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Trump wants companies to start on 6g technology

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I am curious if any of these idiots up on the hill know what "G" means.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I am curious if any of these idiots up on the hill know what "G" means.
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Trump doesn't even know how to use a computer.
By the way, neither does Hillary Clinton.

The digital divide is alive and well...and it's not merely economic based, it's age based as well.
The difference is, most computer illiterate people admit that they're computer illiterate, and admit that they don't know what they're talking about, but people like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton won't, and they can't keep their mouths shut.

I don't know if Bernie Sanders understands computers or not but I suspect that he does not.

The "G" in 3G, 4G and 5G simply stands for "generation" so naturally there's a probability that there will eventually be a sixth generation network technology and topology...at some point. But Donald Trump can't tell the difference between a tablet and an Etch-A-Sketch.
The only thing he knows how to do is tweet.
The only thing Hillz knows how to use is a Blackberry.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I am curious if any of these idiots up on the hill know what "G" means.
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Trump doesn't even know how to use a computer.
By the way, neither does Hillary Clinton.

The digital divide is alive and well...and it's not merely economic based, it's age based as well.
The difference is, most computer illiterate people admit that they're computer illiterate, and admit that they don't know what they're talking about, but people like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton won't, and they can't keep their mouths shut.

I don't know if Bernie Sanders understands computers or not but I suspect that he does not.

The "G" in 3G, 4G and 5G simply stands for "generation" so naturally there's a probability that there will eventually be a sixth generation network technology and topology...at some point. But Donald Trump can't tell the difference between a tablet and an Etch-A-Sketch.
The only thing he knows how to do is tweet.
The only thing Hillz knows how to use is a Blackberry.
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I will admit this idiot over here, me, finally knows what the "G" means. :3oops: :lol:
 
Unfortunately this is an area in which most of our elected officials are as uninformed as Trump. Listen to the Congressional hearings in which IT tycoons, like Zuckerberg, testify. The questions the congress critters ask are embarrassing.
 
Idiot. 8G is ten times smarter and faster than 6G.
 
Barnacle said:
Doesn't matter; G5 is being rolled out now, so what makes you think G6 is not already in the works?
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Which cel phone provider is ready with 5 G?

Do tell. Thanks

Dude, he made it up because 6 is bigger than 5 and he's that grandiose yet simplistic.

He says anything, you really have not noticed?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Trump doesn't even know how to use a computer.
By the way, neither does Hillary Clinton.

The digital divide is alive and well...and it's not merely economic based, it's age based as well.
The difference is, most computer illiterate people admit that they're computer illiterate, and admit that they don't know what they're talking about, but people like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton won't, and they can't keep their mouths shut.

I don't know if Bernie Sanders understands computers or not but I suspect that he does not.

The "G" in 3G, 4G and 5G simply stands for "generation" so naturally there's a probability that there will eventually be a sixth generation network technology and topology...at some point. But Donald Trump can't tell the difference between a tablet and an Etch-A-Sketch.
The only thing he knows how to do is tweet.
The only thing Hillz knows how to use is a Blackberry.
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Here is where I am going with this.

When Trump says "I want 5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. It is far more powerful, faster, and smarter than the current standard. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind" clearly the man has no ****ing clue what he is talking about.

Yes, "G" stands for Generation but outside of the International Telecommunication Union and International Mobile Telecommunications no one has really bothered to dictate those standards directly enough. So much so that they invented a clever marketing ploy called "LTE" which just means Long-Term Evolution, and was literally a way for companies to say they are working on getting to 4G but not quite at those speed standards even though they are well above 3G standards (nebulously decided at the time as well.) Also, the speed standards themselves are a generalization absent much effort to standardize the actual protocol used.

Companies like Verizon, AT&T, etc. but also companies like Crown Castle International Corp, AT&T Towers, and chip manufactures for mobile devices are already working on the next generation of needs for whatever 5G or 6G would look like.

Problem is those guys are rarely in sync, the first "4G LTE" in technology translation is no different than saying you built a 200 mph car that can only go 160 mph. Everything that goes into these networks involves technology made by 1000s of different companies never in sync on what hits the market first.

