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Trump: "I don't care. I believe Putin"

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If this happened, Trump should be removed IMMEDIATELY.

"I don't care. I believe Putin."

That's what President Trump is alleged to have said in a discussion with U.S. intelligence regarding information he was given about North Korean intercontinental missiles and whether they could reach the United States.

It's a claim made by former FBI Acting Director Andrew McCabe, who told Scott Pelley he learned about the alleged comment from an FBI colleague who attended the meeting with Mr. Trump. McCabe was not at the meeting.

"The president launched into several unrelated diatribes. One of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of North Korea. And, essentially, the president said he did not believe that the North Koreans had the capability to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the United States. And he did not believe that because President Putin had told him they did not. President Putin had told him that the North Koreans don't actually have those missiles," McCabe said his colleague told him.

McCabe said U.S. intelligence officials at the briefing tried to tell the president otherwise.

"Intelligence officials in the briefing responded that that was not consistent with any of the intelligence our government possesses," McCabe said. "To which the president replied, 'I don't care. I believe Putin.'"
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Andrew McCabe interview: Trump allegedly said "I believe Putin" over U.S. intelligence, according to another FBI official - CBS News
 
He publicly said, on foreign soil, that he believed Putin's word rather than U.S. intelligence findings.
 
Of course. The idea that we need "evidence" he's Putin's puppet, is absurd. We have it. Continually.
Many times. On video/record. He's also in turn pushed nearly every possibly pro-Putin agenda item.

It's not like we need someone to quit over Trump's behavior (Mattis), or blow the whistle for the tenth time...it's all happened, it's just repetition at this point.
 
I just heard this too and started a thread on this topic. I have to say one thing about it. I agree with Putin that N. Korea doesn't yet have the capability of hitting the U.S. mainland with a nuclear missile. I have a friend that's an expert on this stuff and explained to me 2 years ago that N. Korea does not 'yet' have the capability to hit the mainland USA with a nuclear warhead.

BUT.... here's the sticky point. There was more than one intelligence agency in that briefing including the FBI. Each of them briefed Trump on the intelligence they had gathered on N. Korea and each of them concluded that N. Korea was a threat to the mainland USA. Why Trump would take the option of believing Putin over all of them is the question.
 
Just take a moment and imagine the CEC reaction had Obama said that he believed Putin over American intelligence officials.

The explosion from Glenn Beck's head alone would have been sufficient to register on the Richter Scale.
 
HumblePi said:
I just heard this too and started a thread on this topic. I have to say one thing about it. I agree with Putin that N. Korea doesn't yet have the capability of hitting the U.S. mainland with a nuclear missile. I have a friend that's an expert on this stuff and explained to me 2 years ago that N. Korea does not 'yet' have the capability to hit the mainland USA with a nuclear warhead.

BUT.... here's the sticky point. There was more than one intelligence agency in that briefing including the FBI. Each of them briefed Trump on the intelligence they had gathered on N. Korea and each of them concluded that N. Korea was a threat to the mainland USA. Why Trump would take the option of believing Putin over all of them is the question.
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Better to let the boss be right than risk getting in trouble?
 
Lycanthrope said:
Just take a moment and imagine the CEC reaction had Obama said that he believed Putin over American intelligence officials.

The explosion from Glenn Beck's head alone would have been sufficient to register on the Richter Scale.
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Imagine if everyone around Obama was going to prison. It'd be wall to wall gang leader memes.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Just take a moment and imagine the CEC reaction had Obama said that he believed Putin over American intelligence officials.

The explosion from Glenn Beck's head alone would have been sufficient to register on the Richter Scale.
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The if it were Obama is true but isn't this situation an emergency?

If this is true, Is this impeachable? Our president trusts our enemies over his own intelligence services.
 
Putin and the Russians no doubt think trump is a useful idiot...No doubt laughing at the United States for electing this fool
 
Amelia said:
He publicly said, on foreign soil, that he believed Putin's word rather than U.S. intelligence findings.
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You need to give him some slack.

After all Trump said it himself, Val "was extremely strong and powerful in his denial".
 
SoCal said:
You need to give him some slack.

After all Trump said it himself, Val "was extremely strong and powerful in his denial".
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Well, there ya go.
 
I mean really.....think this through for a second....

Obama bowed incorrectly (at least in the minds of the witless) and it was a sign of him hating America and all she stands for.

Trump openly says that he trusts a dictator more than his own intelligence agencies and he's applauded for it.

What a wonderful world we live in, amirite?
 
Amelia said:
He publicly said, on foreign soil, that he believed Putin's word rather than U.S. intelligence findings.
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His demeanor in that press conference was like that of a freshman seeking favor from The Big Man on Campus.
 
