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Greenpeace Founder Says Green New Deal Ridiculous

And he's absolutely correct, and it doesn't address our REAL ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, either....just the UN CO2 Income Redistribution $cam.
 
Greenpeace replies:

Greenpeace Response to Patrick Moore Statements On Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Green New Deal

“Patrick Moore was not a co-founder of Greenpeace. He does not represent Greenpeace. He is a paid lobbyist, not an independent source. His statements about Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Green New Deal–which is an inspiring vision for climate action commensurate with the scale of the problem–have nothing to do with Greenpeace’s positions and should not be reported as such. Mr. Moore frequently cites a long-ago affiliation with Greenpeace to gain legitimacy in the media, and media outlets often either state or imply that Mr. Moore still represents Greenpeace. He does not.”

For more information on Patrick Moore’s history with Greenpeace, please visit:

Patrick Moore background information | Greenpeace International
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This Patrick Moore stuff comes up at least once a year here.
 
Moderate Right said:
and climate change is not a problem


Greenpeace co-founder tears into '''pompous little twit''' Ocasio-Cortez'''s Green New Deal [Video]
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Can't have too many AOC threads.

So you agree with him? I do too. Her plan isn't a realistic alternative to fossil fuels.

Do you agree with Greenpeace's mission, which is "Greenpeace will never stop fighting for a greener, healthier world for our oceans, forests, food, climate, and democracy—no matter what forces stand in our way." The Republicans don't seem to. The Republicans, via Trump, rolled back Obama's regulations that Greenpeace supported.
 
azgreg said:
Greenpeace replies:



This Patrick Moore stuff comes up at least once a year here.
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Woah! So Fox News is promoting him as something he isn't, and the rubes buy into it.

Moore is making the rounds on Fox. He also gave an interview with Breitbart. Oh why do people make this so easy?
 
tres borrachos said:
Can't have too many AOC threads.

So you agree with him? I do too. Her plan isn't a realistic alternative to fossil fuels.

Do you agree with Greenpeace's mission, which is "Greenpeace will never stop fighting for a greener, healthier world for our oceans, forests, food, climate, and democracy—no matter what forces stand in our way." The Republicans don't seem to. The Republicans, via Trump, rolled back Obama's regulations that Greenpeace supported.
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Greenpeace has been taken over by extremists. I am for doing what we can to help the environment without harming employers, employees, and spending ungodly amounts of money to fight a battle we can't win anyway. And, I'm not for the US spending a disproportionate amount of money to fight it. It's a dishonest argument to ask, "Are you for the environment"? I'm also for peace on Earth too but they are both nothing but fantasies. We need to look at realities, not fantasies.
 
Moore has been shilling for the fossil fuel industry for decades, using his "green" credentials from a brief employment with Greenpeace which ended in 1986. He joined the organisation as a deck hand a year after it was formed. Hardly a founder.
 
azgreg said:
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This Patrick Moore stuff comes up at least once a year here.
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He never said he "still represents" the lying fools who are nothing more than leftist shills for the UN CO2 Income Redistribution $cam, at this point .

He said he was a FOUNDER, and he WAS, the ONLY ACTUAL ECOLOGIST (PhD) of the BUNCH:



According to Greenpeace: How a Group of Ecologists, Journalists, and Visionaries Changed the World by Rex Wyler, the Don't Make a Wave Committee was formed in January 1970 by Dorothy and Irving Stowe, Ben Metcalfe, Marie and Jim Bohlen, Paul Cote, and Bob Hunter and incorporated in October 1970.[9] The Committee had formed to plan opposition to the testing of a one megaton hydrogen bomb in 1969 by the United States Atomic Energy Commission on Amchitka Island in the Aleutians. Moore joined the committee in 1971 and, as Greenpeace co-founder Bob Hunter wrote, "Moore was quickly accepted into the inner circle on the basis of his scientific background, his reputation [as an environmental activist], and his ability to inject practical, no-nonsense insights into the discussions."[10]

Moore traveled to Alaska on advanced research with Jim Bohlen, attending Wave Committee meetings. In 1971, Moore was a member of the crew of the Phyllis Cormack, a chartered fishing boat which the Committee sent across the North Pacific in order to draw attention to the US testing of a 5 megaton bomb planned for September of that year. Greenpeace was the name given to the boat for the voyage and it would be the first of the many Greenpeace protests.[11] Following the first voyage, key crew members decided to formally change the name of the Don't Make a Wave Committee to the Greenpeace Foundation. These decision makers included founders Bob Hunter, Rod Marining and Ben Metcalfe as well as Patrick Moore.

