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    Far Right Common with ISIS

    What far-right terror has in common with ISIS


    The increasingly transnational narratives of far right extremists have strong parallels with other forms of global extremism, in particular Islamism. Like ISIS, the Christchurch attacker's ideology claims there are no such thing as innocents in this clash of civilizations between Islam and the West, only combatants. Both worldviews emphasize transnational bonds of brotherhood. While the shooter frames his identity as part of a global white European race, ISIS emphasizes a global Islamic identity in its propaganda, which it uses to perpetuate a form of warped solidarity.

    One area where this ideological relationship is particularly evident is in the Western Balkans region, which the shooter frames in his propaganda as a frontline in a civilizational contest between Europe and the Islamic world. Showing the long view of history feeding into this ethno-nationalist ideology, the weapons used -- as seen in a video of the attack livestreamed on Facebook -- have scrawled upon them references to 14th century Serbian fighters involved in defending against the Ottoman invasion. There was also the name of Frankish warlord Charles Martel, who turned back the Islamic forces of Abdul Rahman at Poitiers in the eighth century -- a figure who has become a resurgent fascist symbol. He also draws on the imagery of the defense of Christendom at Vienna, the furthest point of Ottoman expansion in 1529 by Suleiman the Magnificent. It is no accident that one of the most prominent far right blogs is called "Gates of Vienna."

    Our research has shown uncanny parallels with ISIS propaganda targeting the Western Balkans region. Drawing on the same history, ISIS videos present the region as the "frontier for the Muslims," while unofficial ISIS propaganda has included the Balkans as a "province" in its plans for expansion of its failed "Caliphate." Those borders are based on the frontiers of Islamic conquest under the Ottomans in the 16th century. Such narratives feed into the shooter's perceptions of inevitable conflict between Islam and the West.


    I've called them the American Taliban for years. So, what do we call the globalized version of it? ISIS-White?
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    Re: Far Right Common with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What far-right terror has in common with ISIS






    I've called them the American Taliban for years. So, what do we call the globalized version of it? ISIS-White?
    The Taliban are social conservatives just like Republicans. All the social issues, abortion, gay marriage, prayer in schools, transgender rights are things the Taliban and social conservatives agree about.

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    Editors Note: Milo Comerford is an analyst at the Tony Blair Institute For Global Change. The opinions in this article are those of the author. See more opinion on CNN.com

    So even CNN does not want to stake a claim to this opinion piece!..

    Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
    Stop with the comparisons and trying to make claims about American Taliban crap.
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    Re: Far Right Common with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Editors Note: Milo Comerford is an analyst at the Tony Blair Institute For Global Change. The opinions in this article are those of the author. See more opinion on CNN.com

    So even CNN does not want to stake a claim to this opinion piece!..

    Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
    Stop with the comparisons and trying to make claims about American Taliban crap.
    American Taliban is apt. I don't care if you hate it. Too ****ing bad.
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    Nothing like a shooting to bring out the rhetoric from the leftwing nutjobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    The Taliban are social conservatives just like Republicans. All the social issues, abortion, gay marriage, prayer in schools, transgender rights are things the Taliban and social conservatives agree about.
    This is immoral and irresponsible nonsense, SonOfDaedalus. That is kind of like saying the Taliban wear beards and many social conservatives wear beards, and thus they are identical. When social conservatives start murdering schoolgirls or throwing acid in their faces for wishing to go to school, forcing women to wear non-revealing clothing, and eliminating everyone's right to vote and institute a rule by clerical elders, then we can have a real comparison going.
    Itís in the small things that the rot starts. Do the wrong thing once, itís easier to do it again. Do the individualistic thing once, it is easy to do it again.

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    Re: Far Right Common with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    Editors Note: Milo Comerford is an analyst at the Tony Blair Institute For Global Change. The opinions in this article are those of the author. See more opinion on CNN.com

    So even CNN does not want to stake a claim to this opinion piece!..

    Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
    Stop with the comparisons and trying to make claims about American Taliban crap.
    It was an attack on peaceful worshipers as a result of right wing extremism. Refusing to acknowledge that is no more useful than refusing to acknowledge that Islamic extremists come out of the Middle East.
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    Re: Far Right Common with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    This is immoral and irresponsible nonsense, SonOfDaedalus. That is kind of like saying the Taliban wear beards and many social conservatives wear beards, and thus they are identical. When social conservatives start murdering schoolgirls or throwing acid in their faces for wishing to go to school, forcing women to wear non-revealing clothing, and eliminating everyone's right to vote and institute a rule by clerical elders, then we can have a real comparison going.
    Give the Far Right exclusive control of a country, and we know they would do just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Give the Far Right exclusive control of a country, and we know they would do just that.
    That is immoral nonsense, calamity. Tell me, what are the parts of the country that you would compare to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan right now? Huntsville, Alabama? Dallas, Texas? There are parts of this country that are ruby-red and social conservatives are in full control, yet none of the things that the Taliban are most well-known for (i.e., oppression, mass-murder and violent iconoclasm) are happening right now. Nor will they foreseeably happen. Speak truthfully and speak morally or speak not at all.
    Itís in the small things that the rot starts. Do the wrong thing once, itís easier to do it again. Do the individualistic thing once, it is easy to do it again.

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    Re: Far Right Common with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    That is immoral nonsense, calamity. Tell me, what are the parts of the country that you would compare to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan right now? Huntsville, Alabama? Dallas, Texas? There are parts of this country that are ruby-red and social conservatives are in full control, yet none of the things that the Taliban are most well-known for (i.e., oppression and mass murder) are happening right now. Nor will they foreseeably happen. Speak truthfully and speak morally or speak not at all.
    Most of Mississippi and almost all of Louisiana. But, yes, the American Taliban is not the Afghani Taliban. Hence, the "American"
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