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Tiki Torch Retards at Charlottsville

Virgil Jones said:
Do you realize that Republicans were the party that did not oppose the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
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Do you realize that not long ago there were plenty of conservative Democrats and lots of liberal Republicans? In my lifetime. This hyper-partisan divide is a relatively recent thing.
 
Nickyjo said:
They haven't been "democrat statues" since, oh, the mid to late 1970s, when republicans got the southern white vote and blacks turned democratic. Not too many democrats wave the stars and bars these days.
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I find your idiot history funny. You don't back it up with any facts that we republicans somehow took on your debts to society. Are you stupid. Whatever do you mean?
 
Grand Mal said:
Do you realize that not long ago there were plenty of conservative Democrats and lots of liberal Republicans? In my lifetime. This hyper-partisan divide is a relatively recent thing.
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That is the way that I grew up, with normal relations for the good of all Americans in both the GOP and the Democrat Party
 
Grand Mal said:
Do you realize that not long ago there were plenty of conservative Democrats and lots of liberal Republicans? In my lifetime. This hyper-partisan divide is a relatively recent thing.
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What is happening now is completely insane and I wish it would stop.
 
Virgil Jones said:
We are trying to preserve your democrat statues, because we want to preserve history. It is not our fault that you democrats were on the wrong side of history, then and now.
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Read about Nixon's southern strategy and get back. You must not have gotten the memo. The southern strategy worked, by the way. What do you think are the likely party affiliations of those who want to preserve/remove the statues?
 
Virgil Jones said:
That is the way that I grew up, with normal relations for the good of all Americans in both the GOP and the Democrat Party
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Right. So when you say the Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act what you actually mean is that conservatives in the Democratic Party opposed the Civil Rights Act.
 
Virgil Jones said:
I find your idiot history funny. You don't back it up with any facts that we republicans somehow took on your debts to society. Are you stupid. Whatever do you mean?
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My debts to society? What does that mean? Generally accepted history, as I suggested elsewhere, was that the "solid south" of white democrats turned republican in reaction to the civil rights movement. Look at the election maps. In 1964, Goldwater, who had opposed the Civil Rights Act, won from SC to Louisiana, plus AZ, his home state. LBJ, who signed the Act, won everything else. Those states have generally voted republican since. Doesn't mean they still do for the same reasons, of course, but as LBJ predicted, the South turned. There was a reason why Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Mississippi, and it wasn't to honor the three murdered civil rights workers. Though he appeared near where they died, he didn't mention them.
 
Virgil Jones said:
Southern Republicans did not exist at the time of the Civil War, when Republicans ended slavery.
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lol...Republicans today would never vote for Lincoln.
 
Nickyjo said:
My debts to society? What does that mean? Generally accepted history, as I suggested elsewhere, was that the "solid south" of white democrats turned republican in reaction to the civil rights movement. Look at the election maps. In 1964, Goldwater, who had opposed the Civil Rights Act, won from SC to Louisiana, plus AZ, his home state. LBJ, who signed the Act, won everything else. Those states have generally voted republican since. Doesn't mean they still do for the same reasons, of course, but as LBJ predicted, the South turned. There was a reason why Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Mississippi, and it wasn't to honor the three murdered civil rights workers. Though he appeared near where they died, he didn't mention them.
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Prove it.
 
When you accuse white people of "white privilege", as the left does these days, and accuse us of all of the world's evils, without giving credit for our great accomplishments, then a great abyss appears. I do not care what you think about republicans and democrats, I only know what the record shows. The left argues itself into a circle like a dog chasing its tale. My people, do not have a history of evil, and we do not need leftist morons imagining that we do.
 
Virgil Jones said:
Prove it.
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Don't know what you want me to prove, but:

1- look at the electoral college chart in 1964. LBJ was quoted saying something like the democrats would lose the south for a generation due to democratic support for civil rights.
2- Reagan appeared soon after nomination, I think in Keshoba (sp?) Mississippi making a point to talk about "states rights," which at the time was phrase used to justify southern states resistance to federal action on civil rights. This was apparently near where one of the most infamous incidents in US civil rights history occurred, the killing of three young activists occurred (there were books, "Three Lives for Mississippi," a TV show, and even a film w Gene Hackman on this). Reagan didn't mention it in his appearance, which appearance an emphasis on states rights was fairly widely interpreted (duh) as a signal that he would go slow on civil rights enforcement, which he did. He had also opposed the civil rights act, sanctions on South Africa passed over his veto, the MLK holiday, and opposed the ban on tax breaks for private schools that discriminated.

Two or three seconds on Google finds this stuff. Apologize, but I don't know how to copy and paste links on the device I am using.
 
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Virgil Jones said:
When you accuse white people of "white privilege", as the left does these days, and accuse us of all of the world's evils, without giving credit for our great accomplishments, then a great abyss appears. I do not care what you think about republicans and democrats, I only know what the record shows. The left argues itself into a circle like a dog chasing its tale. My people, do not have a history of evil, and we do not need leftist morons imagining that we do.
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“My people”?
 
Virgil Jones said:
Do you realize that Republicans were the party that did not oppose the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
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No party apposed the civil rights act. Both of them passed it in both chambers of congress with a majority. The only group to vote in majority against it were representatives of both parties from former Confederate states who voted against it by over 90%. History and facts show that it's been the ignorant conservative south who have been apposing equal rights since the birth of the nation.
 
Virgil Jones said:
Are you accusing white people of being guilty of slavery, when republicans who were white fought to end slavery? What are you even talking about?
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It's bad enough replying to yourself but asking yourself questions seems like over the edge to me.
 
Master Debator said:
No party apposed the civil rights act. Both of them passed it in both chambers of congress with a majority. The only group to vote in majority against it were representatives of both parties from former Confederate states who voted against it by over 90%. History and facts show that it's been the ignorant conservative south who have been apposing equal rights since the birth of the nation.
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It really is stunning to see the ignorance on the Right. But, it does explain so much.
 
calamity said:
Not one Southern Republican voted for it. I know you didn't know that.

BTW: A majority of Dems passed it. And, a Dem president signed it.
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There were 125 southern democrats & 11 southern republicans. You really didn't go out on a limb smuggly
declaring that no southern republicans voted for it.

BTW the democrat that signed it was about the worst who ever resided in the Oval Office.
1) Tonkin Resolution 2) Immigration act of 1965 3) Great Society

No other president I know of have made 3 mistakes as colossal as those.



So only 9 out of 116 southern Democrats (House and Senate) voted for the Civil Rights Act, but 190 out of 200 northern Democrats did. None of the 11 southern Republicans voted for it
 
slick said:
There were 125 southern democrats & 11 southern republicans. You really didn't go out on a limb smuggly
declaring that no southern republicans voted for it.

BTW the democrat that signed it was about the worst who ever resided in the Oval Office.
1) Tonkin Resolution 2) Immigration act of 1965 3) Great Society

No other president I know of have made 3 mistakes as colossal as those.



So only 9 out of 116 southern Democrats (House and Senate) voted for the Civil Rights Act, but 190 out of 200 northern Democrats did. None of the 11 southern Republicans voted for it
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9 is greater than 0.

I thought you would have known that.
 
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