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Robert Mueller's top prosecutor leaving special counsel's office

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Robert Mueller's top prosecutor leaving special counsel's office

Robert Mueller'''s top prosecutor leaving special counsel'''s office
Andrew Weissmann, Robert Mueller's top prosecutor, is leaving the special counsel's office within the next week or so, a source close to him confirmed to NBC News.

The news was first reported by National Public Radio, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

Mueller's top FBI investigator, David Archey, has also left Mueller’s team to become the agent in charge of the Richmond field office, according to an FBI announcement posted Friday. A top counterintelligence official, Archey had been the senior agent on Mueller’s team.


The high-profile departures are the latest public sign that the special counsel is close to wrapping up his investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and the 2016 Russian election interference effort.
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This means the SC does not have enough evidence to bring a criminal conspiracy case against Trump's circle. There's really no other way to read this. Weissmann would not be ready to go home if there was a criminal conspiracy case coming - no way, no how.

But it makes one wonder. If there isn't a criminal conspiracy indictment coming, what's with all the secrecy and redactions?
 
I presume that means we are close to a conclusion, now what that conclusion is.... who knows?
 
Weissman would actually be Mueller's top financial prosecutions prosecutor. I don't see the Stone prosecution yielding the kind of prosecution we had with Manafort.

No telling. Frankly the media has been overheated over this whole "its ending this week next week whatever week" thing. When it ends it ends.
 
MovingPictures said:
Robert Mueller's top prosecutor leaving special counsel's office

Robert Mueller'''s top prosecutor leaving special counsel'''s office

This means the SC does not have enough evidence to bring a criminal conspiracy case against Trump's circle. There's really no other way to read this. Weissmann would not be ready to go home if there was a criminal conspiracy case coming - no way, no how.

But it makes one wonder. If there isn't a criminal conspiracy indictment coming, what's with all the secrecy and redactions?
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actually paige's testimony blew the lid off this thing for the witch hunt that we new that it was.
9 months of FBI investigation 0 link between the trump campaign and russian collusion with the election.

that pretty much sums it up 100% what we knew from the start and had been saying for years.
the mueller investigation was nothing more than a poor attempt of congress to try and remove a duly elected president
simply because their person didn't win.

The people of this country should be outraged.
 
ludin said:
actually paige's testimony blew the lid off this thing for the witch hunt that we new that it was.
9 months of FBI investigation 0 link between the trump campaign and russian collusion with the election.

that pretty much sums it up 100% what we knew from the start and had been saying for years.
the mueller investigation was nothing more than a poor attempt of congress to try and remove a duly elected president
simply because their person didn't win.

The people of this country should be outraged.
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Please, find some other place to spam this nonsense.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I presume that means we are close to a conclusion, now what that conclusion is.... who knows?
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I just don't see how we have a conspiracy prosecution without Weissmann, I really don't.
 
If Mueller shuts down before the Stone prosecution ends it could well mean that what he is writing up for a report will be terse and without the detail the House is hoping to see. How can a complete report of the type the House wants to see not include the consequences of the Stone prosecution? His trial date was just set today as Nov something....8th I think.

The standard for Special Counsel submissions to the AG is a simple rationalization of prosecutions v declinations regardless of what the House has been "hoping to see". We will know when we know.
 
MovingPictures said:
I just don't see how we have a conspiracy prosecution without Weissmann, I really don't.
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Not sure about that, but as for me personally, I never believed there was any "collusion". Trump & Co. were just useful idiots for Putin, I don't believe anyone in Trump's orbit actively conspired with Russians. Never have.
 
jnug said:
If Mueller shuts down before the Stone prosecution ends it could well mean that what he is writing up for a report will be terse and without the detail the House is hoping to see. How can a complete report of the type the House wants to see not include the consequences of the Stone prosecution? His trial date was just set today as Nov something....8th I think.

The standard for Special Counsel submissions to the AG is a simple rationalization of prosecutions v declinations regardless of what the House has been "hoping to see". We will know when we know.
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What do you expect (hope) will come from a Stone prosecution that will in any way further a collusion case against trump
 
jnug said:
Weissman would actually be Mueller's top financial prosecutions prosecutor. I don't see the Stone prosecution yielding the kind of prosecution we had with Manafort.

