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Pelosi Admits There's Nothing Compelling, Overwhelming, Or Bipartisan Enough To Impeach Trump For

You're once again confusing me with Donald Trump. He's the one who desperately wanted Hillary Clinton to be President. In fact, he's on record telling the entire world what a great President she would make.

Unlike Trump, I never supported Clinton. That's why I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016. I'm not stupid, like Trump is. You all support and worship a Clinton fan.

Try to fail less, if that's even possible - and we know it isn't possible.
Given time, you will get over Trump defeating the hildabeast.

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Given time, you will get over Trump defeating the hildabeast.

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But when will you get over it? I mean..when do you start holding the President accountable for his actions... rather than excuse everything he does.. with a "but but but but Hillary and the democrats".?

If Obama had banned bump stocks....would you have said "I agree with that..its a good idea to ban things that were previously legal and make people destroy their property without compensation"??

If OBama was thwarted from spending money because the Congress failed to say fund universal healthcare... and he decided to declared a healthcare crisis and a national emergency.. would have supported it because "hey its not a violation of the constitution"..

Or would you be screaming in the streets that it was a violation of the constitution?

If Obama was kissing butt with leaders like Putin and Kim.. and contradicting US intelligence agencies... would you have been supporting Obama?

I know I. and I know that Tres can say unequivocally.. we both would criticize both Obama for those actions. AND we would criticize trump as well.

So.. please explain to us..why you can't hold Trump to the same standard you held Obama...



Think about that for a long while.
 
There are more than enough crimes for an impeachment but there is no reason the House cannot investigate those crimes and reveal them to the American people first. We will let the people decide and when enough of them are clamoring for impeachment it will begin. The Senate Reps. will realize there is more to lose by supporting Trump and the Constitution will be followed.

But but but Mueller is already investigating, over two years and 30 million dollars. Don't you trust his abilities? Why the need for more investigations?
 
But when will you get over it? I mean..when do you start holding the President accountable for his actions... rather than excuse everything he does.. with a "but but but but Hillary and the democrats".?

If Obama had banned bump stocks....would you have said "I agree with that..its a good idea to ban things that were previously legal and make people destroy their property without compensation"??

If OBama was thwarted from spending money because the Congress failed to say fund universal healthcare... and he decided to declared a healthcare crisis and a national emergency.. would have supported it because "hey its not a violation of the constitution"..

Or would you be screaming in the streets that it was a violation of the constitution?

If Obama was kissing butt with leaders like Putin and Kim.. and contradicting US intelligence agencies... would you have been supporting Obama?

I know I. and I know that Tres can say unequivocally.. we both would criticize both Obama for those actions. AND we would criticize trump as well.

So.. please explain to us..why you can't hold Trump to the same standard you held Obama...



Think about that for a long while.

Well, everyone has their good points and their bad points. I personally backed Obama on decisions he made that I was OK with and I defended him from the far right's utter nonsense such as the birther thing, to name just one (hell, I voted for him in 2012). I also attack Obama for things I did not agree with, including to bypass the Republican Congress and the will of the people with EO's after Democrats lost power. He also irritated the crap out of me that whenever he wanted to add money to the national debt, he called in an investment. He never spent a dime (lol), it was always an investment.

Trump has some good points and some bad points. But, the rabid TDS infected left never give Trump any credit for anything. Nothing. Not one thing. And, people like that, including Tres, need to be attacked if all they can do is attack Trump 100% of the time. It is their belief that Trump is all bad, 100%. They are no better than anyone who defends Trump 100% of the time. But, anyone who defends Trump at all, ever, is labeled a Trump drone supporter.

By the way, you made some good points.
 
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But but but Mueller is already investigating, over two years and 30 million dollars. Don't you trust his abilities? Why the need for more investigations?

LOL I think it was your side that kept saying Mueller is ONLY charged with investigating Russian interference and collusion by the Trump campaign. There are other things that Trump and his cabinet has done in office that are questionable too. Then there is the Trump business and those shady dealings are also fair game for Congress to investigate.
 
LOL I think it was your side that kept saying Mueller is ONLY charged with investigating Russian interference and collusion by the Trump campaign. There are other things that Trump and his cabinet has done in office that are questionable too. Then there is the Trump business and those shady dealings are also fair game for Congress to investigate.

How do you know? You're just hoping.
 
But when will you get over it? I mean..when do you start holding the President accountable for his actions... rather than excuse everything he does.. with a "but but but but Hillary and the democrats".?

