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Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent President we have ever had

Luckyone

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Lets face it.

Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent president that we have ever had. His entire life has been about corruption. His ties to the U.S. mafia goes back to 1979 when Trump Tower got built and his ties to the Russian mafia goes back 30 years.

In his administration, he has hired a litany of corrupt people, including Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Pruitt, Price, Ross, Mnuchin, Zinke and then from a competency point of view, his WH has been full of incompetent people starting with many on the list above and the all the way down to Omarosa and Bannon that have no qualifications for being there. To finish it off, Kushner (a man with no experience) being the right hand man of the President. That is about as ridiculous as it gets. The WH has no talent.

This incompetency accusation can't even begin to be debated as he himself has called most of the people he has hired incompetent. Talk about the height of incompetency, that takes the cake!

In addition to all of this, every single day a new investigation comes out about him or his organizations. Never before has anyone been investigated or accused of so much as Trump is accused of, not even Nixon. Starting with 22 accusation of sexual misconduct to his organizations being investigated to investigations about Russian collusion.

In his life Trump has always been involved with people accusing him of some impropriety. He has been sued over 3500 times by people that worked for him, had business dealings with him, or that he promised something to but did not deliver.

Trump supporters will argue that he is innocent of all of this and ask "where is the proof?" but the reality is that where there is smoke there is usually a fire and with the amount of smoke around Trump, the fire is indicative of someone that is corrupt and incompetent to the nth degree. It is virtually impossible that with Trump's 40-50 year record of all of these accusations, investigations, and actual failures that he is not corrupt and incompetent.

It is clearly evident that Trump is the most corrupt and most incompetent President we have ever had. The perfect patsy for Putin (our enemy) to use to effect changes to the Democracy he most hates.
 
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Luckyone said:
Lets face it.

Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent president that we have ever had. His entire life has been about corruption. His ties to the U.S. mafia goes back to 1979 when Trump Tower got built and his ties to the Russian mafia goes back 30 years.

In his administration, he has hired a litany of corrupt people, including Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Pruitt, Price, Ross, Mnuchin, Zinke and then from a competency point of view, his WH has been full of incompetent people starting with many on the list above and the all the way down to Omarosa and Bannon that have no qualifications for being there, such as Kushner (a man with no experience) being the right hand man of the President. That is about as ridiculous as it gets. The WH has no talent.

This incompetency accusation can't even begin to be debated as he himself has called most of the people he has hired incompetent. Talk about the height of incompetency, that takes the cake!

In addition to all of this, every single day a new investigation comes out about him or his organizations. Never before has anyone been investigated or accused of so much as Trump is accused of, not even Nixon. Starting with 22 accusation of sexual misconduct to his organizations being investigated.

In his life Trump has always been involved with people accusing him of some impropriety. He has been sued over 3500 times by people that worked for him, had business dealings with him, or that he promised something to but did not deliver. Where there is smoke there is usually a fire and with the amount of smoke around Trump, the fire is indicative of someone that is corrupt to the nth degree.

It is clearly evident that Trump is the most corrupt and most incompetent President we have ever had. The perfect patsy for Putin (our enemy) to use as a patsy.
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A couple of questions...

He has been convicted how many times?

And to the law suits. Are they disproportionate for someone who employed the same number of people or had as many business dealings?

And are any of your numbers related to the time he is in office.

Numbers without context are just noise....

BTW - Check the Grant and Harding administration's for examples of graft and misdoings by an administration.
 
Luckyone said:
Lets face it.

Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent president that we have ever had. His entire life has been about corruption. His ties to the U.S. mafia goes back to 1979 when Trump Tower got built and his ties to the Russian mafia goes back 30 years.

In his administration, he has hired a litany of corrupt people, including Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Pruitt, Price, Ross, Mnuchin, Zinke and then from a competency point of view, his WH has been full of incompetent people starting with many on the list above and the all the way down to Omarosa and Bannon that have no qualifications for being there, such as Kushner (a man with no experience) being the right hand man of the President. That is about as ridiculous as it gets. The WH has no talent.

