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Democrats promise utopia

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To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.
 
To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.

But can the other side deliver commas?
 
Democrats gave us Russia, Germany and China?

Who knew?


Thank you, brother. I see the light.
 
Do the real members of the democrat party understand these lies of utopia by the left is destroying your party.
 
To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.

Why do you support a Marxist USA?
 
All of this socialist utopia talk, the supporting of killing babies before during and after birth, the hatred of Jewish people, and high taxes and stupid regulations are destroying any hope of a democrat win in 2020.

I guess we republicans and real Americans should be happy these radical socialist exist in the democrat party.
 
Lulz. That's exactly what I'd expect a Marxist to post, comrade.

No it is these ignorant socialist like Bernie AOC and others that claim they are not promoting communism 101.
 
All of this socialist utopia talk, the supporting of killing babies before during and after birth, the hatred of Jewish people, and high taxes and stupid regulations are destroying any hope of a democrat win in 2020.

I guess we republicans and real Americans should be happy these radical socialist exist in the democrat party.

Have some potato with that cooking sherry.
 
All of this socialist utopia talk, the supporting of killing babies before during and after birth, the hatred of Jewish people, and high taxes and stupid regulations are destroying any hope of a democrat win in 2020.

I guess we republicans and real Americans should be happy these radical socialist exist in the democrat party.

You're just reading off of Google Image search now, after searching "Dumbass Conservative Memes", aren't you....
 
All of this socialist utopia talk, the supporting of killing babies before during and after birth, the hatred of Jewish people, and high taxes and stupid regulations are destroying any hope of a democrat win in 2020.

I guess we republicans and real Americans should be happy these radical socialist exist in the democrat party.

You, a "real" American?


:lamo
 
All of this socialist utopia talk, the supporting of killing babies before during and after birth, the hatred of Jewish people, and high taxes and stupid regulations are destroying any hope of a democrat win in 2020.

I guess we republicans and real Americans should be happy these radical socialist exist in the democrat party.

Woah. You're in full projection mode eh? It was Trump who publicly supported Neo Nazis after Charlottesville...and you support Trump, right? And you and Trump are Republicans....right...NOT Democrats?

Or are you unaware of what the Nazis did during WW II?
 
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To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.

No they don't, that's just the dumb right making **** up democrats don't actually say because right wingers have no fact, logic and reasoning and can't actually refute democratic positions

I don't know who you right wingers think you are fooling posting such stupidity. The idiots that would buy it would do so regardless of whether you inundate every stupid message baord with this stupidity
 
Venezuela!!!!!! The alt-right replaces Cuba as their new whipping boi!
 
To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.

:lamo
That's funny stuff, coming from the radical Fascist conservatives, isn't it? People who equate Democrats to Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, etc...are ignorant. You people can't define Socialism, much less differentiate it from Communism.

First, everyone understands that Nazism was fascism, not socialism. That's just not arguable...and fasist right-wingers who DO try to argue it, are not to be taken seriously.

Secondly, Russia was a communist, not socialist, society throughout most of the 20th century.

Thirdly, China was a right-wing fascist authoritarian government (under Chiang Kai-shek, among others) before about 1945....then a left-wing communist authoritarian government (under Mao Zedong, among others) after about 1945.

By most accounts, Communism (which is left wing) has killed more people than Fascism (which is right wing)... around the world, by a factor of about 4. Communism has also been more prominent than Fascism in history, by about the same factor of 4. So that's not where the link to inhumanity, death, destruction and general loss of freedom and individuality is found. What history has shown, over and over and over again....is that AUTHORITARIANISM and TOTALITARIANISM always...ALWAYS lead to catastrophic deeds of inhumanity. It's not a left-right thing. It's a power thing. Hitler and Mussolini, et al. were right-wing fascist authoritarian dictators. Stalin and Mao (et al.) were left-wing communist authoritarian dictators. These are not arguable, and those who attempt to do so are simply not to be taken seriously.

As for "utopia"....the quoted opinion, above, was just laughably ignorant.

If anything, it would be more accurate to say that the "utopia" promised by fascist GOP'ers involves promises to turn the clock back half-a-century on social progress...bring back water-boarding and make it official U.S. policy...establish a federal commission to ban Islam in the US...deport 12-15 million undocumented immigrants and their American children...etc. etc. The agenda of fascist republicans is very much akin to Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy) Chiang Kai-shek (China), Vichy France, Tojo (Japan), and others.
 
To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.

Like most americans, you sound very confused. Dictatorship and socialism are very different things. Dictatorships employ socialist measures yes, but they are not socialist countries. Example. France is a typical socialist country employing socialist policies, like government homes etc. Venezuela is a dictatorship using badly implemented socialist policies, which failed because...they were badly implemented by clueless people who fail to understand basic economy. Venezuela is not a socialist country because in a socialist country, the government makes sure most people lead decent lives, whereas in Venezuela only a fraction of the population lives decent lives, whereas the majority of people suffer. This is the opposite of socialism- Venezuela is a plain old dictatorship, like N. Korea etc.

The US is a capitalist country, but you also have numerous socialist policies. Example: huge agricultural subsidies, food stamps, public bailouts of private banks etc, free government homes etc. In many ways the US is more socialist than some socialist countries, which is absurd.

Last but not least, americans also confuse "socialism" with "communism". Again, different things. I believe history has made a big mistake by identifying dictatorships like say the USSR as comunism. The USSR was a dictatorship, never a communist country as a communist country is defined in the Communist Manifesto. But dictatorships like the USSR liked to identify themselves as being communist because that was the only way of legitimizing having people like Stalin in charge. Anyway, as a "communist dictatoship", communist countries had no choice but to employ socialist policies, even going to the extreme, like the abolition of private property. This was an excelent cover-up for the process of consolidation of the state and of the dictatorship itself. Stalin was no communist, he was just an average psycho and control freak. As such, the USSR was never ruled by the working class like the communists wanted, there was an elite in charge of the government and the whole state/government was controled by one person, which around ww2 happened to be Stalin. That`s the difference between a dictatorship and communism.

