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Why is the GOP the party of criminals?

OscarLevant

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GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences than Dem administrations.

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Note that the above does not factor in Trump administration indictments, convictions, the charts were done before Trump. So, overall, it's much worse.


So, if you were serious about draining the swamp, vote for democrats.


We're better for America.
 
OscarLevant said:
GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences than Dem administrations.

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Note that the above does not factor in Trump administration indictments, convictions, the charts were done before Trump. So, overall, it's much worse.


So, if you were serious about draining the swamp, vote for democrats.


We're better for America.
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Because democrats are not prosecuted for misdeeds. Right now in WA we have an Attorney General persecuting a citizen activist on BS charges that are unconstitutional and yet he’s not been indicted. We had a state Senator on the budget committee try to extort female agency employees for funding for their departments, no criminal charges and he was allowed to resign.

The democrats political coalition is stronger, and so they rarely prosecute their own
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Because democrats are not prosecuted for misdeeds. Right now in WA we have an Attorney General persecuting a citizen activist on BS charges that are unconstitutional and yet he’s not been indicted.
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There have been democrat misdeeds prosecuted, so your premise is false.

Name one President and his first lady that have had 25 years of investigations?

Now why would republicans, after millions spent, all those investigations, not prosecute if they had,
in fact, found something they could pin on them? There is no logical reason they would not.

There is only one logical conclusion, there were no misdeeds that rose to a level a prosecutor would want to prosecute.



What is not false is the fact that GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences than Dem administrations.

It's the comparison that is being highlighted here.

Moreover, there are 17 investigations going on in the president, a level unprecented in history, and none are yet completed. There have been numerous indictments and convictions surrounding the president thus far.
 
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My guess is the Democrats are up to at least as many criminal shenanigans as the Republicans, but the Democrats are smarter about covering their tracks.

Now I wonder who that comment pissed off the most, Democratic DP members or Republican DP members. ;)
 
Skeptic Bob said:
My guess is the Democrats are up to at least as many criminal shenanigans as the Republicans, but the Democrats are smarter about covering their tracks.

Now I wonder who that comment pissed off the most, Democratic DP members or Republican DP members. ;)
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May I suggest that you not guess and stand behind a position, and back it up?
 
If you are including the Trump administration in those stats, they are automatically skewered, imo. The Trump administration is the most corrupt in my lifetime (which is long and substantial, lol), but I can honestly say that looking back, I see little difference in the "criminal" offenses between democrats and republicans, although comparing Nixon with Clinton, Nixon tilts the scales slightly toward the "more corrupt" while Clinton tips it more in the "more sleazy" scale.
 
DiAnna said:
If you are including the Trump administration in those stats, they are automatically skewered, imo. The Trump administration is the most corrupt in my lifetime (which is long and substantial, lol), but I can honestly say that looking back, I see little difference in the "criminal" offenses between democrats and republicans, although comparing Nixon with Clinton, Nixon tilts the scales slightly toward the "more corrupt" while Clinton tips it more in the "more sleazy" scale.
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Apparently the stats in the OP predate the Trump administration, which surprised me.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Apparently the stats in the OP predate the Trump administration, which surprised me.
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Whoa. Then Republicans lose, Democrats win... hands down, lol. Politicians basically suck, no matter which side of the aisle they claim, but once the Trump administration gets factored in, there's no danged contest! Guess Reagan's Iran-Contra was the "winning" formula in the OP's statistics. :lol:
 
OscarLevant said:
GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences than Dem administrations.

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Note that the above does not factor in Trump administration indictments, convictions, the charts were done before Trump. So, overall, it's much worse.


So, if you were serious about draining the swamp, vote for democrats.


We're better for America.
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Short answer, OscarLevant? And this is under the presumption that you are asking honest questions and not just engaging in some trolling before hitting the hay. With that presumption in mind, I question I would rejoin would be: What were most of the convictions for? If they were for obstruction of justice and perjury, that is because most Democratic politicians and administrative officials know when to lawyer up and exercise their Fifth and Sixth Amendment Rights to avoid obstruction of justice charges and being caught in perjury traps. Most Republicans do not.
 
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OscarLevant said:
GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences than Dem administrations.
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If the Faux News Crowd were to be believed, it is because of liberal media bias. :lol:
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The democrats political coalition is stronger, and so they rarely prosecute their own
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Ummm, what? In what fantasy world does the justice system require prosecutors to be of the same party as the accused?

And c'mon, your avatar is Joe McCarthy. You are clearly proud of your party's corruption.
 
Felis Leo said:
If they were for obstruction of justice and perjury, that is because most Democratic politicians and administrative officials know when to lawyer up and exercise their Fifth and Sixth Amendment Rights to avoid obstruction of justice charges and being caught in perjury traps. Most Republicans do not.
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So your argument is Republicans are just dumber. I don't think I can buy that.
 