This incompetency accusation can't even begin to be debated as he himself has called most of the people he has hired incompetent. Talk about the height of incompetency, that takes the cake!

In addition to all of this, every single day a new investigation comes out about him or his organizations. Never before has anyone been investigated or accused of so much as Trump is accused of, not even Nixon. Starting with 22 accusation of sexual misconduct to his organizations being investigated to investigations about Russian collusion.

In his life Trump has always been involved with people accusing him of some impropriety. He has been sued over 3500 times by people that worked for him, had business dealings with him, or that he promised something to but did not deliver.

Trump supporters will argue that he is innocent of all of this and ask "where is the proof?" but the reality is that where there is smoke there is usually a fire and with the amount of smoke around Trump, the fire is indicative of someone that is corrupt to the nth degree. It is virtually impossible that with Trump 40-50 year record of all of these accusations, investigations, and actual failures that he is not corrupt and incompetent.

It is clearly evident that Trump is the most corrupt and most incompetent President we have ever had. The perfect patsy for Putin (our enemy) to use to effect changes to the Democracy he most hates.
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You're funny. Is it intentional?
 
yet again, liberals were spot on. We were right about Iraq, we are still paying for that, and we were spot on about Trump. And right wing assholes will continue to stick their head up fox news' ass and refuse to admit and continue electing the very people that are raping them
 
Fledermaus said:
A couple of questions...

He has been convicted how many times?

And to the law suits. Are they disproportionate for someone who employed the same number of people or had as many business dealings?

And are any of your numbers related to the time he is in office.

Numbers without context are just noise....

BTW - Check the Grant and Harding administration's for examples of graft and misdoings by an administration.
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blah, blah, blah..........proof is what all Trump supporters ask for as a defense to all of this. My answer to you is simple: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quack like a duck, it is likely it is a duck.
 
Luckyone said:
Of course I am funny to a Trump supporter. They live in a fantasy world and in that world I am a villain.
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Yep. You're funny....and delusional.
 
Luckyone said:
blah, blah, blah..........proof is what all Trump supporters ask for as a defense to all of this. My answer to you is simple: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quack like a duck, it is likely it is a duck.
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So, you have no idea.

Another "I hate Trump" thread that will likely slither off the bottom of the board due to lack of content.
 
Fledermaus said:
So, you have no idea.

Another "I hate Trump" thread that will likely slither off the bottom of the board due to lack of content.
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No, I worked on this thread for almost an hour and if you notice, there is a link to every single statement that I made regarding the proof of the investigations into corruption and incompetency. Evidently, this is not just another "I hate Trump" piece by one person given that it is backed up with countless of articles about Trump's background. If you have a question about the veracity of what is said, I recommend you take it with news sources such as CNN, VOX, Rollingstone, Wired and all the other sources that I quoted.

These are researched articles that I quoted. As such, take it with them. I just did the research.
 
Luckyone said:
No, I worked on this thread for almost an hour and if you notice, there is a link to every single statement that I made regarding the proof of the investigations into corruption and incompetency. Evidently, this is not just another "I hate Trump" piece by one person given that it is backed up with countless of articles about Trump's background. If you have a question about the veracity of what is said, I recommend you take it with news sources such as CNN, VOX, Rollingstone, Wired and all the other sources that I quoted.

These are researched articles that I quoted. As such, take it with them. I just did the research.
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I don't care if you worked a week on the OP.

NUMBERS WITHOUT CONTEXT ARE JUST NOISE....
 
Fledermaus said:
A couple of questions...

And to the law suits. Are they disproportionate for someone who employed the same number of people or had as many business dealings?
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On that one … AbsaByGodLutely YES!!!. They would be disproportionate for General Motors or Lockheed Martin … heck … AND Lockheed Martin.


Fledermaus said:
Numbers without context are just noise....
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I'll give you that, tRumps been surrounded by "noise" all his life … it may just be catching up with him; we'll see, won't we?
 
Fledermaus said:
I don't care if you worked a week on the OP.

