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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    1998? That was 20 years ago. Whatever happened to "compassionate Conservatism"? /s


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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I hear you on that point. But regardless of who he picks for VP, I would still be concerned about his age. I'd prefer a younger top of the ticket.
    My concern with Biden as well. I'm going to vote for the Democratic candidate for the first time in my life, and i prefer someone younger. Biden is in great shape for his age, but his age is too advanced for me.
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Exactly my point the only argument for Biden is that he’s not Trump. You can rarely win by just being not someone else
    But you also can. Look at Trump. How many people voted for him because he wasn't Clinton? On this very board I can think of a dozen or so who made that exact claim.

    And there's me. For the first time in 40 years I plan to vote for the Democratic candidate, because it isn't Trump.
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Biden to fix the nation and bring us back to the center, and reunite the nation...

    Beto to appeal to younger voters looking for change...

    If biden runs on one term with Beto the likely successor, how could they lose?
    To be perfectly frank, I think Biden is a has-been and O'Rourke is a never-was. You need to take a good, hard look at Biden's last two attempts at running for President (1988 & 2008) if you want to get a feel for how the third will go.

    On paper, they both look great... in practice, not so much.

    My money is on Hickenlooper-Klobuchar.
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What was O'Rourke convicted of?
    The same crimes Hillary was convicted of. You know - the one they scream is a criminal and should be locked up?
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    To be perfectly frank, I think Biden is a has-been and O'Rourke is a never-was. You need to take a good, hard look at Biden's last two attempts at running for President (1988 & 2008) if you want to get a feel for how the third will go.

    On paper, they both look great... in practice, not so much.

    My money is on Hickenlooper-Klobuchar.
    My *hope* is Hickenlooper, but I'm not so sure about Klobuchar. The Dem is probably going to win Minnesota anyway. I would pick a running mate who can deliver a swing state.
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okay, so you were speaking for yourself. But nationwide that does nothing to change the fact his corruption, fraud and criminality have had zero impact on his approval ratings since he was inaugurated.
    This is a thread about Beto O'Rourke. I posted about Beto O'Rourke.

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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My *hope* is Hickenlooper, but I'm not so sure about Klobuchar. The Dem is probably going to win Minnesota anyway. I would pick a running mate who can deliver a swing state.
    Ideally, sure.... I've got Sherrod Brown as my alternate VP pick. But if we're talking about actually having a VP that could take over, Klobuchar is the better pick. Plus, she'd be a lot more impressive on the campaign trail, and will have built-in support and infrastructure from her campaign. Brown may (or may not) bring Ohio, but I figure Klobuchar brings more to the ticket.
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    Ideally, sure.... I've got Sherrod Brown as my alternate VP pick. But if we're talking about actually having a VP that could take over, Klobuchar is the better pick. Plus, she'd be a lot more impressive on the campaign trail, and will have built-in support and infrastructure from her campaign. Brown may (or may not) bring Ohio, but I figure Klobuchar brings more to the ticket.
    Brown was actually who I was thinking of. Ohio is so critical to the win. Trump lost MN and they have tilted left since 2016 so I don't see it being a state that is in jeopardy.

    I think she's more dynamic than Brown, for sure. Brown may not bring Ohio as you said, but I think it's a better chance with him on the ticket. JMO.

    Whatever transpires, it will be interesting to watch for sure. I didn't predict Pence as Trump's mate (it only made the ticket look even worse to me). I didn't predict Palin either. Ryan I understood. Kaine too.
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    Re: Is a Biden, Beto the winning ticket???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Brown was actually who I was thinking of. Ohio is so critical to the win. Trump lost MN and they have tilted left since 2016 so I don't see it being a state that is in jeopardy.

    I think she's more dynamic than Brown, for sure. Brown may not bring Ohio as you said, but I think it's a better chance with him on the ticket. JMO.

    Whatever transpires, it will be interesting to watch for sure. I didn't predict Pence as Trump's mate (it only made the ticket look even worse to me). I didn't predict Palin either. Ryan I understood. Kaine too.
    The VP isn't going to win the election for you, but they sure as hell can lose it.... personally, I'd rather get someone who's a proven commodity outside of their own state.

    I predicted the Republican VP was going to be Pence or Kasich.... I just never predicted Trump was going to be the nominee. But the key was always going to be winning the Great Lakes states. Same thing goes this time around.

    Tempermentally, I think Hickenlooper and Klobuchar are a better fit, and I think she'll still give a certain amount of regional appeal. Plus, just picture how much of a contrast she'll make to Pence in the VP debate.
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