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Did the MAGA Teen’s Lawyers Blow the Best Part of His Case?

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Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
 
JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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"Teach the Post a lesson". HAHA. Good one.

They did it to make money. Not everyone is a Trump fan and stupid.

Pain and suffering. I think Joe Scarborough should sue Trump for P&S. Trump has pushed a lie that Joe killed an intern and that no doubt set off that creep who was just arrested who had Joe in his hit list.
 
JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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No, they did not.

They NAILED IT...and nailed the WAPO to the wall.
 
JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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From the citation:

As a result of alleged harm to his reputation, Sandmann’s lawsuit asks for $50 million in compensatory damages and $200 million in punitive damages.

Wood tweeted about this issue, claiming that it was not improper to file the complaint because it was done after the demand for a retraction was issued, but he acknowledged that the Post still has six days from the time of the filing to issue a retraction. If the Post does take corrective action during that time, Sandmann would not be able to recover punitive damages.

In a subsequent statement to Law&Crime, Wood said the timing of the complaint was not a mistake, but intentional, so WaPo would know he means business. If they issue a retraction, then he’ll address any changes he might need to make to the complaint.
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Civil complaints can be amended under certain circumstances within 10 - 21 days after filing, depending on the jurisdiction. The complaint was filed on 02/19/19, with a notice to retract sent to WaPo on 02/14/19. The ten day notice expires on 02/24/19 which may leave the legal team 5 to 16 days to amend their complaint if WaPo does not issue a retraction.

In any case, $50 million in damages is still a decent "windfall" when you start with nothing. ;)
 
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JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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They didn't blow anything. it doesn't matter why they are doing the WAPO still printed knowingly false stories that slandered and harassed those teens and have everyone in an uproar with them over
it.

there is nothing here that blows their case.
The WAPO can issue a full retraction and a 100% apology and be able to clear the punitive damages.
 
ludin said:
They didn't blow anything. it doesn't matter why they are doing the WAPO still printed knowingly false stories that slandered and harassed those teens and have everyone in an uproar with them over
it.

there is nothing here that blows their case.
The WAPO can issue a full retraction and a 100% apology and be able to clear the punitive damages.
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Are you feeling okay?
 
JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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So...if I understand what the article is saying, it comes down to this:

1. If WaPo issues a retraction within a few days, the $200 million in "punitive" damages could not be assessed by the court.

2. The "compensatory" damages are not affected by this deadline.

Seems to me just taking WaPo to court and winning the case, whether they actually get any money out of it or not, is enough to "teach the Post a lesson". Heck, just the filing of the suit tarnishes their reputation.

Sandmann and his attorneys have a slew of targets that they want to teach a lesson. WaPo is just the first. If they get compensatory damages from all of them, that will add up to a very big chunk of cash.

I don't really think Sandmann is in it for the "financial bonanza", so in effect the Law and Crime story is a nothingburger.
 
tres borrachos said:
"Teach the Post a lesson". HAHA. Good one.

They did it to make money. Not everyone is a Trump fan and stupid.

Pain and suffering. I think Joe Scarborough should sue Trump for P&S. Trump has pushed a lie that Joe killed an intern and that no doubt set off that creep who was just arrested who had Joe in his hit list.
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Morning Joe gets more pain and suffering from his own rhetoric and from his own wife than he gets from Trump.
 
JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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The linked article is nothing more than LEFT BULL**** from leftidiot Dan Abrams' asinine left site, desperately trying to run cover for his buds at WAPO....
 
Mycroft said:
Morning Joe gets more pain and suffering from his own rhetoric and from his own wife than he gets from Trump.
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Trump has publicly attacked Scarborough. Fact. He also pushed a false claim that Scarborough killed his intern. Fact. You know it and everyone else knows it.

Scarborough should sue him. Actually everyone Trump ever falsely accused of things should sue him. Like McCabe and Rosenstein, who Trump said committee treason.
 
Mycroft said:
So...if I understand what the article is saying, it comes down to this:

1. If WaPo issues a retraction within a few days, the $200 million in "punitive" damages could not be assessed by the court.

2. The "compensatory" damages are not affected by this deadline.

Seems to me just taking WaPo to court and winning the case, whether they actually get any money out of it or not, is enough to "teach the Post a lesson". Heck, just the filing of the suit tarnishes their reputation.

