to become part of the team or just didn't try to improve themselves. Again, this pertains to all races.

Those who make bad decisions in life, fail to apply themselves, regardless of race aren't going to amount to much. Those who study hard, learn in school, work hard usually amount to something. Those who do not, usually don't. But each one has to make their own decisions, do I study or do I cut class or cut up in class or whatever. Do I run around with this bunch which is always doing the wrong things or do I stay away from them and try to better myself. Most folks regardless of race will rise to the level the apply themselves to achieve or sink to the bottom if they don't.

There will always be obstacles in one's path. Some will have more than others and a very few will have that silver spoon in their mouth. Some will work hard and find a way to either alleviate those obstacles or find a way to jump over or go around them. Others will sit down in front of the obstacle saying they had enough. Life is too rough. Race doesn't matter.

Some will blame the obstacles for their failures and do nothing to overcome them, others will try overcome them and those who try, try hard enough and long enough usually overcomes. such is life.
 
Perotista said:
I've seen tons of blacks be very successful in the Military. Both active duty and as working for the military as civilians. You can name any other race and the above still applies. I seen many discharged because they refused to become part of the team or just didn't try to improve themselves. Again, this pertains to all races.

Those who make bad decisions in life, fail to apply themselves, regardless of race aren't going to amount to much. Those who study hard, learn in school, work hard usually amount to something. Those who do not, usually don't. But each one has to make their own decisions, do I study or do I cut class or cut up in class or whatever. Do I run around with this bunch which is always doing the wrong things or do I stay away from them and try to better myself. Most folks regardless of race will rise to the level the apply themselves to achieve or sink to the bottom if they don't.

There will always be obstacles in one's path. Some will have more than others and a very few will have that silver spoon in their mouth. Some will work hard and find a way to either alleviate those obstacles or find a way to jump over or go around them. Others will sit down in front of the obstacle saying they had enough. Life is too rough. Race doesn't matter.

Some will blame the obstacles for their failures and do nothing to overcome them, others will try overcome them and those who try, try hard enough and long enough usually overcomes. such is life.
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If you come from a culture of thieves, you become a thief. You value the attributes that make you a good thief. You learn. work at, being a great thief.

To use a baseball analogy, in the great baseball game of life, a disproportionate number of blacks are born at home plate with 2 strikes while most Americans are born on first base.


As to the military. I have seen many "losers" in life, forced to join the military and then thrive their. Why? Structure. All there needs are cared for by the socialist mechanisms of military life. It only goes to my point (in other threads over time) that each of us is unique and part of that uniqueness is out upbringing. Well meaning, very loving and dutiful parents in tough areas can often simply not know how to guide their kids to first base as they have been stuck at the plate their entire lives.

BTW, lose the "work hard" line. That is a load of crap.

Let me sum it up. If you are born at home plate and your parents are still at bat themselves, it is very hard to get ahead.

If you are born at home base and your parent have already been called out or worse, they have already been throw out of the game, the odds you will ever make it first are not very good.

A disproportionate amount of people who are slave descends are born at home plate with a strike. This as a direct result of slavery and the discrimination that followed and to a much smaller degree continues.

Until the average decedent of slaves, on average, start life on first base as do the majority, we have work to do.

Bear in mind, people go through obstacles in the ways they learn to. Like selling drugs at on the street corner while mom is driving the suburban kid to soccer practice. Who is more virtuous? The kid who's has no dad, mom is on crack and brother in jail so at 15 he goes to work in the system he was born into? Or the suburban kid bickering with mom over what to put in the car DVD player as they drive you soccer?

We have this idea that successful people are hard working and that poor people are lazy. My life has made VERY clear that this is totally BS.
 
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