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Far Right Common with ISIS

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What far-right terror has in common with ISIS


The increasingly transnational narratives of far right extremists have strong parallels with other forms of global extremism, in particular Islamism. Like ISIS, the Christchurch attacker's ideology claims there are no such thing as innocents in this clash of civilizations between Islam and the West, only combatants. Both worldviews emphasize transnational bonds of brotherhood. While the shooter frames his identity as part of a global white European race, ISIS emphasizes a global Islamic identity in its propaganda, which it uses to perpetuate a form of warped solidarity.

One area where this ideological relationship is particularly evident is in the Western Balkans region, which the shooter frames in his propaganda as a frontline in a civilizational contest between Europe and the Islamic world. Showing the long view of history feeding into this ethno-nationalist ideology, the weapons used -- as seen in a video of the attack livestreamed on Facebook -- have scrawled upon them references to 14th century Serbian fighters involved in defending against the Ottoman invasion. There was also the name of Frankish warlord Charles Martel, who turned back the Islamic forces of Abdul Rahman at Poitiers in the eighth century -- a figure who has become a resurgent fascist symbol. He also draws on the imagery of the defense of Christendom at Vienna, the furthest point of Ottoman expansion in 1529 by Suleiman the Magnificent. It is no accident that one of the most prominent far right blogs is called "Gates of Vienna."

Our research has shown uncanny parallels with ISIS propaganda targeting the Western Balkans region. Drawing on the same history, ISIS videos present the region as the "frontier for the Muslims," while unofficial ISIS propaganda has included the Balkans as a "province" in its plans for expansion of its failed "Caliphate." Those borders are based on the frontiers of Islamic conquest under the Ottomans in the 16th century. Such narratives feed into the shooter's perceptions of inevitable conflict between Islam and the West.



I've called them the American Taliban for years. So, what do we call the globalized version of it? ISIS-White?
 
What far-right terror has in common with ISIS






I've called them the American Taliban for years. So, what do we call the globalized version of it? ISIS-White?

The Taliban are social conservatives just like Republicans. All the social issues, abortion, gay marriage, prayer in schools, transgender rights are things the Taliban and social conservatives agree about.
 
Editors Note: Milo Comerford is an analyst at the Tony Blair Institute For Global Change. The opinions in this article are those of the author. See more opinion on CNN.com

So even CNN does not want to stake a claim to this opinion piece!..

Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
Stop with the comparisons and trying to make claims about American Taliban crap.
 
Editors Note: Milo Comerford is an analyst at the Tony Blair Institute For Global Change. The opinions in this article are those of the author. See more opinion on CNN.com

So even CNN does not want to stake a claim to this opinion piece!..

Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
Stop with the comparisons and trying to make claims about American Taliban crap.

American Taliban is apt. I don't care if you hate it. Too ****ing bad.
 
Nothing like a shooting to bring out the rhetoric from the leftwing nutjobs.
 
The Taliban are social conservatives just like Republicans. All the social issues, abortion, gay marriage, prayer in schools, transgender rights are things the Taliban and social conservatives agree about.

This is immoral and irresponsible nonsense, SonOfDaedalus. That is kind of like saying the Taliban wear beards and many social conservatives wear beards, and thus they are identical. When social conservatives start murdering schoolgirls or throwing acid in their faces for wishing to go to school, forcing women to wear non-revealing clothing, and eliminating everyone's right to vote and institute a rule by clerical elders, then we can have a real comparison going.
 
Editors Note: Milo Comerford is an analyst at the Tony Blair Institute For Global Change. The opinions in this article are those of the author. See more opinion on CNN.com

So even CNN does not want to stake a claim to this opinion piece!..

Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
Stop with the comparisons and trying to make claims about American Taliban crap.

It was an attack on peaceful worshipers as a result of right wing extremism. Refusing to acknowledge that is no more useful than refusing to acknowledge that Islamic extremists come out of the Middle East.
 
