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Do you fear becoming a minority?

RetiredUSN said:
Oh really?

Liberals love telling everyone we need to get rid of our cars and take a train, how we set our thermostats, how large of a Coke we can drink, attack free speech, attack conservative black people, arm the EPA better than some military outfits, use the IRS as a weapon against conservative groups.

What a BS partisan crock post.
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Talk about a case of the cauldron calling the pot black!

LOL
 
SoCal said:
Not as often as conservatives conflate illegal immigrants with refugees...
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If I may, SoCal, what percentage of those persons who are in the United States in violation of our immigrants do you presume are refugees? 10%? 30%? 99%? And how are we supposed to know whether people are legitimate refugees or not if they do not submit to the proper immigration channels or apply for asylum properly?
 
lwf said:
I am in favor of this. I believe a nation of many different cultures living in close proximity breeds superior citizens than a nation dominated solely by a single rigid culture. Avoiding interaction with other cultures is the cultural equivalent of inbreeding. The people of those cultures grow less and learn less. They lose the ability to adapt.

Weaknesses are cultivated in monolithic cultures. Strengths are cultivated in melting-pot cultures.
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I feel this is a contradiction. We either "meld" into a single culture or we become balkanized. We cannot have both.
 
Fear becoming a minority? No I just fear the crazy thinking of the left wing.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Oh really?

Liberals love telling everyone we need to get rid of our cars and take a train, how we set our thermostats, how large of a Coke we can drink, attack free speech, attack conservative black people, arm the EPA better than some military outfits, use the IRS as a weapon against conservative groups.

What a BS partisan crock post.
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Which Liberals are telling everyone they need to get rid of their cars and take a train?

Name some names and provide the links.

Which Liberals are telling you how to set your thermostat?

Name some names and provide the links.

Which Liberals are telling you how large a coke you can drink?

Name some names and provide some links.

Which Liberals are attacking free speech?

Name some names and provide some links.

Which Liberals are attacking Conservative black people?

Name some names and provide some links.

Which Liberals have armed the EPA better than some military outfits?

Name some names and provide some links.

Which Liberals used the IRS as a weapon against Conservative groups?

Name some names and provide some links.

PLEASE!!!
 
ecofarm said:
I spent years discussing/debating race in graduate school. Personal info was always irrelevant. Try debating with facts instead of opinions.
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In graduate school you wouldn't need to ask.
 
Fletch said:
Says the guy who has been here all of one month.
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We both migrated with some other folks from another political forum, where I interacted with LouC for longer than you’ve been on this forum.
 
Fletch said:
Yes. And that the idea that the right is racing further and further right is nonsense. It is the left that is racing further and further left as is clearly visible as the socialists rapidly takeover of the democrat party. Bill Clinton would never win the democratic nomination today. The democrats have become the party of the socialist Alexandria Dumbasio Cortez
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Yep, Bill couldn't win and JFK would be looked at as a crazed reactionary.
 
Dutch said:
I feel this is a contradiction. We either "meld" into a single culture or we become balkanized. We cannot have both.
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I would define balkanized cultures as rigid, monolithic cultures living in isolation, in spite of the fact that they might be in close geographic proximity. (The Middle East comes to mind.) When I refer to many different cultures living in close proximity as a melting pot culture, I mean individuals from many different cultures living together, governing together, and sharing customs.

But you're right: Given time and subsequent isolation, such a culture will eventually become a single monolithic culture. The way to avoid this is to remain open to other cultures moving in, assimilating, and changing the way said culture operates.

The strength of culture is its nebulosity. When it loses that, it stagnates.
 
tres borrachos said:
So he lives in Boise because it's 89% white (and of course you could prove that)? Or he's intentionally keeping non-whites out of Boise - or someone else is doing it (and you can prove all of that, too)?
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Nope, just like you can't prove that conservatives who live in white areas are living there for similar reasons or keeping non-whites out.
 
Dutch said:
In graduate school you wouldn't need to ask.
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It's not relevant. You're fixated for no reason, and that's causing you to base discussion on emotion and opinion instead of facts.
 
veritas1 said:
Nope, just like you can't prove that conservatives who live in white areas are living there for similar reasons or keeping non-whites out.
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So then why did you make that dumb post to him?

