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"I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change"

noonereal said:
After 49 killed in mass shootings at 2 New Zealand mosques, prime minister vows, '''our gun laws will change''' - ABC News

Prime Minister of New Zealand says, "I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change."

New Zealand has extremely lax gun laws, like here.

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What does Trump say after our almost daily gun slaughters?
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The only places "daily gun slaughters" are happening in the US are DEMOCRAT **** HOLES, with strict gun laws.

OBAMA/HILLARY VOTERS...like CHICAGO, St.LOUIS, BALTIMORE, NEW ORLEANS, ETC., ETC.....
 
Grokmaster said:
The only places "daily gun slaughters" are happening in the US are DEMOCRAT **** HOLES, with strict gun laws.

OBAMA/HILLARY VOTERS...like CHICAGO, St.LOUIS, BALTIMORE, NEW ORLEANS, ETC., ETC.....
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"I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change" is the correct answer.
 
noonereal said:
"I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change" is the correct answer.
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Only to idiots, unless you are talking about disarming DEMOCRAT VOTERS/SUPPORTERS, in our URBAN AREAS, and making sure that they stay disarmed; that will cut the US murder rate by 80%, right off the bat....
 
Grokmaster said:
Only to idiots, unless you are talking about disarming DEMOCRAT VOTERS/SUPPORTERS, in our URBAN AREAS, and making sure that they stay disarmed; that will cut the US murder rate by 80%, right off the bat....
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Wow dude, you are always good for the most ignorant comment of the day, but you deserve a trophy that regurgitation of stupidity!!!!
 
Guess who finally stopped the shooting at the 2nd mosque? A god damn hero who picked up an ATM machine and used it as a shield and ran at the shooter. THAT ALONE scared him into running when he found someone he couldnt kill.
 
More dancing on the graves of the dead to further increase government power by taking away the ability of people to protect themselves from people with guns.

I don't know why people keep doing this since it makes absolutely zero logic, and it really should be embarrassing to use dead people like that.
 
noonereal said:
"I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change" is the correct answer.
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Too bad the kiwis don't have an equivalent to the 2nd Amendment.

They're going to have their rights stripped away and there won't be a damn thing they can do about it.
 
We don' need any more gun laws.Wear a bulletproof vest to church.
 
Grokmaster said:
The only places "daily gun slaughters" are happening in the US are DEMOCRAT **** HOLES, with strict gun laws.

OBAMA/HILLARY VOTERS...like CHICAGO, St.LOUIS, BALTIMORE, NEW ORLEANS, ETC., ETC.....
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Anywhere in the continental US that has "strict" guns laws is next door to a place with lax gun laws to undermine them. There are no Obama/Hillary voters, the rest of the world has moved on.
 
noonereal said:
After 49 killed in mass shootings at 2 New Zealand mosques, prime minister vows, '''our gun laws will change''' - ABC News

Prime Minister of New Zealand says, "I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change."

New Zealand has extremely lax gun laws, like here.

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What does Trump say after our almost daily gun slaughters?
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Sadiq-Khan-Terrorism-Is-Part-And-Parcel-Of-Living-In-Big-City.jpg

"It's just part and parcel bro."

Do you have something against large cities?
Are you like a hatful bigot or something bro?
 
noonereal said:
After 49 killed in mass shootings at 2 New Zealand mosques, prime minister vows, '''our gun laws will change''' - ABC News

Prime Minister of New Zealand says, "I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change."

New Zealand has extremely lax gun laws, like here.

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What does Trump say after our almost daily gun slaughters?
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He's not stupid enough to speak on the subject right now and I really hope no one else is either. The shooter wrote in his meme-ifesto that he used the weapons he did, in order to sway liberal opinion and discourse on the 2nd debate. The you even read the assholes manifesto?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Anywhere in the continental US that has "strict" guns laws is next door to a place with lax gun laws to undermine them. There are no Obama/Hillary voters, the rest of the world has moved on.
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And amazingly enough, those right next door lax gun law places don't seem to have as much of a problem.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Anywhere in the continental US that has "strict" guns laws is next door to a place with lax gun laws to undermine them. There are no Obama/Hillary voters, the rest of the world has moved on.
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You can always build a wall between CA and TX.
 
noonereal said:
After 49 killed in mass shootings at 2 New Zealand mosques, prime minister vows, '''our gun laws will change''' - ABC News

Prime Minister of New Zealand says, "I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change."

New Zealand has extremely lax gun laws, like here.

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What does Trump say after our almost daily gun slaughters?
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LOL… Can you gun haters remember a consistent story, or are you just hoping to skate on shameless flip-flopping hypocrisy? For years this forum's gun control lobby has used Australia, New Zealand, Europe, etc. as examples of why their strict gun control laws, in New Zealand for example, produced crime rates are much lower than the US.