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This is immoral and irresponsible nonsense, SonOfDaedalus. That is kind of like saying the Taliban wear beards and many social conservatives wear beards, and thus they are identical. When social conservatives start murdering schoolgirls or throwing acid in their faces for wishing to go to school, forcing women to wear non-revealing clothing, and eliminating everyone's right to vote and institute a rule by clerical elders, then we can have a real comparison going.

Give the Far Right exclusive control of a country, and we know they would do just that.
 
Give the Far Right exclusive control of a country, and we know they would do just that.

That is immoral nonsense, calamity. Tell me, what are the parts of the country that you would compare to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan right now? Huntsville, Alabama? Dallas, Texas? There are parts of this country that are ruby-red and social conservatives are in full control, yet none of the things that the Taliban are most well-known for (i.e., oppression, mass-murder and violent iconoclasm) are happening right now. Nor will they foreseeably happen. Speak truthfully and speak morally or speak not at all.
 
That is immoral nonsense, calamity. Tell me, what are the parts of the country that you would compare to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan right now? Huntsville, Alabama? Dallas, Texas? There are parts of this country that are ruby-red and social conservatives are in full control, yet none of the things that the Taliban are most well-known for (i.e., oppression and mass murder) are happening right now. Nor will they foreseeably happen. Speak truthfully and speak morally or speak not at all.

Most of Mississippi and almost all of Louisiana. But, yes, the American Taliban is not the Afghani Taliban. Hence, the "American" :roll:
 
Nothing like a shooting to bring out the rhetoric from the leftwing nutjobs.

Considering an Australian far right elected nutjob just tried to blame the victims.......your persecution complex doesn’t hold water.
 
The Taliban are social conservatives just like Republicans. All the social issues, abortion, gay marriage, prayer in schools, transgender rights are things the Taliban and social conservatives agree about.

This post is so very twisted, It’s astonishing how any American or even a hater from abroad could come up with this twisted mess. But the gullible do tend to fall for the bait and troll threads.
 
This post is so very twisted, It’s astonishing how any American or even a hater from abroad could come up with this twisted mess. But the gullible do tend to fall for the bait and troll threads.

Are you saying that the Taliban and American social conservatives don't agree about gay marriage, only two genders, abortion, prayer in schools?
 
Nothing like a shooting to bring out the rhetoric from the leftwing nutjobs.


Were you expecting reason and rationality in this thread? Chances are the topic came from a lunatic left twitter feed. But, hey, all Independent and republican voters are the same as the Taliban, who knew?
 
Were you expecting reason and rationality in this thread? Chances are the topic came from a lunatic left twitter feed. But, hey, all Independent and republican voters are the same as the Taliban, who knew?

Hmmmm, you really missed out on the old English Comprehension thing eh? Try reading the OP again, perhaps slowly and carefully?

I'll give you a hint to help you on your way: You will see "far right" mentioned. Not independents. This is what happens when you let others tell you what to think.
 
Considering an Australian far right elected nutjob just tried to blame the victims.......your persecution complex doesn’t hold water.

Start a thread on that rightwing nutjob and I'll copy and paste my comment...just changing one word.

The article writer in this thread is a leftwing nutjob.
 
Hmmmm, you really missed out on the old English Comprehension thing eh? Try reading the OP again, perhaps slowly and carefully?

I'll give you a hint to help you on your way: You will see "far right" mentioned. Not independents. This is what happens when you let others tell you what to think.

Well, allow me to retort, Wasn’t the bias clear? And wasn’t it nonsensical? In todays US political climate one not toeing the liberal lunatic line is the “Far-right” and that includes Independents and all republicans, suggesting otherwise is naive and dishonest. I understand that some want to play word definition games as a debate tactic, sorry, that won’t fly with me.

Please go back to watching MSNBC and getting your opinions from twitter feeds
 
Most of Mississippi and almost all of Louisiana. But, yes, the American Taliban is not the Afghani Taliban. Hence, the "American" :roll:

So exactly like the Taliban, except without the theocratic oppression and violence? The things that make the Taliban the Taliban?

