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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    We can no longer to afford to allow hateful bile to be transmitted over the internet via social media and hate sites. We need to take action right now to deal with this. Every second we allow our internet to be conduits of hate we get closer to the next hate slaughter, and we have a lot more guns and bigots than New Zealand. Start fining people who say bigoted things on Twitter and shut down sewers like 4chan and Stormfront.

    What's more important: Lives or following our antiquated, centuries-old "kawnstitution"?
    Going after one avenue of information exchange does nothing for the underline problem, people learning hate and the real issue that presents. We can talk about the "kawnstitution" and all your desires to get around it, but that avoids the larger issue for you to declare a very hollow victory.

    The reality is before the internet there were plenty of other means to spread messages of hate resulting in loss of life. All the internet did was accelerate the means to spread those messages and allow a small bit of anonymity with engaging in it.

    Your challenge to prevent loss of life is dealing with helping people unlearn the things they do.

    Consistently we ignore the principle of social faults generally being solved with evolution and education, and default with your thinking on censorship and "taking action to deal with this" and generally speaking that means punishing everyone in hopes those who do hate quit spreading their messages. And consistently you are wrong in appealing to governance to get around the ole "kawnstitution" until you quit seeing and hearing what you do not want to see and hear.

    Hint... the more you punish and censor, the worse it will get. And result in loss of life anyway. Historically and socially proven... consistently.
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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    We can no longer to afford to allow hateful bile to be transmitted over the internet via social media and hate sites. We need to take action right now to deal with this. Every second we allow our internet to be conduits of hate we get closer to the next hate slaughter, and we have a lot more guns and bigots than New Zealand. Start fining people who say bigoted things on Twitter and shut down sewers like 4chan and Stormfront.

    What's more important: Lives or following our antiquated, centuries-old "kawnstitution"?
    You cannot silence speech, just ask china and its thriving VPN market. The way to battle hate is they education and other speech.

    Also it is easy to divide them on the extreme but finding where to draw the exact line in the grey area is much harder and you are grossly underestimate the problem. Promoting violence or chaos is already illegal. Anything more is too much. If you need force to silence speech you already lost. Stop thinking like a conservative, your treating the effect rather then the cause and creating an ineffective police state.

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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    We can no longer to afford to allow hateful bile to be transmitted over the internet via social media and hate sites. We need to take action right now to deal with this. Every second we allow our internet to be conduits of hate we get closer to the next hate slaughter, and we have a lot more guns and bigots than New Zealand. Start fining people who say bigoted things on Twitter and shut down sewers like 4chan and Stormfront.

    What's more important: Lives or following our antiquated, centuries-old "kawnstitution"?
    Are you suggesting your posts on DP should be banned?
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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

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    It's hard to do when our president called for a Muslim ban.
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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Not really. It was more a hate of the capitalist pigs or hate of the Jews. It's always hate. Like hate of undocumented immigrants.

    There is no hate for undocumented immigrants, just the call for American law and order when it comes to illegal aliens.
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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Not really. It was more a hate of the capitalist pigs or hate of the Jews. It's always hate. Like hate of undocumented immigrants.
    Do you hate criminals?
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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you hate criminals?
    No, I'm a Christian. I'm commanded to love even my enemies. It's difficult. I don't always succeed.

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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    We can no longer to afford to allow hateful bile to be transmitted over the internet via social media and hate sites. We need to take action right now to deal with this. Every second we allow our internet to be conduits of hate we get closer to the next hate slaughter, and we have a lot more guns and bigots than New Zealand. Start fining people who say bigoted things on Twitter and shut down sewers like 4chan and Stormfront.

    What's more important: Lives or following our antiquated, centuries-old "kawnstitution"?
    So, who defines what is hate speech and what is 1st A rights?

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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    We can no longer to afford to allow hateful bile to be transmitted over the internet via social media and hate sites. We need to take action right now to deal with this. Every second we allow our internet to be conduits of hate we get closer to the next hate slaughter, and we have a lot more guns and bigots than New Zealand. Start fining people who say bigoted things on Twitter and shut down sewers like 4chan and Stormfront.

    What's more important: Lives or following our antiquated, centuries-old "kawnstitution"?
    Be careful what you wish for. Just saying.
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    Re: It's time to crack down on online hate speech

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    We need to take action right now to deal with this.


    Absolutely.

    Facebook, Twitter, and Internet discussion forums are already tightening their posting rules and banning more people.

    Some people hope that the new president will lead a movement to repeal the First Amendment.

    Then the government could close down FOX NEWS, for example.

    In the meanwhile, the government should send a fact-finding mission to Beijing.

    The Chinese have perfected an excellent system of stopping all objectionable posts: Thousands of censors scan the Internet 24/7 and immediately delete unacceptable words, phrases, and sentences.

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