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Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to de-legitimize the 2020 election

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Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to de-legitimize the 2020 election

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3/6/19
Even as the 2020 race begins in earnest, President Donald Trump is already suggesting that Democrats cannot beat him fairly -- raising the specter that if he loses next November, he will suggest that the election was not legitimate. "The Democrats in Congress yesterday were vicious and totally showed their cards for everyone to see," Trump tweeted Tuesday, referring to House Democrats' launching of a broad-scale investigation into him. All of that rhetoric fits into a very clear pattern: Convince the Trump base that it is not possible for him to lose a fair and legitimate election in 2020. Thus, if he loses, it must be, by definition, illegitimate. None of this should be surprising, given Trump's oft-stated view of the 2016 election -- in which he won the Electoral College but lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton by nearly 3 million votes. Less than three weeks after winning the White House in 2016, Trump sent out this tweet: "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally." Neither Trump nor anyone in his administration has ever provided any evidence of his claims of widespread illegality. A commission formed by Trump -- and chaired by failed Kansas gubernatorial candidate Kris Kobach -- was disbanded after less than a year. And study after study has shown that widespread voter fraud -- of the sort alleged by Trump -- simply does not exist.

So, yeah. This is straight from the Trump blueprint -- and not just in politics, either. In his past life as a businessman, Trump would regularly declare victory on a deal loudly and publicly -- even when the facts didn't bear out his bluster. Hell, he somehow spun three bankruptcies as wins for him! It's not just that Trump doesn't like losing. (No one likes losing.) It's that he is unwilling to accept any sort of loss for fear that defeat might take some of the shine off of his all-I-do-is-win persona. In the business world, that approach was mostly harmless. Trump could say whatever he wanted but, at the end of the day, it was pretty clear who won and who lost a deal. Money, usually, changed hands. And while lots of people Trump dealt with rolled their eyes about his massive exaggerations, they usually just ignored them. In politics, Trump's inability to accept that he could lose fair and square is far, far more dangerous. Michael Cohen, Trump's former longtime fixer, said as much during his congressional testimony in front of the House Oversight Committee last month. "Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power," said Cohen. Sit with that for a minute. And realize what it would mean if the sitting incumbent President of the United States simply refuses to concede he has lost in 2020.

Memo to Mr. Trump: Investigate government overreach and possible criminal activity is precisely what the House Committee on Oversight and Reform is supposed to do.

And no DJT, investigating your sleaziness does not constitute a Democrat conspiracy or coup d'etat. Those heady days of Congress enabling you ended on November 6, 2018.
 
Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to de-legitimize the 2020 election

year_in_trump.jpg




Memo to Mr. Trump: Investigate government overreach and possible criminal activity is precisely what the House Committee on Oversight and Reform is supposed to do.

And no DJT, investigating your sleaziness does not constitute a Democrat conspiracy or coup d'etat. Those heady days of Congress enabling you ended on November 6, 2018.

What a cheap, gutless punk. Imagine if Obama had done anything like this.
 
Unlike Trump and Fanboys the military chiefs and commanders would not act to destroy democracy.

They would only act to restore it.

Trump has wanted his Reichstag state of national emergency for a long time now. During the campaign Trump talked about the election being "rigged" if he lost. He quit on that only after Wikileaks dumped its stuff and Comey dumped on Clinton.

Secret Service in WH is anyway the first line of defense in respect of the Constitution. Trump would need to divide and wreck them first which is unlikely indeed. Both the armed forces and the secret service have their oath to the Constitution, i.e., We the People, not to any one person or leader. Trump is already in violation of the spirit of the Constitution. There's only the Constitution itself for Trump to violate.
 
He would have done the same thing in 2016 had he lost....then he would have stayed outside government while continuously holding rallies against the current president all the while making billions off all the people that love him.
Before it was all about money now it's about his and his families freedom of course its gonna be worse.
The wall will go away like dust and it will be illegals, voting fraud blah, blah. Same old **** different days.
 
Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to de-legitimize the 2020 election

year_in_trump.jpg




Memo to Mr. Trump: Investigate government overreach and possible criminal activity is precisely what the House Committee on Oversight and Reform is supposed to do.

And no DJT, investigating your sleaziness does not constitute a Democrat conspiracy or coup d'etat. Those heady days of Congress enabling you ended on November 6, 2018.

Don't worry your little mind over "suggestions" and "specters". Look at the actions.

Especially the actions of the Dem House, with their abuse of authority and abuse of taxpayer's money. That is exactly what Trump is talking about. They have openly exposed their agenda.
 
Don't worry your little mind over "suggestions" and "specters". Look at the actions.

Especially the actions of the Dem House, with their abuse of authority and abuse of taxpayer's money. That is exactly what Trump is talking about. They have openly exposed their agenda.

Christ, is that ever stupid.





Why do you even bother?
 
Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to de-legitimize the 2020 election

year_in_trump.jpg




Memo to Mr. Trump: Investigate government overreach and possible criminal activity is precisely what the House Committee on Oversight and Reform is supposed to do.

And no DJT, investigating your sleaziness does not constitute a Democrat conspiracy or coup d'etat. Those heady days of Congress enabling you ended on November 6, 2018.

You guys are just way too funny. It has been over two years now of the left claiming that the 2016 election was not legitimate and now you are trying to predict the future, using Cohen as you lord and savior.
 
Christ, is that ever stupid.





Why do you even bother?

No it's not stupid explain it to them....it looks large and looming because this was all left unchecked for 2 years. If the house oversight and judiciary had been doing there jobs from day 1 most if not all of this stuff would be done already and dems would have nothing to do. Its looming now and looks ominous because it's been left to swelter and sweat.
Hey when Gowdy asked for some of this stuff in the last Congress it was ignored and he decided to leave instead of issue subpoenas now things have changed and the crying starts.
 
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