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    Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Compelled speech - Wikipedia

    Do you think forcing citizens to vote between a limited number of parties/candidates in elections would qualify as coerced speech? (or, by association, coerced expression?)

    Here in Australia, voting is mandatory and the deviation between the major parties is marginal. If there are no candidates or parties who closely represent you or who you strongly relate with, you still need to vote for one.

    Ignoring the fact that this means many parties win free votes by simple top-of-mind strategies among clueless or uninterested voters, would you agree that this is a form of coerced expression?

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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    That problem could be fixed by including "none of the above" for each ballot position.
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That problem could be fixed by including "none of the above" for each ballot position.
    Offering another choice does nto "fix" the compelling nature of forcing you to choose.
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Offering another choice does nto "fix" the compelling nature of forcing you to choose.
    It's the same as choosing not to vote.
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It's the same as choosing not to vote.
    The effect is irrelevant to the fact that you are being compelled to vote regardless of the option you choose.
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Compelled speech - Wikipedia

    Do you think forcing citizens to vote between a limited number of parties/candidates in elections would qualify as coerced speech? (or, by association, coerced expression?)

    Here in Australia, voting is mandatory and the deviation between the major parties is marginal. If there are no candidates or parties who closely represent you or who you strongly relate with, you still need to vote for one.

    Ignoring the fact that this means many parties win free votes by simple top-of-mind strategies among clueless or uninterested voters, would you agree that this is a form of coerced expression?
    In the US, mandatory voting is compelled speech (and expression.)

    The subject has come up multiple times and usually resulting from a combination of general low voter turn out and comparison to other nations. However, it stands to Constitutional reason that forcing a vote would cause a problem even if it somewhat addressed these issues of voter participation.

    Besides... Republicans would **** themselves if everyone was required to vote.
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Compelled speech - Wikipedia

    Do you think forcing citizens to vote between a limited number of parties/candidates in elections would qualify as coerced speech? (or, by association, coerced expression?)

    Here in Australia, voting is mandatory and the deviation between the major parties is marginal. If there are no candidates or parties who closely represent you or who you strongly relate with, you still need to vote for one.

    Ignoring the fact that this means many parties win free votes by simple top-of-mind strategies among clueless or uninterested voters, would you agree that this is a form of coerced expression?
    Without a doubt.
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Compelled speech - Wikipedia

    Do you think forcing citizens to vote between a limited number of parties/candidates in elections would qualify as coerced speech? (or, by association, coerced expression?)

    Here in Australia, voting is mandatory and the deviation between the major parties is marginal. If there are no candidates or parties who closely represent you or who you strongly relate with, you still need to vote for one.

    Ignoring the fact that this means many parties win free votes by simple top-of-mind strategies among clueless or uninterested voters, would you agree that this is a form of coerced expression?
    Yes, I agree.

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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    I'd rather have mandatory voting like you have there, rather than disenfranchised voters like we have here...
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    Re: Would you agree that mandatory voting is compelled speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    Compelled speech - Wikipedia

    Do you think forcing citizens to vote between a limited number of parties/candidates in elections would qualify as coerced speech? (or, by association, coerced expression?)

    Here in Australia, voting is mandatory and the deviation between the major parties is marginal. If there are no candidates or parties who closely represent you or who you strongly relate with, you still need to vote for one.

    Ignoring the fact that this means many parties win free votes by simple top-of-mind strategies among clueless or uninterested voters, would you agree that this is a form of coerced expression?
    What happens to you if you don't vote?

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