How is that any different from me calling you a Nazi with the understanding that you are not a racial supremacist; you do not hate Jews, Gypsies or homosexuals; you have no desire to do away with democracy and institute single-party police state revolving around a cult of leader leader-worship; or start aggressive foreign wars in order to expand your nation's territories? In other words, comparing American social conservatives to the Taliban is like me comparing you, calamity, to a Nazi: you are a Nazi in every way except in any manner that makes you comparable to a Nazi.
 
The Taliban are social conservatives just like Republicans. All the social issues, abortion, gay marriage, prayer in schools, transgender rights are things the Taliban and social conservatives agree about.


The Taliban are Terrorists just like `far left` Democrats Killing babies and allowing other terrorists to thrive through open borders....Democrats are also just as "slow" and Dumb like the terrorist they support. ..based on the daily...ignorant nonsense they spew every day
 
The Taliban are Terrorists just like `far left` Democrats Killing babies and allowing other terrorists to thrive through open borders....Democrats are also just as "slow" and Dumb like the terrorist they support. ..based on the daily...ignorant nonsense they spew every day

But the Taliban agree with you that the Dems are baby killers and that abortion should be illegal. And if abortions are murder shoulddn't those who have abortions be executed for murder? The Taliban think so. How can you disagree? You believe in the death penalty for premiditated murder, don't you?

And Texas had a law that liberals on the court struck down but conservatives voted to uphold. It was an anti-Sodomy law. A man was arrested for having gay sex in his own home.

I'm pretty sure the Taliban would agree with conservatives that Texas should have a right to make sodomy illegal.

Feel free to continue with your namecalling as I make valid rational points. The Taliban are social conservatives. You can't deny that.
 
The Taliban are Terrorists just like `far left` Democrats Killing babies and allowing other terrorists to thrive through open borders....Democrats are also just as "slow" and Dumb like the terrorist they support. ..based on the daily...ignorant nonsense they spew every day

Yes, the American Taliban is alive and well, as we see.
 
So exactly like the Taliban, except without the theocratic oppression and violence? The things that make the Taliban the Taliban?

How is that any different from me calling you a Nazi with the understanding that you are not a racial supremacist; you do not hate Jews, Gypsies or homosexuals; you have no desire to do away with democracy and institute single-party police state revolving around a cult of leader leader-worship; or start aggressive foreign wars in order to expand your nation's territories? In other words, comparing American social conservatives to the Taliban is like me comparing you, calamity, to a Nazi: you are a Nazi in every way except in any manner that makes you comparable to a Nazi.

American Taliban: Anti any religion but their own; anti sex before marriage, anti gay, anti immigrant, anti reproductive choice, anti women's rights, racist, want prayer in schools and the public square. Yes, very Taliban.

Not to mention shoot up abortion clinics, synagogues and Mosques: Americanized version of the Taliban.
 
Give the Far Right exclusive control of a country, and we know they would do just that.

Horsesh*t. The difference between conservatives and liberals is that we just want to be left alone to live our lives. Liberals want to run our lives for us and demand that we agree with their social agenda or be called "Taliban" or some other BS. Don't agree with gay marriage? Taliban!! Homophobe!! Don't agree with abortion up to delivery day? ISIS!!! Misogynist!! There is no way to have rational dialogue with such people. The only course that can be taken is to oppose them and defeat them at every turn and that is what we will do.
 
American Taliban: Anti any religion but their own; anti sex before marriage, anti gay, anti immigrant, anti reproductive choice, anti women's rights, racist, want prayer in schools and the public square. Yes, very Taliban.

Not to mention shoot up abortion clinics, synagogues and Mosques: Americanized version of the Taliban.

What point is having a religion if you don't think your's is the only true one? You also sound like a fool making blanket claims about what you think are the beliefs of all conservatives or Christians. Your game is broad brushed character assassination and it says much about the values YOU hold.
 
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