I hold every president accountable for their actions. And in regards to President Trump, that's the part you libruls either do not get or refuse to admit that you get. I have a wish list before any president takes office, especially on the conservative side. My list going into the 2016 election included such things as tax cuts, both individual and corporate, bringing manufacturing jobs back to the USA from overseas, renegotiating Nafta(which was an utter economic disaster for business in my region), getting the USA out of that insanely stupid Neville Chamberlain level Iran Nuke Agreement, getting the USA out of the Paris Climate Accord(for which the US taxpayers were footing most of the bill), turning back ISIS, stopping the insane fat boy in North Korea from testing ICBMs and nukes, and Repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Trump has either accomplished or is working on everything on that list. I am proud to hold him accountable.

If Obama had banned bump stocks....would you have said "I agree with that..its a good idea to ban things that were previously legal and make people destroy their property without compensation"??

First, I did not know the damn things existed(bump stocks) until that idiot shot up the outdoor concert in Vegas. Second, I don't think they were ever truly legal at least since fully automatic weapons were outlawed unless you had a federal license around the time of the prohibition era. Any add on that turns a semi auto into a fully auto weapon was not likely legal. And yes I would have agreed if Obama had similarly banned them.

If OBama was thwarted from spending money because the Congress failed to say fund universal healthcare... and he decided to declared a healthcare crisis and a national emergency.. would have supported it because "hey its not a violation of the constitution"..

That is a very poor attempt at a strawman argument.

Or would you be screaming in the streets that it was a violation of the constitution?

Obama in fact did violate the constitution in many ways with Obamacare. First and foremost was the individual mandate. Passing out exemptions to his friends in the labor unions and others who donated to his campaigns was also illegal. He basically changed the law that was passed through executive orders.



If Obama was kissing butt with leaders like Putin and Kim.. and contradicting US intelligence agencies... would you have been supporting Obama?

Obama was kissing Putins butt. You must recall that moment when he though he was off mic where he told the Russioan ambassador: "Tell Putin that I can be much more flexible after re-election."


I know I. and I know that Tres can say unequivocally.. we both would criticize both Obama for those actions. AND we would criticize trump as well.

So.. please explain to us..why you can't hold Trump to the same standard you held Obama...



Think about that for a long while.

Criticism is one thing. Ankle biting hatred is another.
 
Well, everyone has their good points and their bad points. I personally backed Obama on decisions he made that I was OK with and I defended him from the far right's utter nonsense such as the birther thing, to name just one (hell, I voted for him in 2012). I also attack Obama for things I did not agree with, including to bypass the Republican Congress and the will of the people with EO's after Democrats lost power. He also irritated the crap out of me that whenever he wanted to add money to the national debt, he called in an investment. He never spent a dime (lol), it was always an investment.

Trump has some good points and some bad points. But, the rabid TDS infected left never give Trump any credit for anything. Nothing. Not one thing. And, people like that, including Tres, need to be attacked if all they can do is attack Trump 100% of the time. It is their belief that Trump is all bad, 100%. They are no better than anyone who defends Trump 100% of the time. But, anyone who defends Trump at all, ever, is labeled a Trump drone supporter.

By the way, you made some good points.

Let me get this straight..

So.. if you point out with facts.. the poor decisions or bad things that a politician has done...

YOU MUST.. then also in every post.. point out the GOOD things that a politician has done..

Otherwise.. it invalidates the facts about the poor decisions????

Please explain that..
 
Let me get this straight..

So.. if you point out with facts.. the poor decisions or bad things that a politician has done...

YOU MUST.. then also in every post.. point out the GOOD things that a politician has done..

Otherwise.. it invalidates the facts about the poor decisions????

Please explain that..

The point is, these select few people have said over and over that Trump has no good points or has nothing good that can be said about him. Therefore, they are just partisan trolls and their opinions are nothing but the opinions of partisan trolls and are therefore a pile of dung.
 
I hold every president accountable for their actions. And in regards to President Trump, that's the part you libruls either do not get or refuse to admit that you get. I have a wish list before any president takes office, especially on the conservative side. My list going into the 2016 election included such things as tax cuts, both individual and corporate, bringing manufacturing jobs back to the USA from overseas, renegotiating Nafta(which was an utter economic disaster for business in my region), getting the USA out of that insanely stupid Neville Chamberlain level Iran Nuke Agreement, getting the USA out of the Paris Climate Accord(for which the US taxpayers were footing most of the bill), turning back ISIS, stopping the insane fat boy in North Korea from testing ICBMs and nukes, and Repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Trump has either accomplished or is working on everything on that list. I am proud to hold him accountable.

While ignoring the deficit.. which you criticized OBama for.

Failing to repeal and replace obamacare.. Since trump has offered ZERO plan.

Manufacturing jobs continue to go overseas.. and the trade wars and tariffs have not helped.

Banning bump stocks

Doing an end run around the constitution.. etc..