JackA said:
His demeanor in that press conference was like that of a freshman seeking favor from The Big Man on Campus.
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Well that was in public.

We all know that the paddle had already come out behind closed doors with no translators:

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bullseyelqcs said:
Well that was in public.

We all know that the paddle had already come out behind closed doors with no translators:

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Putin is smart. I am sure he uses a velvet glove with Trump. Butters him up with sympathy and pretty words. Praises him in ways which responsible leaders of democratic nations just can't lower themselves to do.
 
HumblePi said:
I just heard this too and started a thread on this topic. I have to say one thing about it. I agree with Putin that N. Korea doesn't yet have the capability of hitting the U.S. mainland with a nuclear missile. I have a friend that's an expert on this stuff and explained to me 2 years ago that N. Korea does not 'yet' have the capability to hit the mainland USA with a nuclear warhead.

BUT.... here's the sticky point. There was more than one intelligence agency in that briefing including the FBI. Each of them briefed Trump on the intelligence they had gathered on N. Korea and each of them concluded that N. Korea was a threat to the mainland USA. Why Trump would take the option of believing Putin over all of them is the question.
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Then by your friend's logic we shouldn't worry about them ever acquiring the capability.
And I beg to differ anyway.
DPRK has already successfully tested vehicles which will reach the West Coast, and what's holding them back is warhead sophistication, a potentially fungible commodity or worse yet, a rapidly vanishing handicap thanks to homegrown efforts.
At least with the former, we might have a chance at tracking black market overtures to secure a sophisticated warhead, with the latter, if they've finally developed it, they're not likely to send us any advance announcements to that effect.

And lastly, we're dealing with the fourth grade intellect of Donald Trump.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
If this happened, Trump should be removed IMMEDIATELY.



Andrew McCabe interview: Trump allegedly said "I believe Putin" over U.S. intelligence, according to another FBI official - CBS News
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In all fairness american intelligence has one of the worst record on earth of telling the truth, even putin beats them on truthfulness.

American intelligence mainly the cia and nsa have been more geared towards controlling foriegn policy than telling the truth, heck they have even admitted it, were I president I would probably not choose putin to believe but I would certainly not blindly trust the intel orgs who have spent decades lying and have admitted to such.
 
Maybe Trump won't even notice when he's in prison. He's so used to wearing orange already.
 
Saladin4 said:
Putin and the Russians no doubt think trump is a useful idiot...No doubt laughing at the United States for electing this fool
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He’s exposed many useful idiots.
 
but Hillary's emails and look, squirrel.
 
Trump and anybody else who doesn't realize Lukashenko and his KGB are the power behind the throne... dumbasses.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Then by your friend's logic we shouldn't worry about them ever acquiring the capability.
And I beg to differ anyway.
DPRK has already successfully tested vehicles which will reach the West Coast, and what's holding them back is warhead sophistication, a potentially fungible commodity or worse yet, a rapidly vanishing handicap thanks to homegrown efforts.
At least with the former, we might have a chance at tracking black market overtures to secure a sophisticated warhead, with the latter, if they've finally developed it, they're not likely to send us any advance announcements to that effect.

And lastly, we're dealing with the fourth grade intellect of Donald Trump.
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I don't believe that I've intentionally led anyone to believe that N. Korea will never have the capability of delivering a nuclear warhead on a guided missile. What I stated was that 2 years ago, he said that N. Korea did not yet have that capability, and he was right. Once again, that was two years ago, 2017 right after Kim tested a missile over the Sea of Japan. N. Korea will not have that capability for years to come.

Nuclear weapons are old technology, the new stuff is Star Wars stuff, lasers and electricity beams. The United States is way ahead with that technology. Also, rockets have to go up there in the atmosphere, the USA already has thousands of
satellites up there. Instead of a big giant laser in outer space, the USA has dozens of smaller lasers ready that can get close enough to any rocket. Once they're close they just need to fire that beam at the rocket and the laser will heat it up so much it will stop working. This technology is already available and working. Fear of N. Korea rockets hitting the U.S. is just propaganda. The truth is that the U.S. has been capable of shielding itself from any rocket since the Bill Clinton presidency, around 1992.

The latest places in which the USA just installed a sophisticated defense system was in Japan, South Korea, and South East Asia. Neither Russia or China cannot aim a rocket in any direction that is not shielded by the USA or their allies. By placing defense systems all over the world, the USA discourages any attack. Any big rocket coming from anyone, anywhere will be detected and taken down without asking who fired it, or where it's going.
 
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