NUMBERS WITHOUT CONTEXT ARE JUST NOISE....
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Your reply just goes to show that you are the kind of a person that would be walking in a bad neighborhood and a man with hoodie was coming with a gun drawn and pointed at you and you would stand there (not run) until he proved his intentions and shot you. The probabilities (99.9%) don't mean anything to you, right? You need proof before you run, right?

Trump is incompetent and corrupt and he can affect your life. Nonetheless, you are going to wait until he actually affects your life before making a decision to attempt to stop him, right?
 
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Luckyone said:
Lets face it.

Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent president that we have ever had. His entire life has been about corruption. His ties to the U.S. mafia goes back to 1979 when Trump Tower got built and his ties to the Russian mafia goes back 30 years.

In his administration, he has hired a litany of corrupt people, including Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Pruitt, Price, Ross, Mnuchin, Zinke and then from a competency point of view, his WH has been full of incompetent people starting with many on the list above and the all the way down to Omarosa and Bannon that have no qualifications for being there. To finish it off, Kushner (a man with no experience) being the right hand man of the President. That is about as ridiculous as it gets. The WH has no talent.

This incompetency accusation can't even begin to be debated as he himself has called most of the people he has hired incompetent. Talk about the height of incompetency, that takes the cake!

In addition to all of this, every single day a new investigation comes out about him or his organizations. Never before has anyone been investigated or accused of so much as Trump is accused of, not even Nixon. Starting with 22 accusation of sexual misconduct to his organizations being investigated to investigations about Russian collusion.

In his life Trump has always been involved with people accusing him of some impropriety. He has been sued over 3500 times by people that worked for him, had business dealings with him, or that he promised something to but did not deliver.

Trump supporters will argue that he is innocent of all of this and ask "where is the proof?" but the reality is that where there is smoke there is usually a fire and with the amount of smoke around Trump, the fire is indicative of someone that is corrupt and incompetent to the nth degree. It is virtually impossible that with Trump's 40-50 year record of all of these accusations, investigations, and actual failures that he is not corrupt and incompetent.

It is clearly evident that Trump is the most corrupt and most incompetent President we have ever had. The perfect patsy for Putin (our enemy) to use to effect changes to the Democracy he most hates.
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The link to the Trump organizations being investigated evidently did not come through correctly.

Here is the link:

https://www.wired.com/story/mueller-investigation-trump-russia-complete-guide/
 
Luckyone said:
Lets face it.

Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent president that we have ever had. His entire life has been about corruption. His ties to the U.S. mafia goes back to 1979 when Trump Tower got built and his ties to the Russian mafia goes back 30 years.

In his administration, he has hired a litany of corrupt people, including Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Pruitt, Price, Ross, Mnuchin, Zinke and then from a competency point of view, his WH has been full of incompetent people starting with many on the list above and the all the way down to Omarosa and Bannon that have no qualifications for being there. To finish it off, Kushner (a man with no experience) being the right hand man of the President. That is about as ridiculous as it gets. The WH has no talent.

This incompetency accusation can't even begin to be debated as he himself has called most of the people he has hired incompetent. Talk about the height of incompetency, that takes the cake!

In addition to all of this, every single day a new investigation comes out about him or his organizations. Never before has anyone been investigated or accused of so much as Trump is accused of, not even Nixon. Starting with 22 accusation of sexual misconduct to his organizations being investigated to investigations about Russian collusion.

In his life Trump has always been involved with people accusing him of some impropriety. He has been sued over 3500 times by people that worked for him, had business dealings with him, or that he promised something to but did not deliver.

Trump supporters will argue that he is innocent of all of this and ask "where is the proof?" but the reality is that where there is smoke there is usually a fire and with the amount of smoke around Trump, the fire is indicative of someone that is corrupt and incompetent to the nth degree. It is virtually impossible that with Trump's 40-50 year record of all of these accusations, investigations, and actual failures that he is not corrupt and incompetent.

It is clearly evident that Trump is the most corrupt and most incompetent President we have ever had. The perfect patsy for Putin (our enemy) to use to effect changes to the Democracy he most hates.
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You only got part of it. Unfortunately: McCabe: 'I think it's possible' Trump is a Russian asset. Remember that fire in Trump Tower???
 