At the end of the day.. you are not holding the president responsible.

Certainly not for the things you help Obama accountable for.

First, I did not know the damn things existed(bump stocks) until that idiot shot up the outdoor concert in Vegas..

Bingo.. hundreds of thousands of them out there.. and no idea they existed... pretty good evidence that they are not a threat.

Obama in fact did violate the constitution in many ways with Obamacare. First and foremost was the individual mandate. Passing out exemptions to his friends in the labor unions and others who donated to his campaigns was also illegal. He basically changed the law that was passed through executive orders.

the individual mandate was constitutional.. and was even found to be so by the supreme court. And what
exemptions.. were passed out to the labor unions.

By the way trump has basically changed the law through executive orders as well.

Obama was kissing Putins butt. You must recall that moment when he though he was off mic where he told the Russioan ambassador: "Tell Putin that I can be much more flexible after re-election."

Hmmm... just a few trump quotes:


Every time he sees me, he says, ‘I didn’t do that,’ and I really believe… he means it." - On speaking with Putin about alleged Russian interference in the US election.
2. "Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!" - On who is to blame for the deterioration of Russia-US relations.


3. “So I have NATO, I have the U.K. - which is somewhat in turmoil. And I have Putin. Frankly, Putin may be the easiest of them all. Who would think? Who would think?” - On meetings with Putin and Theresa May in July 2018.

Oh and my personal favorite:

There are a lot of killers. Do you think our country is so innocent? Do you think our country is so innocent?" - On whether Putin is a killer.

Dude.. not only does trump contradict what our US intelligence services say.. publically by the way... he actually excuses Putins body count by BLAMING THE US.

Pucker up comrade..

Criticism is one thing. Ankle biting hatred is another

You should look at your own posts. "obamacarefail"...
 
The point is, these select few people have said over and over that Trump has no good points or has nothing good that can be said about him. Therefore, they are just partisan trolls and their opinions are nothing but the opinions of partisan trolls and are therefore a pile of dung.

Okay..so.. again.. you are a partisan troll.. if you can;t support trump in some way? Really?

I mean.. okay.. what if a politicians was absolutely horrible..the things he did were so hurtful to the country.. and you felt he needed to be voted out of office.

Could I claim you were partisan.. because though you had say 50 things that were factually verifiable bad things for the country..

if you could not say one thing good about the politician.. all those 50 things.. go away... 50 factual things.. go away and I can dismiss you as a partisan troll?

Thing about that.. you are dismissing out of hand. ALL THE FACTUAL INFORMATION... because why? The person doesn;t say a nice thing about the politician?


You just have to explain how you go about dismissing all the factual information.. as "partisan troll"... when that factual information is verifiable..

But you dismiss it all.. because "well.. they didn;t say one nice thing"..

Please explain how that's logical.
 
Okay..so.. again.. you are a partisan troll.. if you can;t support trump in some way? Really?

I mean.. okay.. what if a politicians was absolutely horrible..the things he did were so hurtful to the country.. and you felt he needed to be voted out of office.

Could I claim you were partisan.. because though you had say 50 things that were factually verifiable bad things for the country..

if you could not say one thing good about the politician.. all those 50 things.. go away... 50 factual things.. go away and I can dismiss you as a partisan troll?

Thing about that.. you are dismissing out of hand. ALL THE FACTUAL INFORMATION... because why? The person doesn;t say a nice thing about the politician?


You just have to explain how you go about dismissing all the factual information.. as "partisan troll"... when that factual information is verifiable..

But you dismiss it all.. because "well.. they didn;t say one nice thing"..

Please explain how that's logical.

Yes. If they are only partisan trolls then they are only partisan trolls. There are both good and bad things to say about everyone. These select few don't believe there is anything good to say about Trump, not one thing. As such, their opinions aren't worth one dime, just as far right extremist whackos opinions regarding Obama weren't worth one dime. They should be totally ignored. They only have one purpose, attack the other side. They are not interested in honest debate.
 
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While ignoring the deficit.. which you criticized OBama for.

Failing to repeal and replace obamacare.. Since trump has offered ZERO plan.

Manufacturing jobs continue to go overseas.. and the trade wars and tariffs have not helped.

Banning bump stocks

Doing an end run around the constitution.. etc..

At the end of the day.. you are not holding the president responsible.

Certainly not for the things you help Obama accountable for.



Bingo.. hundreds of thousands of them out there.. and no idea they existed... pretty good evidence that they are not a threat.



the individual mandate was constitutional.. and was even found to be so by the supreme court. And what
exemptions.. were passed out to the labor unions.

By the way trump has basically changed the law through executive orders as well.



