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It is time for leftists to provide evidence that Trump is racist

Number 1:
Racists know he's racist. Why the hell anyone else doesn't just shows one to be less astute even than racists.​

Number 2:
Trump has yet to (1) execrate any racist's expressed bigotry and/or (2) spurn racists' approbation.​


Number3:
Given the above, it's irrelevant whether Trump is or isn't a racist. What does and will forever will matter is that he avails racist tropes and rhetorical symbology to abet his political ends, and that matters because some share of his supporters are racist and therefore construe him as "one of them."

The dreams embraced by many of Trump’s followers extend most directly and exclusively to white people. Indeed, one can temporalize Trump’s nostalgia can be temporalized to the "mid-twentieth century, and to the industrial economy and welfare statism of that era," and a normatively nostalgic bid to return existentially to that era. Trump, unlike the left, grasped the intensity of this smoldering white racism; moreover and potently, Trump’s speech and gestures spoke clearly to heretofore latent yen for "white male resurrection."

With the benefit of hindsight, many more folks see that now, but Trump’s political style from its outset signaled all along to racists a derogated representation of depraved inner cities filled with black and brown people -- locations reviled as places abnegated of law and order, living hells whites forswore inhabiting, forgotten sites needing government intervention. So Trump stoked a revived white nationalism while tacitly condoning its racist content. The threat offered was market marginalization of whites by cheap minority black/brown labor and globalization's multicultural face. Rank and file of Trump followers "turned out to be more concerned about race and immigration than it was about debt and fiscal constraint."

Blacks, however, experienced Trump’s speech and semiotics as a collective Gehenna. Black women, for example, did not dismiss "***** grabbing" as a minor transgression: the black electorate understood the lawlessness that Trump claimed for himself as part of a long history of white privilege and hypocrisy, exacerbated by Clinton’s record which demonstrated its own sort of lawlessness regarding Black incarceration. The litany of Black lives lost reflects a current racism seen most clearly in the instigating offenses' bagatelle:
-- a broken taillight leads to a jail room death;
-- selling loose cigarettes on the street elicits a fatal chokehold;
-- wearing a hooded sweatshirt in a suburban neighborhood provokes an excessive and ultimately lethal response.
These events are "biopower and the violent state" in "color and high definition." Trump’s calls to "Make America Great Again" by returning to an intensified law and order timeframe of Jim Crow racism is passed off as nostalgia, but Trump’s dog-whistle politics beguiled few Blacks; they heard him loud and clear.




SNL portrayed this divided ability to hear in Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle's skit, "Election Night." Delusional white liberals glued to the television anticipate a "historic night" bringing a new female president to the White House. As the election results roll in, however, they inch toward an epiphany, if only barely: "America is racist." At the end of the skit, one of the white viewers says, "This is the worst thing America has ever done," setting Chappelle and Rock into a guffaw.

The form of racism in Trump’s America poignantly reminds us of racism's past. If anyone ever doubted the content of Donald Trump’s message, we now have its materialization in the nomination of Jeff Sessions as attorney general, confirmed by the Republican Senate on February 8, 2017, in a straight-party vote. Sessions' multitude of unprosecuted episodes of racist violence during his tenure as AL Atty Gen. in the 1970s and 1980s brings indubitable clarity to Trump’s manufactured ambiguity. Trump chose a man deeply implicated in Jim Crow sins of omission, a man who in the 1990s resurrected prisoner chain gangs in AL and stood against efforts to reform the criminal justice system. We do not need an analysis of style to know why this man was chosen. Trump’s choice of Jeff Sessions as America’s top law and order administrator, eagerly supported by Republicans, resurrected the racism of the Civil Rights era and commences a new chapter in our country’s battle with racial inequality, one that requires our vigilance and active resistance.

So is Trump a racist? He presidentially surrounds himself with, succors and surfeits racists; thus whether he is doesn't matter.​
 
At least she denounced his "support" unlike Trump who just unconvincingly denied knowing who he was. But no I don't think I would vote for her either.

lol, he did say he disavowed him.

So by your metric, that is "proof" she is a racist, right?
 