Geoist said:
So your argument is Republicans are just dumber. I don't think I can buy that.
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Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. I've never seen a Republican under fire who didn't know when to get a goddamn lawyer.
 
DiAnna said:
Whoa. Then Republicans lose, Democrats win... hands down, lol. Politicians basically suck, no matter which side of the aisle they claim, but once the Trump administration gets factored in, there's no danged contest! Guess Reagan's Iran-Contra was the "winning" formula in the OP's statistics. :lol:
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The Reagan administration falls somewhere between Nixon and Trump in how just gutter awful it was.
 
DiAnna said:
If you are including the Trump administration in those stats, they are automatically skewered, imo. The Trump administration is the most corrupt in my lifetime (which is long and substantial, lol), but I can honestly say that looking back, I see little difference in the "criminal" offenses between democrats and republicans, although comparing Nixon with Clinton, Nixon tilts the scales slightly toward the "more corrupt" while Clinton tips it more in the "more sleazy" scale.
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Just before the election, Nixon sent minions to Viet Nam to undermine LBJ's peace offering. he did this because if LBJ was successful, it would assure that Nixon would lose the election. So, he told the Vietnamese to wait, and when he is in office, he will give them a better deal. So, it blew the peace plan LBJ was offering. LBJ found out about it, but didn't do anything about. He did say what Nixon did was Treason.

So, Nixon wins, and thousands of more Americans ( and south vietnamese as well ) die as he was unable to pull out until a few years later.

We'll never know if LBJ was to succeed, but I believe Nixon committed treason, and got away with it.
 
Felis Leo said:
Short answer, OscarLevant? And this is under the presumption that you are asking honest questions and not just engaging in some trolling before hitting the hay. With that presumption in mind, I question I would rejoin would be: What were most of the convictions for? If they were for obstruction of justice and perjury, that is because most Democratic politicians and administrative officials know when to lawyer up and exercise their Fifth and Sixth Amendment Rights to avoid obstruction of justice charges and being caught in perjury traps. Most Republicans do not.
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IF I didn't have confirmable facts, you could call it a troll post, But I'm backing it up with verifiable facts.

they are all real crimes and real indictments. Look them up.

I know you'd like to paint it rosey, but that's just not the color of the thing. Paint it black, as the Rolling Stones used to say.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
My guess is the Democrats are up to at least as many criminal shenanigans as the Republicans, but the Democrats are smarter about covering their tracks.

Now I wonder who that comment pissed off the most, Democratic DP members or Republican DP members. ;)
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No, I would have to say that your assumption is correct. We've seen them get let go despite actually breaking the law before. So you're pretty damn correct on that.
 
Why is the GOP the party of criminals?

Why? Because they do not like government and therefore do not like to govern. Given the opportunity to govern they will not just use it as a consequence, all they will do is use it. Its not more complicated than that.

While whining and wailing to the heavens about Socialism, they have both never understood what we are in fact and have always bent toward autocracy. Which would you determine is the greater threat to this country?

They are so out of control now that they cannot choose new toilet tissue for the WH without having the decision leak out 5 minutes after it is taken. Why... because inherently at some level there are still people that realize that there is something wholly un-American about the GOP and has been at least since the Nixon administration.
 
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OscarLevant said:
IF I didn't have confirmable facts, you could call it a troll post, But I'm backing it up with verifiable facts.

they are all real crimes and real indictments. Look them up.

I know you'd like to paint it rosey, but that's just not the color of the thing. Paint it black, as the Rolling Stones used to say.
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Actually you didn't link to a source. Which was where his assumption stemmed from.

Unless you actually have a link to where this information originates?
 
OscarLevant said:
GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences than Dem administrations.

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Note that the above does not factor in Trump administration indictments, convictions, the charts were done before Trump. So, overall, it's much worse.


So, if you were serious about draining the swamp, vote for democrats.


We're better for America.
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The majority of those were under one administration - Nixon.
 
Why is the GOP the party of criminals?

Because the GOP does not actually care for our Constitutional Republic and they certainly don't like the consequences of it. They neither understand our Constitutional Republic nor like it and cannot come to terms with the fact that we have used what they would call "socialist" programs to augment pure Capitalism in order to try to pull us out of the mess the pure Capitalists left us in. That that little item is now referred to as The Great Depression.

The GOP bends toward Autocracy and has since the Nixon era. Its so obvious now that it is plain as the nose our faces.

Again, the GOP whines about what it likes to describe as socialism because it gives them a handy term that they can simply use whenever they want to whine more. However, which would you suggest is more dangerous to the country, Autocracy as a process of rulership or Mixed Capitalism as a system of economic management and fiduciary responsibility?
 
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