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Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

Unitedwestand13 said:
There might be just one tiny little problem with your proposed path to victory for Hickenlooper: the progressive base wants something more.
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Sure they do... just like they wanted Great Society II back in 1976. Only thing is, they were split between about 8 different candidates on the left.
 
tres borrachos said:
I hope you're right!
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I agree, Hickenlooper would be my first choice as actual president, however I was contemplating the ticket to beat trump.

I believe Biden can win both the primary and election, particularly if he runs for one term.

I thought Beto would be could for firing up the youth vote and get people to get out and vote this election.


All I know is that democrats can not **** this up again...
 
GDViking said:
I agree, Hickenlooper would be my first choice as actual president, however I was contemplating the ticket to beat trump.

I believe Biden can win both the primary and election, particularly if he runs for one term.

I thought Beto would be could for firing up the youth vote and get people to get out and vote this election.


All I know is that democrats can not **** this up again...
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They can't. But they probably will. I just hope they don't. Give this lifelong Republican someone decent se can vote for. Just because the Republicans were stupid enough to offer up Trump doesn't mean the Dems need to double down on the ignorance in 2020.
 
Biden/Gabbard 2020

But if I'm being honest, I don't think Trump should be nominated at all... for a 2020 presidential election.

So.

Bill Weld vs. Biden/Gabbard... 2020...

;)
 
tres borrachos said:
They can't. But they probably will. I just hope they don't. Give this lifelong Republican someone decent se can vote for. Just because the Republicans were stupid enough to offer up Trump doesn't mean the Dems need to double down on the ignorance in 2020.
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Sadly, I think it might...
 
tres borrachos said:
They can't. But they probably will. I just hope they don't. Give this lifelong Republican someone decent se can vote for. Just because the Republicans were stupid enough to offer up Trump doesn't mean the Dems need to double down on the ignorance in 2020.
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To be honest, putting the possibility of winning aside and going with just my dream ticket it would be Hickenlooper/Kasich...
 
GDViking said:
Biden to fix the nation and bring us back to the center, and reunite the nation...

Beto to appeal to younger voters looking for change...

If biden runs on one term with Beto the likely successor, how could they lose?
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Very few voters, if any decide whom to vote for the presidency on whom is selected as his VP candidate. This isn't saying the VP candidate can't help the ticket as you pointed out, he may get some younger voters to the polls. Also one reason to choose a VP candidate is to pick one from a swing state. Where your VP could help you win that swing state. I doubt Beto could make much difference in Texas.

Independents tend to be more moderate than either of the two major parties. Their ideology is somewhere in-between the two major parties. Biden by himself would be attractive to independents, more so in my opinion than Beto. Grooming Beto for 2020? Whomever is Biden's VP being he promised to serve only one term, would be groomed and at a huge advantage for 2024.

Now being a senator and VP, I do think Biden picking a Governor would be better than an ex-congressman. That's called balancing the ticket. Picking a governor from a swing state would a double chance reward. Cooper from NC could turn that state blue, Evers, Whitmere or Wolf would probably ensure Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania returns to the blue column.

As long as Biden doesn't make a huge mistake on his choice if he gets the nomination, like McCain did with Palen, I think Biden would be an easy winner against Trump. Biden's problem would probably be winning in the Democratic primaries.
 
GDViking said:
Wow you sure sing a different tune than when you're screeching about trumps crimes...
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O'Rourke actually committed crimes and you're perfectly willing to ignore them.
 
nota bene said:
This is a thread about Beto O'Rourke. I posted about Beto O'Rourke.
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Yes, to a republican, the discussion is never trump’s crimes, corruption and fraud. And that’s why a republican’s perspective on a Democrat hopping a fence when he was 20 has no currency.
 
GDViking said:
Biden to fix the nation and bring us back to the center, and reunite the nation...

Beto to appeal to younger voters looking for change...

If biden runs on one term with Beto the likely successor, how could they lose?
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I'm not excited by that ticket and I do not believe that it's a winning strategy.

I could be wrong, but right now I'd place 50/50 odds on Biden totally falling within 6 months or staying the whole way through. He's very popular right now because liberals feel that he is a safe vestige of the Obama era. Biden summons a nice, warm feeling inside them of a time when the president wasn't a self-aggrandising fool. But when the time comes for Biden to open his mouth and speak about what he wants to do for America, how he wants to deal with Trump, and what his track record is, and people still are behind him --then I'll believe that he has a winning shot. But not before. I think that Kamala Harris stands a much better chance than he does, to be brutally honest, at taking the majority of the left-wing moderates. If she won the primary, she'd have a much easier time pulling in the Left than Biden would, that's for sure. On the flip side, it's still early days for the Left. I think it's too early to say that it's Bernie, but right now he is lapping the field.
 
apdst said:
O'Rourke actually committed crimes and you're perfectly willing to ignore them.
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There is far more evidence that trump has committed hundreds of crimes than your newspaper clippings prove Beto Beto did.