Long story short, when a President wants the next Generation he not only does not realize that what a "G" is but also that 4G has never been hit as a constant standard across everyone saying they have that network. Not everyone on every network will see 4G, or 4G LTE, or even 3G all the time.

When someone finally does say "5G is here" or even worse "hey Trump... we did it!" odds are it will basically be a car that in the right conditions could hit 1000 mph, and end up going right along at 300 mph. Probably also get called "LTE" and end up being rather meaningless to whatever Trump or anyone else was talking about in the first place.
 
noonereal said:
Which cel phone provider is ready with 5 G?

Do tell. Thanks

Dude, he made it up because 6 is bigger than 5 and he's that grandiose yet simplistic.

He says anything, you really have not noticed?
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Somebody tell Bozo the President that we have to get through 5G Phase 1 and then onto 5G phase 2 before we go anywhere else. Phase 2 will be the first digital architecture that does not require any backward compatibility and in fact efforts to leave backward compatibility in the dust. That by itself while sounding "easier" represents a tall order.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I am curious if any of these idiots up on the hill know what "G" means.
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Kamala Harris was smoking weed listening to Snoop she knows the true G
 
"... On October 4 Vice-President Mike Pence spoke at the Hudson Institute and warned, “Through the ‘Made in China 2025’ plan, the [Chinese] Communist Party has set its sights on controlling 90 percent of the world’s most advanced industries, including robotics, biotechnology, and artificial intelligence, ” including 5-G; as part of Beijing’s plan to emerge as the dominant superpower in the 21st century.

... The same day Pence spoke, Bloomberg broke a story regarding a California-based company called Supermicro, where Chinese subcontractors have been stealthily installing back doors in mother boards for advanced hardware systems for years. It’s a sobering warning of what can happen if China’s telecom giants, who operate at the behest of the Chinese military-intelligence-complex, dominate the future of 5G.

That dominance already happening. As noted, 5G relies on fiber-optic networks which are very expensive to install and require an infrastructure investment of tens of billions of dollars. Here comes China, offering to build and install those networks at bargain prices, with workers and engineers eager to help. This allows bidders in government auctions of bandwidth for 5Gs to overbid, knowing that Chinese vendors will not only build the networks for bargain prices. ...

The result is a growing number of countries who are adopting or at least rolling out Chinese versions of 5G while the US fails to act. To date at least one telecom operator in 48 countries has an agreement or has announced testing of gear made by Chinese IT giant Huawei, which has notorious ties to China’s military and intelligence agencies. Ten countries have announced deals to starting using Huawei gear in their 5G networks, including the UK, Portugal, Italy, Mexico, the Philippines, and most recently, Saudi Arabia.

... Fortunately, there is still time for the US to make its move. It can end the current impasse on 5G standards and practices which has stalled out further technical and commercial developments, and it can mobilize our domestic telecoms—AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, and the like—to rally behind a new plan on how to divide 5G bandwidth so that it can made affordable and accessible without relying on Chinese sub-contractors to provide the price break. Otherwise our telecoms will face the same unpalatable choice our allies are currently facing: either jump on the China bandwagon or get left behind. ...

The War For The World's 5G Future
 
He just thought saying a higher number would sound better.
 
We will ultimately get to where we need to go in digital wireless. We won't (can't) do it using Chinese Technology unless our ambitions are to turn entirely to authoritarian rule. China intends using its wireless technology to support things like a Citizen Merit System. Talk about Big Brother! Those countries truly interested in Huawei and ZTE are as much interested in the citizen monitoring capabilities and merit system opportunities they engender as anything else. Its like low cost systems and hardware technology with a sting.

They never (and I do mean never) would have made up as much ground in digital wireless without thieving so much technology from technology developers. They could not have just stumbled around in Time Divisible and Code Divisible and LTE technologies and suddenly one day proclaim to the world "TA-DA, 5G". Even 5G Phase 2 development requires a fairly deep understanding of everything that came before it.
 
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OrphanSlug said:
Here is where I am going with this.

When Trump says "I want 5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. It is far more powerful, faster, and smarter than the current standard. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind" clearly the man has no ****ing clue what he is talking about.