The idea that socialism/communism spreads by taking away people`s guns or by having a socialized healthcare system is laughable. It never happened and never will. If you read any history book, you will see that dictatorships happen in two ways:
a. Your country is invaded by a foreign power, example USSR or Nazi Germany.
b. Your country is taken over from within by a heavily armed minority who wants to install a dictator- example USSR, Nazi Germany, Cuba, Napoleon France etc.

The only way the US will ever become a dictatorship is if and when some gun owners(example NRA members) decide one day to forget about the elections and instal someone(example Trump) as president for life. Which is possible, but unlikely, since the US has a huge army and weapons arsenal. No amount of privately owned guns can prevent the US army from wipping out 8/10 of the US population in 24 hours. If the heads of the army choose sides- say the NRA side, then you have a dictatorship(like Napoleon France). If the army chooses to protect the Constitution, then democracy is saved(East Europe revolutions in 1989).

One more thing: the US healthcare is already a socialised system, just not in the right way. In order to have access to medical services, americans pay insurance. Insurance is nothing more than a pool of money from which private entities draw money to make people healthy. It`s the same process as in a socialist country but unlike a socialist country, in the US the pool of money is managed not by the government, but by private entities. And because of that healthcare in the US is far from being affordable. It only makes sense, if the system is being handled by corporations for a profit and people`s lives depend on healthcare, this only leads to a constant increase of these services. Not because they can`t be cheaper, but because corporations want bigger profits.
 
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Like most americans, you sound very confused. Dictatorship and socialism are very different things. Dictatorships employ socialist measures yes, but they are not socialist countries. Example. France is a typical socialist country employing socialist policies, like government homes etc. Venezuela is a dictatorship using badly implemented socialist policies, which failed because...they were badly implemented by clueless people who fail to understand basic economy. Venezuela is not a socialist country because in a socialist country, the government makes sure most people lead decent lives, whereas in Venezuela only a fraction of the population lives decent lives, whereas the majority of people suffer. This is the opposite of socialism- Venezuela is a plain old dictatorship, like N. Korea etc.

The US is a capitalist country, but you also have numerous socialist policies. Example: huge agricultural subsidies, food stamps, public bailouts of private banks etc, free government homes etc. In many ways the US is more socialist than some socialist countries, which is absurd.

Last but not least, americans also confuse "socialism" with "communism". Again, different things. I believe history has made a big mistake by identifying dictatorships like say the USSR as comunism. The USSR was a dictatorship, never a communist country as a communist country is defined in the Communist Manifesto. But dictatorships like the USSR liked to identify themselves as being communist because that was the only way of legitimizing having people like Stalin in charge. Anyway, as a "communist dictatoship", communist countries had no choice but to employ socialist policies, even going to the extreme, like the abolition of private property. This was an excelent cover-up for the process of consolidation of the state and of the dictatorship itself. Stalin was no communist, he was just an average psycho and control freak. As such, the USSR was never ruled by the working class like the communists wanted, there was an elite in charge of the government and the whole state/government was controled by one person, which around ww2 happened to be Stalin. That`s the difference between a dictatorship and communism.

The idea that socialism/communism spreads by taking away people`s guns or by having a socialized healthcare system is laughable. It never happened and never will. If you read any history book, you will see that dictatorships happen in two ways:
a. Your country is invaded by a foreign power, example USSR or Nazi Germany.
b. Your country is taken over from within by a heavily armed minority who wants to install a dictator- example USSR, Nazi Germany, Cuba, Napoleon France etc.

The only way the US will ever become a dictatorship is if and when some gun owners(example NRA members) decide one day to forget about the elections and instal someone(example Trump) as president for life. Which is possible, but unlikely, since the US has a huge army and weapons arsenal. No amount of privately owned guns can prevent the US army from wipping out 8/10 of the US population in 24 hours. If the heads of the army choose sides- say the NRA side, then you have a dictatorship(like Napoleon France). If the army chooses to protect the Constitution, then democracy is saved(East Europe revolutions in 1989).

One more thing: the US healthcare is already a socialised system, just not in the right way. In order to have access to medical services, americans pay insurance. Insurance is nothing more than a pool of money from which private entities draw money to make people healthy. It`s the same process as in a socialist country but unlike a socialist country, in the US the pool of money is managed not by the government, but by private entities. And because of that healthcare in the US is far from being affordable. It only makes sense, if the system is being handled by corporations for a profit and people`s lives depend on healthcare, this only leads to a constant increase of these services. Not because they can`t be cheaper, but because corporations want bigger profits.
Socialism almost always ends up in a dictatorship. Look at Venezuela.
 
Socialism almost always ends up in a dictatorship. Look at Venezuela.

Sure. Almost always. Which you prove by listing a single country.

I'll see your single country and I'll raise you Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand and Belgium.
 
Why do you support a Marxist USA?

Spartacus was a favorite of Karl Marx, and Spartacus Booker, like Baby Cortez, is also a shiny new member of the new green democrat party.
 
To hear them talk the radical socialist of the democrat party promise to deliver utopia. But they have always delivered Venezuela. They have also given us Russia Germany and China that took away all the peoples guns and ended up killing nearly 100 million of their people.

Dont listen to their pie in the sky promises.

FDR's promises are not socialism nor are the "radical". They actually did bring a kind of "utopia" for our postwar middle class. We have strayed too far from those promises and we need to swing the pendulum back.
 
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