Then when current events make a mockery of that "conventional wisdom", some embarrassing drone will claim that New Zealand has little gun control, "just like here" (here presumably being the US).

FYI New Zealand already has significantly stricter gun control laws than the US. So much so its nearly impossible for the average to own and keep a handgun.

Among the notable differences:

-You have to purchase an arms license (which requires a photo ID) and it must be renewed on a periodic basis.
-An arms officer visits your home and makes sure you have a secure place to house the guns and ammo in locked and separate locations.
-All people in the household have to be interviewed to insure they approve of storage of guns.
-To purchase pistols you have to belong to an authorized pistol club, you must shoot with the club 12 times in six months, and take part in their activity. You don't own the gun, and it is held by the club armorer.
-After six months the club may recommend to police you have a "B" endorsement, which requires more references, interviews with family and background checks.
-Then you may be allowed to own a pistol kept in a gun safe at home. Each "B" endorsement requires $200.00.
-Then you can purchase it, getting more approvals from the gun club and the police.
-You may only transport a pistol to a gun range or gunsmith.
-You have to shoot 12 times every year to maintain your pistol license.
-You may own a military style assault rifle but requires a good reason acceptable to the police, and proof of why a sporting or other rifle would not suffice.
-Semi-automatics (centerfire) of any type are limited to 7 rounds.

So please, don't tell us that New Zealand is just like here. THAT is a SHAMELESS lie, either by you or from the lie generating media.

There does not seem to be a bottom to anti-gun partisan hypocrisy on this issue.
 
maxparrish said:
LOL… Can you gun haters remember a consistent story, or are you just hoping to skate on shameless flip-flopping hypocrisy? For years this forum's gun control lobby has used Australia, New Zealand, Europe, etc. as examples of why their strict gun control laws, in New Zealand for example, produced crime rates are much lower than the US.

Then when current events make a mockery of that "conventional wisdom", some embarrassing drone will claim that New Zealand has little gun control, "just like here" (here presumably being the US).

FYI New Zealand already has significantly stricter gun control laws than the US. So much so its nearly impossible for the average to own and keep a handgun.

Among the notable differences:

-You have to purchase an arms license (which requires a photo ID) and it must be renewed on a periodic basis.
-An arms officer visits your home and makes sure you have a secure place to house the guns and ammo in locked and separate locations.
-All people in the household have to be interviewed to insure they approve of storage of guns.
-To purchase pistols you have to belong to an authorized pistol club, you must shoot with the club 12 times in six months, and take part in their activity. You don't own the gun, and it is held by the club armorer.
-After six months the club may recommend to police you have a "B" endorsement, which requires more references, interviews with family and background checks.
-Then you may be allowed to own a pistol kept in a gun safe at home. Each "B" endorsement requires $200.00.
-Then you can purchase it, getting more approvals from the gun club and the police.
-You may only transport a pistol to a gun range or gunsmith.
-You have to shoot 12 times every year to maintain your pistol license.
-You may own a military style assault rifle but requires a good reason acceptable to the police, and proof of why a sporting or other rifle would not suffice.
-Semi-automatics (centerfire) of any type are limited to 7 rounds.

So please, don't tell us that New Zealand is just like here. THAT is a SHAMELESS lie, either by you or from the lie generating media.

There does not seem to be a bottom to anti-gun partisan hypocrisy on this issue.
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Clearly their laws are not strong enough, on this we can all agree.
 
Barnacle said:
Rahm, get your **** together and clean up the mess in your town.
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Gun laws may change here also, will not change a thing when it comes to me protecting my family and property, that right is not given to me by the Constitution, it only reaffirms my right. I Know that I am not alone in that thought and will not comply with anyone attempting to remove my rights, period.
 
noonereal said:
Clearly their laws are not strong enough, on this we can all agree.
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We hardly agree. If left up to me, he wouldn't have made it past the doorman before being met with a hail of bullets from the people in the first mosque. Then instead of headlines which read "49 dead" there would be "Armed hero saves the day".
 
noonereal said:
Clearly their laws are not strong enough, on this we can all agree.
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We only agree if you concede that their laws on immigration need to be stronger - but for this Australian immigrant (or the immigration of Muslims) this would not have happened.

On the other hand, this tragedy is confirmation that "strong" gun laws have been, and will be, irrelevant to stopping those determined to commit a mass killing. Increasing the stringency of gun laws, like all regulations, are a case of diminishing returns. The pervasive effects on innocent gun owners (or aspiring owners) increase disproportionally to the diminishing return on effectiveness.

New Zealands hand gun regulation, for example, is absurdly overboard. There is NO reason to make individuals, who pass background checks and police vetting, to constantly travel to a gun club range, 12 times a year. Nor is there any good reason to deny handgun shooters the opportunity to target practice on private land or to hunt with their pistols. AND 200 dollars per certification is ridiculous.