Sandmann and his attorneys have a slew of targets that they want to teach a lesson. WaPo is just the first. If they get compensatory damages from all of them, that will add up to a very big chunk of cash.

I don't really think Sandmann is in it for the "financial bonanza", so in effect the Law and Crime story is a nothingburger.
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His parents say otherwise. The way you “teach a lesson” in a damages case is winning damages that hurt.
 
Meanwhile the Parkland survivors are drooling as they set their eyes on suing the NRA...
 
JackA said:
His parents say otherwise. The way you “teach a lesson” in a damages case is winning damages that hurt.
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Is this what his parents said?

In any case, winning damages isn't the only way to teach a lesson. This kind of case can severely damage the newspaper's reputation. Their reputation is what they are selling. It's the only reason anyone buys their services.
 
Zalatix said:
Meanwhile the Parkland survivors are drooling as they set their eyes on suing the NRA...
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good luck the NRA is not responsible for what happened.
they would have better luck suing the police.
 
ludin said:
I am your not. triggered for some reason?
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He just couldn't come up with a rational response to your point, so he tries to make you the subject.
Stupid article. Nothing here is "blown". The author of the article doesn't have a clue as to what they are babbling on about. The Post has 3 more days to retract their stories, AND the Post would have 3 more days to retract the story even if the suit had not yet been filed. So what is it they think was blown?
 
Zalatix said:
Meanwhile the Parkland survivors are drooling as they set their eyes on suing the NRA...
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And Fox News along with every other rRW media source......
 
ludin said:
good luck the NRA is not responsible for what happened.
they would have better luck suing the police.
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The NRA is responsible for their response to the kids.
 
SCrider said:
The NRA is responsible for their response to the kids.
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not really. 1sts amendment slander cases are pretty much impossible to prove.
what is going to put the WAPO in jeopardy is that they wrote a story it turned out to be
fake they have been issued a order to fully recant the story.

if they refuse to do so then they are knowingly supporting a story they know is false and are purposely trying to damage and hurt the reputation of those boys.
that pretty much would meet libel and slander laws.

the NRA writing a response that someone doesn't like doesn't meet the criteria for slander.
 
This is a silly case.
Should be dismissed.
 
Captain Adverse said:
From the citation:



Civil complaints can be amended under certain circumstances within 10 - 21 days after filing, depending on the jurisdiction. The complaint was filed on 02/19/19, with a notice to retract sent to WaPo on 02/14/19. The ten day notice expires on 02/24/19 which may leave the legal team 5 to 16 days to amend their complaint if WaPo does not issue a retraction.

In any case, $50 million in damages is still a decent "windfall" when you start with nothing. ;)
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The amount claimed in the complaint is meaningless except for setting a maximum recovery. A jury will decide what his real damages are.
 
JackA said:
Here’s a wrinkle. If the lawyers have blown the claim for punitive damages they’ve possibly lost the only realistic hope they had for a financial bonanza.

Nick Sandmann Lawsuit May Have Costly Error | Law & Crime

Punitive damages are the pot of gold in these cases. The jury weighs the bad conduct of the Defendant and nothing else. The parents who brought the suit on their son’s behalf say they are doing it to teach the Post (Jeff Bezos’s Post, remember) a lesson. This is just where punitive damages come in. With those damages off the table, the boy would be left with his compensatory damages - his actual financial loss but also possible damages for mental anguish, an element of “pain and suffering”, if those damages are claimed. Assuming the jurors don’t like the Post and do like the kid, the P&S could amount to something. The threat of them might get the kid a settlement, but not the pot of gold.
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They never had a case to begin with.
 
Captain Adverse said:
From the citation:



Civil complaints can be amended under certain circumstances within 10 - 21 days after filing, depending on the jurisdiction. The complaint was filed on 02/19/19, with a notice to retract sent to WaPo on 02/14/19. The ten day notice expires on 02/24/19 which may leave the legal team 5 to 16 days to amend their complaint if WaPo does not issue a retraction.

In any case, $50 million in damages is still a decent "windfall" when you start with nothing. ;)
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I bet you the kid won't get $5. Good luck paying for college when you have thousands of dollars in legal fees. Rich pansy scum.
 
When you’re a MAGA teen are you damaged or elevated at becoming the poster boy for MAGA teens?
 
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