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Far Right Common with ISIS

Mycroft said:
Nothing like a shooting to bring out the rhetoric from the leftwing nutjobs.
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Yeah, the nutjobs with the ZERO body count.
At any rate, it's the American Far Right that boasts a body count in the tens of thousands in the last half century.
If we include their historical white supremacist cousins in the Old Segregationist Southern Democrats of a couple of generations ago, that brings the body count to close to a million.

That's not to say that radical authoritarian tyranny and terror is unknown to the American Far Left, it's just that it's been dormant here since the late 1960's.

Keep selling those woof tickets, Mycroft.
I almost think I want to see you terrified by radicalized leftists run amuck.
Not conservatives, just you and your fellow Trump toadies.
 
veritas1 said:
Pretty much a waste. They must derive some vicarious pleasure out of saying outlandishly stupid crap and then have others debunk it.
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eohrnberger said:
Sucking the air out of the room, or news cycle.

Raises the question, what are they trying to distract away from? What's most recent in the news?

Lisa Page's interview which demonstrated Obama's use of government power against the political opposition and to protect those not, but that's already a few days old.

Anything new that you can think of?
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Hmm. This seems a likely candidate.

House Judiciary Republican releases transcript of ex-FBI agent Strzok's testimony
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah, the nutjobs with the ZERO body count.
At any rate, it's the American Far Right that boasts a body count in the tens of thousands in the last half century.
If we include their historical white supremacist cousins in the Old Segregationist Southern Democrats of a couple of generations ago, that brings the body count to close to a million.

That's not to say that radical authoritarian tyranny and terror is unknown to the American Far Left, it's just that it's been dormant here since the late 1960's.

Keep selling those woof tickets, Mycroft.
I almost think I want to see you terrified by radicalized leftists run amuck.
Not conservatives, just you and your fellow Trump toadies.
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You are advocating for leftwing terrorists to attack me and fellow Trump supporters?

That's a ****ing pathetic and highly disturbing thing for you to say.
 
veritas1 said:
Pretty much a waste. They must derive some vicarious pleasure out of saying outlandishly stupid crap and then have others debunk it.
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Might even be this:

The government of Finland collapsed Friday due to the rising cost of universal health care and the prime minister's failure to enact reforms to the system.

Prime Minister Juha Sipila and the rest of the cabinet resigned after the governing coalition failed to pass reforms in parliament to the country's regional government and health services, the Wall Street Journal reports. Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens expected to be over 65 by the year 2030, an increase of 5 percent from today.

Sipila's reforms "intended to remove power from the 295 municipalities that currently oversee health and social care, and place responsibility within a leaner, more efficient system of 18 elected regional authorities," according to the Journal. The prime minister also wanted patients to be able to choose from a range of public and private providers.
Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
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Mycroft said:
You are advocating for leftwing terrorists to attack me and fellow Trump supporters?

That's a ****ing pathetic and highly disturbing thing for you to say.
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I'm suggesting it's entertaining to see you terrified by the thought.
I seriously doubt anybody will have to actually do so much as lift a finger for that to happen, as it's pretty much happening already.
You look in the mirror and you see hallucinations of violent leftists coming from behind the sofa.
You've been milking this whole "violent leftist" tit for months.
Trump's been milking it for months.

Screw it, I'm getting impatient with his constant reality tee vee tease, let's just go for it and bring it to a head.
I want to see Donald Trump totally lose it and go full freakout.
We already know what your reaction to that will be, you've been telegraphing it so well.

Again, not ordinary conservatives, just you guys, the Trump Faithful Brethren.

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What is unfortunate in this back and forth partisan banality is that there is a serious question that is reflected in the OP. I, for one, am really interested in exploring radicalization and violence. In that regard, there is a parallel between radical white supremacists and radical religion groups. Indeed, there is some overlap.

How about considering that?
 
NWRatCon said:
What is unfortunate in this back and forth partisan banality is that there is a serious question that is reflected in the OP. I, for one, am really interested in exploring radicalization and violence. In that regard, there is a parallel between radical white supremacists and radical religion groups. Indeed, there is some overlap.

How about considering that?
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In essence that is what this thread is about. However, as you will see as you visit this site more and more, rational discussion is hardly possible.

Notice how they immediately focused on my personal opinion Re: American Taliban; and avoided the larger discussion like the plague. Now, could I have avoided using that term? Of course. But, I have been here for a while. So, I just took a short cut to get to where this would eventually go anyway.
 
calamity said:
In essence that is what this thread is about. However, as you will see as you visit this site more and more, rational discussion is hardly possible.

Notice how they immediately focused on my personal opinion Re: American Taliban; and avoided the larger discussion like the plague. Now, could I have avoided using that term? Of course. But, I have been here for a while. So, I just took a short cut to get to where this would eventually go anyway.
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You'll find, I suspect, over time, that while I will snark at particularly inept partisan trollisms, I much prefer to have a discussion based upon rationality, considered judgment, and evidence.
 
eohrnberger said:
Sucking the air out of the room, or news cycle.

Raises the question, what are they trying to distract away from? What's most recent in the news?