Yes, "G" stands for Generation but outside of the International Telecommunication Union and International Mobile Telecommunications no one has really bothered to dictate those standards directly enough. So much so that they invented a clever ....SNIPPED
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You know your stuff! :)

For the record, on a personal note, while working for Tek Systems, I installed the entire E-911 systems for Copperas Cove, Harker Heights, Fort Hood and Killeen, Texas and everything you mentioned is gospel. I also did QoS drive testing and mapping for Sprint, Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile in the Dallas and Fort Worth metro areas.

Donald Trump doesn't even know how to use a computer to send an email. His staff has to print them all up and he dictates his outgoing emails.
I seriously doubt he has even the first clue how to operate a PC of any kind.
The reason Hillary got into so much trouble with her emails, why she insisted on a privately owned server, is because she refused to give up her aging Blackberry even after Blackberry was decertified for federal government security use and therefore it was not possible to set up a government certified government server to work with her device.

So she arrogantly insisted on keeping the device and used her own system. She was recalcitrant to adaptation of new technology, and according to more than a few, she rarely if ever uses an actual PC, just her old Blackberry.

The takeaway from that is, we need to put these old dinosaurs out to pasture once and for all.
Refusal to keep up with technology, at least on a basic level, to the point where insistence on dangerously insecure and outmoded tech is a dealbreaker FOR them, needs to instead be a dealbreaker TO them, and the rest of the country should not have to be on the hook and at risk.

If they want to insist on keeping their old Windows 98/AOL era crap, let them play Solitaire on it but they make it clear that they are no longer part of the leadership, and they need to be sloughed off and dumped off in the digital equivalent of a senior citizens center where they can gum their Early Bird Specials and watch Alex Trebek on Jeopardy.

We should have gotten our first clue a long time ago:

"Rumors on thuh innernets!"



Whoever gets elected as POTUS next, has to have at least a good basic working understanding of modern tech, enough to understand what their advisers are even talking about.
 
"Whoever gets elected as POTUS next, has to have at least a good basic working understanding of modern tech, enough to understand what their advisers are even talking about."

The Congress does not know what it is talking about in digital wireless. The Administration does not know. The President does not know. None of them have a clue. It has been years since the FCC even knew what we were doing in Digital Wireless basically resigning itself to tagging along behind what the industry wanted because they flat could not really do more than that. We had to explain virtually everything to them like they were 5 year olds.

The FCC is proud of itself because it sort of understood WiFi. uuuuuuhhhhhh, I'm impressed.

The technologists were in the main stripped out of the FCC during the Reagan years and for the most part never returned in the depth and breadth required. For 20 of the 35 odd years of my industry career, they took what we gave them and were darned glad to have it. We are in a bad bad place with regard to government understanding of wireless technologies. If I had to venture a guess, governmentally we are worse off in that regard than we are in Cyber. Everybody thinks deregulation is a great thing until it becomes overzealous and then the payback is nasty. Its generally only a matter of who it is that gets to PAY BACK.
 
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jnug said:
"Whoever gets elected as POTUS next, has to have at least a good basic working understanding of modern tech, enough to understand what their advisers are even talking about."

The Congress does not know what it is talking about in digital wireless. The Administration does not know. The President does not know. None of them have a clue. It has been years since the FCC even knew what we were doing in Digital Wireless basically resigning itself to tagging along behind what the industry wanted because they flat could not really do more than that. We had to explain virtually everything to them like they were 5 year olds.

The FCC is proud of itself because it sort of understood WiFi. uuuuuuhhhhhh, I'm impressed.

The technologists were in the main stripped out of the FCC during the Reagan years and for the most part never returned in the depth and breadth required. For 20 of the 35 odd years of my industry career, they took what we gave them and were darned glad to have it. We are in a bad bad place with regard to government understanding of wireless technologies. If I had to venture a guess, governmentally we are worse off in that regard than we are in Cyber. Everybody thinks deregulation is a great thing until it becomes overzealous and then the payback is nasty. Its generally only a matter of who it is that gets to PAY BACK.
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That is one of the best explanations about the FCC I've heard in a very long time.

Jeff H.
FCC First Class Radiotelephone Operator Permit #P-1-16-37875, issued June 1979

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