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    Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    I have read the tweets

    I have watched the coverage

    Is there a disconnect here?

    I understand the media from the Right making a big deal out of this. I do not understand why main stream media or the left leaning media is jumping on the band wagon.

    If you take any of her tweets and replace Israel with some other Country, there is nothing to talk about except
    a) Good point - should we change our policy toward 'x' country?
    or
    b) Is she crazy? why would we even discuss this? The current policy is the correct one.

    Those that took into consideration that Israel is made up of majority Jewish population, are being discriminatory.

    The one thing we have learned is that many anti-Semites are pro Israel. Most christian white supremacists fit here .
    Another fact is that many Americans, who support the Jewish cause are against the current Government in Israel.


    Some Americans are really weird. They think that in order to resolve the Israeli/Palestinian dispute You have to recognize that:
    a) Both sides have good points to support their respective opinions.
    b) Both sides have done terrible things.


    The worst thing we can do is to shut down debate, by shouting 'antisemitism' at anyone who brings the topic up.
    Even if that person bringing it up, happens to be Muslim.
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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    I came to the same conclusion. Sure, she doesn't like Israel - I get that. I don't like quite a few countries myself, and see no reason why we should be giving them a penny. This includes Israel.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    I have read the tweets

    I have watched the coverage

    Is there a disconnect here?

    I understand the media from the Right making a big deal out of this. I do not understand why main stream media or the left leaning media is jumping on the band wagon.

    If you take any of her tweets and replace Israel with some other Country, there is nothing to talk about except
    a) Good point - should we change our policy toward 'x' country?
    or
    b) Is she crazy? why would we even discuss this? The current policy is the correct one.

    Those that took into consideration that Israel is made up of majority Jewish population, are being discriminatory.

    The one thing we have learned is that many anti-Semites are pro Israel. Most christian white supremacists fit here .
    Another fact is that many Americans, who support the Jewish cause are against the current Government in Israel.


    Some Americans are really weird. They think that in order to resolve the Israeli/Palestinian dispute You have to recognize that:
    a) Both sides have good points to support their respective opinions.
    b) Both sides have done terrible things.


    The worst thing we can do is to shut down debate, by shouting 'antisemitism' at anyone who brings the topic up.
    Even if that person bringing it up, happens to be Muslim.
    Yeah, liberals, including the media have started calling everyone racist. The word racist has no meaning anymore. Now it's the same with anti-Semitism.

    I can't stand Republicans because they harbor racists. I believe they use dog whistle and do things to placate the racists among them. Reagan vetoes the sanctions against South Africa for apartheid. Congress had to override his veto.

    But still, I can't stand how Northam is called a racist because of one picture 30 years ago while ignoring everything he's done since. And I don't think Megyn Kelly is racist just because she said something stupid. And De Santis, who I can't stand, said "monkeying around" and they jumped on it as proof he's a racist.

    I don't think there's anything anti-Semitic about what Omar said. It's totally crazy. But both sides play this game. I really wish people would stop using racism and anti-Semitism as tools for political advantage.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    I have read the tweets

    I have watched the coverage

    Is there a disconnect here?

    I understand the media from the Right making a big deal out of this. I do not understand why main stream media or the left leaning media is jumping on the band wagon.

    If you take any of her tweets and replace Israel with some other Country, there is nothing to talk about except
    a) Good point - should we change our policy toward 'x' country?
    or
    b) Is she crazy? why would we even discuss this? The current policy is the correct one.

    Those that took into consideration that Israel is made up of majority Jewish population, are being discriminatory.

    The one thing we have learned is that many anti-Semites are pro Israel. Most christian white supremacists fit here .
    Another fact is that many Americans, who support the Jewish cause are against the current Government in Israel.


    Some Americans are really weird. They think that in order to resolve the Israeli/Palestinian dispute You have to recognize that:
    a) Both sides have good points to support their respective opinions.
    b) Both sides have done terrible things.


    The worst thing we can do is to shut down debate, by shouting 'antisemitism' at anyone who brings the topic up.
    Even if that person bringing it up, happens to be Muslim.
    I think what she said -twice-wss at the very least extremely insensitive. Borderline antisemitic. I think she should resign, and I say this as a person who actually voted for her


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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think what she said -twice-wss at the very least extremely insensitive. Borderline antisemitic. I think she should resign, and I say this as a person who actually voted for her
    What did she say that was extremely insensitive and antisemitic specifically?
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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    What did she say that was extremely insensitive and antisemitic specifically?
    Yeah, I was curious about this too. He said he was one who voted for her. I believe him. Liberals seem most prone to take offense on behalf of someone else or a group.

    In my opinion if you are personally offended by something, speak up.
    A.) If others agree they will also speak up on your behalf.
    B.) But if your perceived offense is stupid self-victim hood . Expect that to be reflected in the responses you get.

    If it does not offend you personally, be part of group A, or B
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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Yeah, liberals, including the media have started calling everyone racist. The word racist has no meaning anymore. Now it's the same with anti-Semitism.

    I can't stand Republicans because they harbor racists. I believe they use dog whistle and do things to placate the racists among them. Reagan vetoes the sanctions against South Africa for apartheid. Congress had to override his veto.

    But still, I can't stand how Northam is called a racist because of one picture 30 years ago while ignoring everything he's done since. And I don't think Megyn Kelly is racist just because she said something stupid. And De Santis, who I can't stand, said "monkeying around" and they jumped on it as proof he's a racist.

    I don't think there's anything anti-Semitic about what Omar said. It's totally crazy. But both sides play this game. I really wish people would stop using racism and anti-Semitism as tools for political advantage.
    You think Republicans use "dog whistles," but you can't see anything anti-Semitic in Omar's tweets?

    Only attuned to certain frequencies, I guess.
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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think what she said -twice-wss at the very least extremely insensitive. Borderline antisemitic. I think she should resign, and I say this as a person who actually voted for her
    It wasn't anti-semitic. One can criticize a country and a lobby that supports that country for Netanyahu w/out ever addressing Judaism.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar: anti-Semitic trope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    What did she say that was extremely insensitive and antisemitic specifically?
    Not. One. Thing.

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