Lisa Page's interview which demonstrated Obama's use of government power against the political opposition and to protect those not, but that's already a few days old.

Anything new that you can think of?
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Not really. I don't even think it's in response to any news. It's just what they do.
 
NWRatCon said:
Okay, I'm calling BS on repeated counter-historical claims. Marriage, in the western tradition, was not established for propagating. That is propaganda. It was established for property transfer. It was, literally centuries later that "the church" created a sacrament for it - because they wanted to get in on the whole property thing.

Just sayin'.
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Marriage is marriage, "Western tradition" or not. The edifice of civil law built around it was added later.
 
calamity said:
In essence that is what this thread is about. However, as you will see as you visit this site more and more, rational discussion is hardly possible.

Notice how they immediately focused on my personal opinion Re: American Taliban; and avoided the larger discussion like the plague. Now, could I have avoided using that term? Of course. But, I have been here for a while. So, I just took a short cut to get to where this would eventually go anyway.
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Hilarious. You go around calling people "the Taliban" for having traditional views. Yea, you're very rational. You need not make excuses for where the thread went. It went exactly as you wanted it to.
 
veritas1 said:
Marriage is marriage, "Western tradition" or not. The edifice of civil law built around it was added later.
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OMG, is logical construction of an argument simpy beyond your capacity? Wait, already demonstrated. Nevermind. But, I'm am eternal optimist.

Let's see if this can possibly work.... "the edifice of civil law" has changed substantially in the last decade, century, millennia. You do understand that, right? As society changes, laws change. Here's a question: do you even know what "civil law" is? That may be an important starting point.

I'm willing to help you understand the vacuity of your arguments, of you're willing to be civil in discourse and open to understanding.
 
veritas1 said:
Which has got what to do with anything? I guess you've never heard of figures of speech.
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Trust me, friend, I know all my figures. Do you the concept of continuity? Verbal ineptitude (see, Rudy Giuliani)? Limits of imagination? Art in the soul?
 
NWRatCon said:
Trust me, friend, I know all my figures. Do you the concept of continuity? Verbal ineptitude (see, Rudy Giuliani)? Limits of imagination? Art in the soul?
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You said that you suspected that I'd never fired a howitzer as if that has any relevance to the point that was being made. You may like to wander off into an unrelated discussion but I'd suggest a new thread in that case.
 
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Common Sense 1 said:
Why don't people just call this what it is a vile and hideous mass murder of the worst kind. Killing defenseless people while they worship.
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That's what a big Trump fan just did in NZ. To Muslims.
 
Felis Leo said:
This is immoral and irresponsible nonsense, SonOfDaedalus. That is kind of like saying the Taliban wear beards and many social conservatives wear beards, and thus they are identical. When social conservatives start murdering schoolgirls or throwing acid in their faces for wishing to go to school, forcing women to wear non-revealing clothing, and eliminating everyone's right to vote and institute a rule by clerical elders, then we can have a real comparison going.
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American conservatives are forced to work within a much different society, but they are working on many of the things you mentioned. They're certainly doing what they can to make it difficult for minorities to vote.

Discriminatory voter laws have surged, federal panel finds - CNNPolitics

Some have gone on religiously motivated murder binges. One just went off in NZ. There are all sorts of attacks against Muslims.

Assaults against Muslims in U.S. surpass 2001 level

And of course many demand things like abstinence only sex education, and demand control over women's bodies.


So in reality, comparing Christian conservatives to the Taliban is very accurate. At least if we're basing the discussion on facts. Surely we shouldn't be surprised that religious zealots are similar, especially considering both are zealots of Abrahamic religions.
 
JustHanging said:
American conservatives are forced to work within a much different society, but they are working on many of the things you mentioned. They're certainly doing what they can to make it difficult for minorities to vote.

Discriminatory voter laws have surged, federal panel finds - CNNPolitics
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Do you understand that there is a difference between alleged voter suppression and the complete abnegation of all forms of democracy because they are an anathema to your religious teachings, JustHanging? That it is not merely a difference of degree but a difference

JustHanging said:
Some have gone on religiously motivated murder binges. One just went off in NZ. There are all sorts of attacks against Muslims.

Assaults against Muslims in U.S. surpass 2001 level
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First, I do not see how this is a result of American conservatism or American conservatives. And how is a self-described "eco-fascist" from New Zealand an American conservative?

JustHanging said:
And of course many demand things like abstinence only sex education, and advocate having control over women's bodies.
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Do you honestly believe that abstinence-only education and being anti-abortion as being just as impactful as anti-adultery laws that mandate the death penalty? Was America a theocratic Hellscape like the Handmaid's tale prior to the advent of legalized abortion? Were women routinely having acid thrown in their faces for seeking education or being executed under the law for questioning their husbands?

JustHanging said:
So in reality, comparing Christian conservatives to the Taliban is very accurate. At least if we're basing the discussion on facts.
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Only if you know absolutely nothing about the Taliban and their victims, and barely anything of American conservatism that you do not hear filtered through hyper-partisan media outlets.
 
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