The shooter, in this case, decided that what he could use to kill many was optional - fire, explosives, poison, and firearms. It's hard to see how this determined Aussie could be stopped by more regulations - especially given that NZ long shorelines and low population are ideal for gun smuggling.
 
maxparrish said:
We only agree if you concede that their laws on immigration need to be stronger - but for this Australian immigrant (or the immigration of Muslims) this would not have happened.
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NZ's economy demands a steady stream of transient drug addled immigrant workers, or the whole damn island would capsize.
 
Bilgewater said:
NZ's economy demands a steady stream of transient drug addled immigrant workers, or the whole damn island would capsize.
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That wasn't my impression in my six week stay in NZ. My impression was that Auckland and the surrounding area was saturated with Muslim and Hindi immigrants, along with resident Maori. I found it to be a little strange, clean but also run-down and cluttered with nearly empty strip mall immigrant owned outlets. I got out of that area (near the airport) and once I arrived in Hamilton, the country was to my liking. I crossed over the central range and enjoyed Napier, one of my favorite towns. I drove south, through Palmerston North (a dead quiet and oddly vacant looking place...boring?).

I liked Wellington, loved Nelson, and liked Dunedin. The wine country was less interesting than I hoped, but I enjoyed most (but not all) of my visits to small towns. I particularly enjoyed taverns and bars, and wistful glances at pretty young women.

Since my visit, I've sought to characterize kiwi's but found it difficult; they were friendly, but reserved...a bit thin skinned...not especially gifted in humor (although sufficiently gregarious when drunk). They are much more rule conscious than Americans (and I am told more than Aussies), horribly aggressive and rude drivers, and overly desirous of telling Americans what is wrong with Americans.

On the other hand, they keep their children under control, are very polite, and most are money conscious and desirous of making sure that I was not ripped off by others. The nicest people I met were those that repaired my van tire, changed my blown tire, refueled my van when I errored two miles from town, and a potter I visited. The least nice were those that misunderstood my inquiries as being judgmental, and had a bitter edginess and off-standing ness in bars.

And my final impression was that NZ has changed quite a bit since my friends visit in the 1980s, where the people were far more welcoming, friendly, and unbelievably generous to travelers. But one would expect that the advent of tourism and immigration would have its dislocative effects.
 
maxparrish said:
That wasn't my impression in my six week stay in NZ. My impression was that Auckland and the surrounding area was saturated with Muslim and Hindi immigrants, along with resident Maori. I found it to be a little strange, clean but also run-down and cluttered with nearly empty strip mall immigrant owned outlets. I got out of that area (near the airport) and once I arrived in Hamilton, the country was to my liking. I crossed over the central range and enjoyed Napier, one of my favorite towns. I drove south, through Palmerston North (a dead quiet and oddly vacant looking place...boring?).

I liked Wellington, loved Nelson, and liked Dunedin. The wine country was less interesting than I hoped, but I enjoyed most (but not all) of my visits to small towns. I particularly enjoyed taverns and bars, and wistful glances at pretty young women.

Since my visit, I've sought to characterize kiwi's but found it difficult; they were friendly, but reserved...a bit thin skinned...not especially gifted in humor (although sufficiently gregarious when drunk). They are much more rule conscious than Americans (and I am told more than Aussies), horribly aggressive and rude drivers, and overly desirous of telling Americans what is wrong with Americans.

On the other hand, they keep their children under control, are very polite, and most are money conscious and desirous of making sure that I was not ripped off by others. The nicest people I met were those that repaired my van tire, changed my blown tire, refueled my van when I errored two miles from town, and a potter I visited. The least nice were those that misunderstood my inquiries as being judgmental, and had a bitter edginess and off-standing ness in bars.

And my final impression was that NZ has changed quite a bit since my friends visit in the 1980s, where the people were far more welcoming, friendly, and unbelievably generous to travelers. But one would expect that the advent of tourism and immigration would have its dislocative effects.
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The agriculture sector relies heavily upon one year work visas obtained primarily by millennials straight out of college and hoping for a year of sowing a few wild oats before going back to live in mom's basement. Grapes don't pick themselves, so they rely upon transients working at minimum wage to do the work.

Yes, there is a large population of actual immigrants from islamic countries, but their economy would die if they relied upon immigrants to prop it up. It's all transient labor supplied by guys and gals almost exactly like this nutbag shooter.
 
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gulfman said:
We don' need any more gun laws.Wear a bulletproof vest to church.
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Having a firearm is a much better option. All liberal gun laws do is disarm victims
 
noonereal said:
Clearly their laws are not strong enough, on this we can all agree.
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No we cannot agree with such a moronic conclusion. And when a poster calls firearms "penis extensions", we question his motivations for supporting more gun restrictions.
 
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