Patrick Moore (consultant) - Wikipedia
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Moore has been shilling for the fossil fuel industry for decades, using his "green" credentials from a brief employment with Greenpeace which ended in 1986. He joined the organisation as a deck hand a year after it was formed. Hardly a founder.
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This statement is what we call "a lie."

[h=2]Greenpeace lies to save the planet — erasing Patrick Moore again[/h]
Donald Trump quoted Patrick Moore this week — the skeptic with an ecology PhD who was once a Founder of Greenpeace. So Greenpeace leapt to do some damage control on their brandname and created more damage instead. They promptly tweeted that he was never a founder and is a paid lobbyist. (And what is Greenpeace anyway if not paid lobbyists?)
If they’ll lie about their own history, what won’t they lie about?
Thanks to Anthony Watts for finding the tweet and reminding us of things we posted long ago.
[h=4]Greenpeace tweet in 2019:[/h]
Patrick Moore was not a co-founder. Greenpeace Tweet.
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[h=4]Greenpeace history page in 2007:[/h]Patrick was not only one of the first five, but he was their only scientist.
The Greenpeace site on February 25th, 2007. (Click to Enlarge) @Greenpeaceusa
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For 40 years of Greenpeace history Patrick Moore was called one of the five founders of Greenpeace. He traveled on the first Greenpeace boat trip. Thanks to the Wayback Machine we know that sometime in March 2007 he fell off the Founders list.
Just Greenpeace copying their Soviet idols.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I hate to break it to you, but Patrick Moore is not a Greenpeace co-founder. Patrick Moore (consultant)

These days Moore is a lobbyist for pollution industries and "clear-cutters", a climate-change denier, and a Fox & Friends contributor.
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So, he is a former president of Greenpeace (liberal) Canada? Does that really change anything? He got out of Greenpeace because the loony left activists went crazy.
 
Moderate Right said:
So, he is a former president of Greenpeace (liberal) Canada? Does that really change anything? He got out of Greenpeace because the loony left activists went crazy.
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Yes. Your Fox article falsely claimed Moore was a Greenpeace "co-founder". He wasn't.

That's fake news.

And today, Moore is the antithesis of Greenpeace. He's a lobbyist for polluting industries and logging "clear-cut" corporations.
 
Manc Skipper said:
He's not from Greenpeace. He's been trading on his brief connection for forty years.
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That Greenpeace lie is easily exposed.

[h=2]Greenpeace lies to save the planet — erasing Patrick Moore again[/h]
Donald Trump quoted Patrick Moore this week — the skeptic with an ecology PhD who was once a Founder of Greenpeace. So Greenpeace leapt to do some damage control on their brandname and created more damage instead. They promptly tweeted that he was never a founder and is a paid lobbyist. (And what is Greenpeace anyway if not paid lobbyists?)
If they’ll lie about their own history, what won’t they lie about?
Thanks to Anthony Watts for finding the tweet and reminding us of things we posted long ago.
[h=4]Greenpeace tweet in 2019:[/h]
Patrick Moore was not a co-founder. Greenpeace Tweet.
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[h=4]Greenpeace history page in 2007:[/h]Patrick was not only one of the first five, but he was their only scientist.
The Greenpeace site on February 25th, 2007. (Click to Enlarge) @Greenpeaceusa
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For 40 years of Greenpeace history Patrick Moore was called one of the five founders of Greenpeace. He traveled on the first Greenpeace boat trip. Thanks to the Wayback Machine we know that sometime in March 2007 he fell off the Founders list.
Just Greenpeace copying their Soviet idols.
 
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