The point is that Trump has done nothing racist, yet the left lies about him

Well, his entire political career has been centered around race, but besides that? Sure, nothing else...:roll:
 
Well, his entire political career has been centered around race, but besides that? Sure, nothing else...:roll:

As Jonathan Chait wrote:
t is long past the point where Trump’s behavior can be explained [as anything but racist]. And the Republicans’ refusal to acknowledge Trump’s bigotry fatally undermines any presumption of good faith.


To Chait's point:
The above doesn't even include his failure to denounce overtly racist groups/persons. Yes, Trump is a racist!
 
Well, his entire political career has been centered around race, but besides that? Sure, nothing else...:roll:

Because the media and left shaped it that way.
 
That's interesting, David duke has thrown his endorsement behind a Democrat for POTUS in 2020. Will your stance now change? He also called Omar "the most important person in Congress"

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard gets 2020 endorsement from David Duke
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard gets 2020 endorsement from David Duke...
Feb 5, 2019 - Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has apparently gotten an endorsement she said she can do without — from former KKK leader David Duke. ... “Tulsi Gabbard for President,” it blares, along with the tagline: “Finally a candidate who will actually put America ...

What does Israel have to do with race?
 
My standard of proof would actually be for someone to be racist.


You really don't understand. Asking anyone on the left for evidence PROVES you are a fascist, Nazi, Islamophobe, patriarch and a running dog of Imperialism. You should have learnt by now that anything said by a leftist is the TRUTH and is not open to challenge or debate. Ever.
 
As Jonathan Chait wrote:
t is long past the point where Trump’s behavior can be explained [as anything but racist]. And the Republicans’ refusal to acknowledge Trump’s bigotry fatally undermines any presumption of good faith.


To Chait's point:
The above doesn't even include his failure to denounce overtly racist groups/persons. Yes, Trump is a racist!


One thing worse than a tedious load of nonsense is a l o n g tedious load of nonsense.
 
And tell us how we would recognize racism if we saw it. And don't say "it would be racism."


One indicator that a person is 'racist' is repeated reference that false concept 'race'. It indicates a foolish belief that HS is divided into 'races', a Victorian idea comprehensive trashed by post DNA genetics.
 
Well, his entire political career has been centered around race, but besides that? Sure, nothing else...:roll:

I am really not sure which is semantically worse...spending an entire life as a overt practicing bigot which is frankly indisputable in Trump's case or centering his political career around race which is harder to pin down at least in direct argument. I am not even sure what the argument buys anybody.

Honestly, the only dif to me in somebody that practices racial bigotry as opposed to cultural bigotry or religious bigotry is that a racial bigot immediately makes more enemies in an instant than a cultural bigot or a religious bigot does. In other words it is politically more expedient to be a cultural or religious bigot in this country than it is to be a racial bigot.

Generally speaking its easier to pick smaller targets by group if one picks his targets for religious or cultural bigotry carefully. The impact on the targeted community is the same, the victimization narrative used by the cultural or religious bigot is the same, the hate speech can be the same and it is pretty easy to dog whistle race if one wants to just move a little farther into that territory while being an overt cultural or religious bigot. Both the cultural or religious group targeted for the bigotry and those intended to be drawn to the bigotry are effected in exactly the same way as if the targets were racial targets.

Its just as impactful to those Trump is trying to attract to him and just as hurtful to those he is targeting when he calls out Mexicans, an entire country's people as rapists and killers. That might be dangerous territory to breach if he was standing in Mexico. How many Mexicans vote in US elections? What kind of risk does Fat Donald take targeting Mexicans in this country?

Overt racial bigots in this country tend to be people that think they can afford to be overt racial bigots. They don't feel the need to dog whistle racial bigotry and they don't give a damn what anybody thinks about it.

I have said this many times in these forums. The most absurd notion of Trumpian supporter notions is that Donald was/is the anti-politician. Donald is always marketing himself in some way shape or form which makes him the uber-politician, not the anti-politician. In other words in trying to parse racial bigotry from cultural or religious bigotry all we are really doing is defining political realities for bigots. I fail to see any meaningful difference beyond that.
 