Hmmm... just a few trump quotes:




Oh and my personal favorite:



Dude.. not only does trump contradict what our US intelligence services say.. publically by the way... he actually excuses Putins body count by BLAMING THE US.

Pucker up comrade..



You should look at your own posts. "obamacarefail"...

I stopped reading at "Failed to offer an alternative to Obamacare." The skinny repeal bill that Senator John "Turd" McCain shot down would have started the process of both parties working on an alternative. That was the intention.
 
I stopped reading at "Failed to offer an alternative to Obamacare." The skinny repeal bill that Senator John "Turd" McCain shot down would have started the process of both parties working on an alternative. That was the intention.

The GOP told us they started that process in 2010.
 
Yes. If they are only partisan trolls then they are only partisan trolls. There are both good and bad things to say about everyone. These select few don't believe there is anything good to say about Trump, not one thing. As such, their opinions aren't worth one dime, just as far right extremist whackos opinions regarding Obama weren't worth one dime. They should be totally ignored. They only have one purpose, attack the other side. They are not interested in honest debate.

So in other words.. you dismiss factual information.. because if that FACTUAL information is all negative.. then that factual information should be dismissed?

that is not logical.
 
I stopped reading at "Failed to offer an alternative to Obamacare." The skinny repeal bill that Senator John "Turd" McCain shot down would have started the process of both parties working on an alternative. That was the intention.

"started both parties on an alternative"...

Dude.. did you just read your own post. you just admitted that he failed to have an alternative to obamacare.

By the way.. if Obamacare had been repealed without a replacement. the economy would have taken a crapper.. because the healthcare industry would have suffered a hit probably greater than the great recession.
Anyone who voted for repeal of obamacare.. without a replacement.. proved themselves to be completely ignorant of obamacare and of healthcare.

Do you realize the millions of americans with MEDICARE.. would have lost benefits, and had their healthcare pulled out from under them? Obamacare was a massive law.. that dealt with how Medicare was taken care of.. how Medicaid.. was taken care of.. not to mention private insurance etc...
 
"started both parties on an alternative"...

Dude.. did you just read your own post. you just admitted that he failed to have an alternative to obamacare.

You should try reading a post and thinking objectively without preconceived notions.

By the way.. if Obamacare had been repealed without a replacement. the economy would have taken a crapper.. because the healthcare industry would have suffered a hit probably greater than the great recession.

Utter partisan motivated nonsense. Even full repeal of Obamacare would not have ended health insurance. We would have merely ended up with what we had before that insanely stupid AHA(obamacare) had passed. And the skinny repeal bill would have basically doen the following:

"Eliminate the individual mandate, which requires all Americans to have health insurance or face a penalty. (fortunately that ultimately passed)

Remove the employer mandate, the requirement that companies with 50 or more full-time employees must provide health insurance or pay a fine

Repeal the so-called cadillac tax, an excise tax on expensive insurance plans offered by employers that is due to go into effect in 2020. (I think that has since been repealed)

Anyone who voted for repeal of obamacare.. without a replacement.. proved themselves to be completely ignorant of obamacare and of healthcare."

You are voicing that out of your own ignorance of what was offered in the skinny repeal bill.

Do you realize the millions of americans with MEDICARE.. would have lost benefits, and had their healthcare pulled out from under them? Obamacare was a massive law.. that dealt with how Medicare was taken care of.. how Medicaid.. was taken care of.. not to mention private insurance etc...

More utter nonsense. The skinny repeal bill would have left the medicaid expansion in place. And the only effect on Medicare would be perhaps the return of the hundreds of billions of dollars to Medicare that Obama embezzled to help fund Obamacare. As for private care, we have been over this in the past, however you are speaking to someone very negatively affected by Obamacare. I had good health insurance with a deductible I could live with prior to the passage of Obamacare. Once the mandates took effect my policy was cancelled.I could have signed up for another policy, however at a minimum it would have cost me three times as much in monthly premiums and 5 times the deductible. The premiums would have dwarfed my home mortgage payments. I fled to VA Healthcare.
 
So in other words.. you dismiss factual information.. because if that FACTUAL information is all negative.. then that factual information should be dismissed?

that is not logical.

Anyone who is nothing but a purely partisan troll can't expect anything they say to be taken seriously. If they want to be taken seriously then they should be bipartisan.
 
Anyone who is nothing but a purely partisan troll can't expect anything they say to be taken seriously. If they want to be taken seriously then they should be bipartisan.

That's the point I was trying to make to him. Any replacement should Be something both sides and the American people can live with. Skinny repeal was proposed with that in mind. Obamacare was the biggest failure in healthcare legislation in my lifetime, primarily becuase it was what Obama and the democrats wanted without regard to those represented by both parties.
 
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