Hell you claim manafort is going to prison for a non crime, even though he, his lawyers, a prosecutor, and a judge all agree he broke the law and is guilty.

And you are going to try to discredit someone for something that happened over 20 years ago that he was not convicted of?
 
GDViking said:
Biden to fix the nation and bring us back to the center, and reunite the nation...

Beto to appeal to younger voters looking for change...

If biden runs on one term with Beto the likely successor, how could they lose?
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I really don't know enough about Beto yet to judge him, however Nominating Biden would be almost as much of a mistake for the democrats as nominating Hillary.

Stuff like the following video would end up front and center:

YouTube
 
PoS said:
I doubt it. Beto and Biden havent shown they could win anything. AOC on the other hand, she could be a force if she keeps it up...
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First she would have to advance to at least a high school level of knowledge of American Government.
 
GDViking said:
Biden to fix the nation and bring us back to the center, and reunite the nation...

Beto to appeal to younger voters looking for change...

If biden runs on one term with Beto the likely successor, how could they lose?
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:roll:

 
GDViking said:
Funny how cultists can claim that laws were not broken when people have been convicted of them and going to prison.

However someone can have never even been charged is guilty...
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They can explain that, it's all due to The Deep State...
 
GDViking said:
There is far more evidence that trump has committed hundreds of crimes than your newspaper clippings prove Beto Beto did.

Hell you claim manafort is going to prison for a non crime, even though he, his lawyers, a prosecutor, and a judge all agree he broke the law and is guilty.

And you are going to try to discredit someone for something that happened over 20 years ago that he was not convicted of?
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You post your evidence and I'll post mine and let's see whose list is most credible. Whatcha say?
 
Fletch said:
IF Biden wins the nomination, I think the political pressure to pick one of the many women in the race as his VP would be tremendous. Two white guys on the dem ticket just aint happening.
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You make a good point. Beto's best chance of being a VP pick would be if one of the ladies won. He would be a tempting VP pick for anyone though. Having a Texan on the ticket is rarely a bad move.
 
rjay said:
You make a good point. Beto's best chance of being a VP pick would be if one of the ladies won. He would be a tempting VP pick for anyone though. Having a Texan on the ticket is rarely a bad move.
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Biden would be too old after 4 or 8 years as VP. We need a VP young enough to be nominated for president in 8 years...
 
apdst said:
You post your evidence and I'll post mine and let's see whose list is most credible. Whatcha say?
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I have played that game with you far too often.

You are well aware of all the evidence against trump, and if you believe someone can be a criminal without a conviction, then trump is a criminal...
 
GDViking said:
I have played that game with you far too often.

You are well aware of all the evidence against trump, and if you believe someone can be a criminal without a conviction, then trump is a criminal...
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I knew you wouldn't stand up to the challenge. :lamo
 
SoCal said:
Biden would be too old after 4 or 8 years as VP. We need a VP young enough to be nominated for president in 8 years...
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Yes Biden is older. But of course we are talking about Beto, so Biden's age does not affect the fact that Beto could be a good strategic pick for VP for any of the candidates.
 
GDViking said:
Biden to fix the nation and bring us back to the center, and reunite the nation...

Beto to appeal to younger voters looking for change...

If biden runs on one term with Beto the likely successor, how could they lose?
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Biden yes, Beto not so much

If the Dems want to knock out Rump put Booker or Abrams on the ticket, it will bring out the African American vote which was lacking in 2016.

Run Joe run !!
 
rjay said:
Yes Biden is older. But of course we are talking about Beto, so Biden's age does not affect the fact that Beto could be a good strategic pick for VP for any of the candidates.
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Ahh, I misunderstood. I agree, he should be on the ticket, but right now I'd like to see him run for president with a woman VP...
 
rjay said:
You make a good point. Beto's best chance of being a VP pick would be if one of the ladies won. He would be a tempting VP pick for anyone though. Having a Texan on the ticket is rarely a bad move.
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You could have two Texans on the Dem ticket and the Lone Star State will still go to the Republican candidate.
 
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