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As Jonathan Chait wrote:
t is long past the point where Trump’s behavior can be explained [as anything but racist]. And the Republicans’ refusal to acknowledge Trump’s bigotry fatally undermines any presumption of good faith.


To Chait's point:


  • Trump is a racist because his democrat father was accused of being racist? Do leftists even know how stupid that logic is?
 
As Jonathan Chait wrote:
t is long past the point where Trump’s behavior can be [exculpated]. And the [GOP-ers'] refusal to [cede] Trump’s bigotry fatally undermines any presumption of [probity].


To Chait's point:
The above doesn't even include his failure to denounce overtly racist groups/persons. Yes, Trump is a racist!

One thing worse than a tedious load of nonsense is a l o n g tedious load of nonsense.

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...And yet you provide no credible and sound/cogent refutation of my editorial remarks or historically factual citations....


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Trump is a racist because his democrat father was accused of being racist? Do leftists even know how stupid that logic is?

Screw folks on the left or right....Do you always, as you have above, avail yourself of contextomy to make a point?
 
One indicator that a person is 'racist' is repeated reference that false concept 'race'. It indicates a foolish belief that HS is divided into 'races', a Victorian idea comprehensive trashed by post DNA genetics.

Do you want to try that again in English?
 
Look, I know we've disagreed on this point and you had a jab at me before on it, I get it.

But the real issue with Trump is, he hasn't been consistent his whole life, besides being generally an asshole, the sense I get from him when he was somewhat younger, I dunno, I don't get the sense he was.

So either he willfully became racist or he somewhere along the line completely lost his marbles and has been consistently tied to a lack of reality since the birther days and the racialist things he's said and done have been one of the byproducts of that mental instability.

Whatever the case, Howard Deans campaign for President was ended because of an awkward sound that came out of his mouth... 1/1000th of the things Trump has said should be career ending in any rational world... Because there's plenty of what he said that was, definitely racist... But, then again there's Trump supporters.

I think we can agree on that much.

My post came across more strongly than it was intended to. But so long as we're here...

I don't know any non-bigoted people who do and say bigoted things with any degree of frequency. A non-bigot wouldn't do or say bigoted things even for the amusement or satisfaction of others, and when a non-bigot does say or do something that comes across as bigoted, he feels awful about it and try to correct the mistake. Also, Trump has the ultimate prerequisite for bigotry: a massive victim complex.

Finally, he does have a history of discriminating against black people in his housing complexes years ago.

All the ingredients for bigotry are there and all the elements of bigotry have been expressed. At a certain point I really just don't need to concern myself with what's going on in his heart.
 
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Prove it.

There's no doubt that I am still waiting for you you prove your claim. Is that what you mean? So far nothing but deflection from you. You do know that asking for proof of a negative automatically identifies you as the loser in the discussion.
 
There's no doubt that I am still waiting for you you prove your claim. Is that what you mean? So far nothing but deflection from you. You do know that asking for proof of a negative automatically identifies you as the loser in the discussion.

And what is your evidence?
 
The most quoted claims are easily refutable. I can provide transcripts which most leftists on CNN are to lazy to read.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO

He led the racist Birther Movement. /thread.
 
That is the entire basis of "Trump is a racist", the leftist media invented it, ran with it, and even now still holds on to that as a hope that they can destroy capitalism and America

This idea that corporate media wants to "destroy capitalism" is the most patently stupid thing I've ever read.
 
I'm not sure why Trump supporters mind all this racist talk. The more outlandish crap that is spewed about Trump, the more people question the shady stuff that is true.

Personally, I'd rather see reality set in because I want the dude out of office real fast.

TDS is Trump's best friend next year.
 
I'm not sure why Trump supporters mind all this racist talk. The more outlandish crap that is spewed about Trump, the more people question the shady stuff that is true.

Personally, I'd rather see reality set in because I want the dude out of office real fast.

TDS is Trump's best friend next year.

Most of the stuff is about Trump's cultural and religious bigotry which is undeniable. So you boys can keep throwing racial bigotry out there and calling the whole thing a media creation all you want. Its not flying. One is as bad as the other.

Besides, its so easy to be a cultural or religious bigot and dog whistle racial bigotry especially to such a willing and appreciative audience.
 
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