Fledermaus said:
...Numbers without context are just noise....

BTW - Check the Grant and Harding administration's for examples of graft and misdoings by an administration.
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I Don't know anything about Harding, but I heard about Grant many years ago. I just took a quick look at the Wiki page and found three amazing close similarities to Trump;

"...Grant and his administration, including his cabinet, suffered many scandals, leading to continuous reshuffling of officials...

...The standards in many of his appointments were low, and charges of corruption were widespread...

...Nepotism was prevalent, with over 40 family members benefiting from government appointments and employment..."

No one knows yet, but Luckyone certainly could be right. I believe he is. In my lifetime Nixon has been the worst so far, but Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy The reason I believe he's worst then Grant and Harding is that unlike Trump, I've never heard of either being under suspicion of treason.

Don supporters can ignore him doing everything possible to act guilty, all the signs of him working secret deals with Val and his recent confession that he gets his intelligence from a murdering dictator who controls a nuclear arsenal that posses our county's greatest threat. But until the investigation is completed all either side has are opinions.

Trying to hide some hotel deal is one thing, but believing Putin when his own intelligence services says the opposite?!? Until I'm proven wrong, it's my opinion that we have our first treasonous president...
 
Luckyone said:
blah, blah, blah..........proof is what all Trump supporters ask for as a defense to all of this. My answer to you is simple: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quack like a duck, it is likely it is a duck.
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Of course, they required no proof to believe Obama wasn't a US citizen, he was a muslim, all the other dumb stuff they believed about him, and no proof that Hillary did all the things they say she did, even though all those investigations lead to nothing while all the investigations into Trump are leading to arrests, indictments, convictions and loads of additional evidence against TRump campaign

it's really isn't worth bothering anymore, its an exercise in futility, these people are too far gone to ever come back to reality
 
Luckyone said:
Lets face it.

Trump is the most corrupt and incompetent president that we have ever had. His entire life has been about corruption. His ties to the U.S. mafia goes back to 1979 when Trump Tower got built and his ties to the Russian mafia goes back 30 years.

In his administration, he has hired a litany of corrupt people, including Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Pruitt, Price, Ross, Mnuchin, Zinke and then from a competency point of view, his WH has been full of incompetent people starting with many on the list above and the all the way down to Omarosa and Bannon that have no qualifications for being there. To finish it off, Kushner (a man with no experience) being the right hand man of the President. That is about as ridiculous as it gets. The WH has no talent.

This incompetency accusation can't even begin to be debated as he himself has called most of the people he has hired incompetent. Talk about the height of incompetency, that takes the cake!

In addition to all of this, every single day a new investigation comes out about him or his organizations. Never before has anyone been investigated or accused of so much as Trump is accused of, not even Nixon. Starting with 22 accusation of sexual misconduct to his organizations being investigated to investigations about Russian collusion.

In his life Trump has always been involved with people accusing him of some impropriety. He has been sued over 3500 times by people that worked for him, had business dealings with him, or that he promised something to but did not deliver.

Trump supporters will argue that he is innocent of all of this and ask "where is the proof?" but the reality is that where there is smoke there is usually a fire and with the amount of smoke around Trump, the fire is indicative of someone that is corrupt and incompetent to the nth degree. It is virtually impossible that with Trump's 40-50 year record of all of these accusations, investigations, and actual failures that he is not corrupt and incompetent.

It is clearly evident that Trump is the most corrupt and most incompetent President we have ever had. The perfect patsy for Putin (our enemy) to use to effect changes to the Democracy he most hates.
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Leftist Hitlaryite supporters have doggedly pursued anyone and everyone associated with president Trump to try to bring them down as a way to bring Trump down. This is no longer a civilized or just political process. It has become a process of wicked men using their positions of power to persecute and destroy their enemies in a bold attempt to overthrow God Bless America to reshape it in the image of their Goddamn America socialist Bolshevik demonic dream.
 
marke said:
Leftist Hitlaryite supporters have doggedly pursued anyone and everyone associated with president Trump to try to bring them down as a way to bring Trump down. This is no longer a civilized or just political process. It has become a process of wicked men using their positions of power to persecute and destroy their enemies in a bold attempt to overthrow God Bless America to reshape it in the image of their Goddamn America socialist Bolshevik demonic dream.
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Please do not use God and Trump in the same paragraph
 
Irwin Corey said:
On that one … AbsaByGodLutely YES!!!. They would be disproportionate for General Motors or Lockheed Martin … heck … AND Lockheed Martin.