No telling. Frankly the media has been overheated over this whole "its ending this week next week whatever week" thing. When it ends it ends.
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I know. This whole "reading the tea leaves" has gotten old. But, those airwaves aren't going to fill themselves;)
 
Airyaman said:
Not sure about that, but as for me personally, I never believed there was any "collusion". Trump & Co. were just useful idiots for Putin, I don't believe anyone in Trump's orbit actively conspired with Russians. Never have.
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So what has this two year investigation been all about then?
 
Fletch said:
What do you expect (hope) will come from a Stone prosecution that will in any way further a collusion case against trump
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Christ...look at the posts on the topic. I have one hung out there somewhere. Go find my post history. I just can't key it all again.
 
Airyaman said:
Not sure about that, but as for me personally, I never believed there was any "collusion". Trump & Co. were just useful idiots for Putin, I don't believe anyone in Trump's orbit actively conspired with Russians. Never have.
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The whole exercise was meant to delegitimize Trump's Presidency in the wake of Hillary's loss.
 
Fletch said:
So what has this two year investigation been all about then?
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Why ask me? Just because I do not believe it does not mean they didn't have real reasons to believe it in the intelligence community. I don't have all the information they have.
 
MovingPictures said:
Robert Mueller's top prosecutor leaving special counsel's office

Robert Mueller'''s top prosecutor leaving special counsel'''s office

This means the SC does not have enough evidence to bring a criminal conspiracy case against Trump's circle. There's really no other way to read this. Weissmann would not be ready to go home if there was a criminal conspiracy case coming - no way, no how.

But it makes one wonder. If there isn't a criminal conspiracy indictment coming, what's with all the secrecy and redactions?
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The Mueller probe isn't going to end until the "resistance" gets what they want. If Mueller comes up with something they can use to impeach Trump then the probe will end at that time. If Mueller doesn't come up with anything then they will continue the probe until after the 2020 elections.
 
Acadia said:
The whole exercise was meant to delegitimize Trump's Presidency in the wake of Hillary's loss.
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Trump does a pretty good job of that all by himself. In fact a very good case can be made that there never would have been a Special Counsel named if Trump could have kept his BIG MOUTH SHUT for once.
 
jnug said:
Christ...look at the posts on the topic. I have one hung out there somewhere. Go find my post history. I just can't key it all again.
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No thanks. If you are too lazy to post a response then chances are you don't have anything intelligent to say..
 
Fletch said:
No thanks. If you are too lazy to post a response then chances are you don't have anything intelligent to say..
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Nice try. I can make the same claim for somebody who is told there are multiple posts out there on the topic who just won't look for them. Too many posters here expect to be spoon fed.

For what its worth, the collusion angle is not entirely focused on Trump but on Russian involvement in the Election and links to the Trump campaign. But again, nice try.
 
Airyaman said:
Why ask me? Just because I do not believe it does not mean they didn't have real reasons to believe it in the intelligence community. I don't have all the information they have.
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Im asking you because this is a discussion site :roll: If they had 'real reasons to believe it' why do you doubt that it happened then?
 
jnug said:
Nice try. I can make the same claim for somebody who is told there are multiple posts out there on the topic who just won't look for them. Too many posters here expect to be spoon fed.
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Or you could simply answer the question in a sentence or two. Its not my job to search your posts to find out what you think. If you aren't up for debate, maybe you should find somewhere else to post your garbage.
 
Fletch said:
Or you could simply answer the question in a sentence or two. Its not my job to search your posts to find out what you think. If you aren't up for debate, maybe you should find somewhere else to post your garbage.
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Its not a sentence or two issue. Insulting me won't work. I don't consider your insults worthy of consideration.

Do some research why don't you. There is plenty of material out there besides what is posted here. Is this the only place you come outside your silo?
 
jnug said:
Its not a sentence or two issue. Insulting me won't work. I don't consider your insults worthy of consideration.

Do some research why don't you. There is plenty of material out there besides what is posted here. Is this the only place you come outside your silo?
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In the future, just reply by saying you aren't able to answer because you are too lazy to do so and we can just move on.
 
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