I'll give you that, tRumps been surrounded by "noise" all his life … it may just be catching up with him; we'll see, won't we?
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I did a quick search for Lockheed Martin and lawsuits.... Page after page after page. Seems they have been hit for everything from age discrimination to 401K mismanagement to sexual harrassment... The 401k affected 120,000 employees.

Trump has his issues. Agreed. But let's at least be accurate.
 
SoCal said:
I Don't know anything about Harding, but I heard about Grant many years ago. I just took a quick look at the Wiki page and found three amazing close similarities to Trump;

"...Grant and his administration, including his cabinet, suffered many scandals, leading to continuous reshuffling of officials...

...The standards in many of his appointments were low, and charges of corruption were widespread...

...Nepotism was prevalent, with over 40 family members benefiting from government appointments and employment..."

No one knows yet, but Luckyone certainly could be right. I believe he is. In my lifetime Nixon has been the worst so far, but Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy The reason I believe he's worst then Grant and Harding is that unlike Trump, I've never heard of either being under suspicion of treason.

Don supporters can ignore him doing everything possible to act guilty, all the signs of him working secret deals with Val and his recent confession that he gets his intelligence from a murdering dictator who controls a nuclear arsenal that posses our county's greatest threat. But until the investigation is completed all either side has are opinions.

Trying to hide some hotel deal is one thing, but believing Putin when his own intelligence services says the opposite?!? Until I'm proven wrong, it's my opinion that we have our first treasonous president...
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Teapot Dome.

Considered the worst scandal prior to Watergate.

Secretary of the Interior went to jail for accepting Bribes.

It also led to the ability for Congress to compel testimony.
 
Fledermaus said:
I did a quick search for Lockheed Martin and lawsuits.... Page after page after page. Seems they have been hit for everything from age discrimination to 401K mismanagement to sexual harrassment... The 401k affected 120,000 employees.

Trump has his issues. Agreed. But let's at least be accurate.
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Key issue here is that Lockheed Martin is publicly owned corporation and it is not necessarily the CEO that is being sued but the company itself. In Trumps case, it is a privately owned entity and all the blame falls on him personally
 
Fledermaus said:
I did a quick search for Lockheed Martin and lawsuits.... Page after page after page. Seems they have been hit for everything from age discrimination to 401K mismanagement to sexual harrassment... The 401k affected 120,000 employees.

Trump has his issues. Agreed. But let's at least be accurate.
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Yes, lets. I will bet that adjusted for gross revenue tRump leads any other business; the guy has made a career of ****ing with his creditors and ****ing over customers, clients and contractors.
 
marke said:
Leftist Hitlaryite supporters have doggedly pursued anyone and everyone associated with president Trump to try to bring them down as a way to bring Trump down. This is no longer a civilized or just political process. It has become a process of wicked men using their positions of power to persecute and destroy their enemies in a bold attempt to overthrow God Bless America to reshape it in the image of their Goddamn America socialist Bolshevik demonic dream.
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Are you off your meds? To accuse your fellow AmeriCANs, that you do not know, of such treason is over reaching insanity.
 
Booming economy, higher wages, more jobs, new trade deals, progress on securing the border, winding down involvements abroad, no more NK missile launches, Iran neutered by sanctions, etc, etc, etc. Now, imagine if this guy were actually competent!!!! :lamo
 
Luckyone said:
Key issue here is that Lockheed Martin is publicly owned corporation and it is not necessarily the CEO that is being sued but the company itself. In Trumps case, it is a privately owned entity and all the blame falls on him personally
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And that changes the numbers how?
 
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