I didn't claim anything about where conservatives live.
 
Not a bit afraid of becoming a "minority". Can't wait to take advantage of some of the programs only available to minorities.:mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
Not a bit afraid of becoming a "minority". Can't wait to take advantage of some of the programs only available to minorities.:mrgreen:
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Hopefully by then we won't need those programs anymore.
 
lwf said:
Hopefully by then we won't need those programs anymore.
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I agree. It would be interesting to see if the new majority would keep the same programs for the new minority. I would not mind if Congress enacted laws to do away with many of the "minority" driven programs.
 
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mike2810 said:
I agree. It would be interesting to see if the new majority would keep the same programs for the new minority. I would not mind if Congress enacted laws to do away with many of the "minority" driven programs.
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Once systemic racism is a thing of the past, I agree 100%. We're getting close, but we're not there yet.
 
SoCal said:
"...She said she has been called a racist and a bigot. Asked whether she believes she is, Knowlton, who is white, responded adamantly, “No, because I don’t want to live amongst them..."

"...Her vote for Trump rests in something deeper than policies or proposals. For her, he is her champion, the champion of all of white America... ... “I want my country back,” she said..."


"...data shows that as minorities move into suburbs, white families are making small and personal decisions that add velocity to the momentum... ...They are increasingly choosing to self-segregate into racially isolated communities..." "...So as the country diversifies, white Americans are increasingly choosing to live among each other..."


"...his [Trump] blathering noise is all over the place. The unspoken signal is crystal clear: keep America white.

"...this explains why evangelicals were willing to vote for a man who so clearly did not live by their values – as he promised to keep them dominant..."


This explains why The Cult loves the idea of a wall. They don't care if it's not very effective, it's a symbolic manifestation of their fear of becoming a minority.

I've heard that whites will become a minority somewhere between 2044 and 2050. Given this known trend, how will whites react when 2044 approaches? Will 'white flight' rapidly accelerate? Will they become even more radical, wiling to vote for a Repub politician who's racism is even more overt than Trump's?

So I'm curious about Trump supporters here, How many feel some anxiety, but not panic? How many who fear this trend to the point of personally acting to stop it? And hopw far will they go, or more to the point, how low will they go trying to hang onto their dominance?
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Not a Trump supporter, but I explain the apparent anxiety of the quotes thusly: a changing economy, flatlining of wages, a somewhat changing population, “press one for English”, these changes create, in my view, the “I want my country back” sentiments. Trump can say MAGA without specifying when the country was great. His supporters translate it as “before all this stuff happened.” Stylistically its’s an essentially fascist appeal with “I alone can resolve this,” a hope to return to the quasi-mythical historical past that Mussolini referred to, and scapegoating of various “others.” We’ve seen the before. Got over it.

Trump seized on this, on Hillary hatred, and used the immigration issue brilliantly, combining regular republicans, Reagan Democrats, and the understandable worries of swing voters.
 
veritas1 said:
What the hell are you talking about? My point was clear and straightforward. Liberals are hypocrites. I doubt many migrants live in Pelosi's neighborhood but anyone wanting to limit their influx is somehow racist. It's all about the hypocrisy which they dish out daily.
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The topic is diversity and you brought up liberals living behind walls. So I asked you direct, relevant questions about YOUR statements.

What do walls have to do with diversity? Walls supposedly are non-discriminatory regarding race or ethnicity...yes or no? So then why did you bring up walls when the topic is diversity? Please explain.
 
Dutch said:
How can I carry on a discussion about race without knowing the race and culture/subculture of the person I'm debating? That isn't "personal experience" it's having a level playing field.
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Most of us do it here, everyday, all the time.

Because our comments and perspectives arent based on other peoples' race or ethnicity or culture/subculture.

And mine dont change based on those things in a discussion. Why would they?
 
ecofarm said:
It's not relevant. You're fixated for no reason, and that's causing you to base discussion on emotion and opinion instead of facts.
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Hardly. The thread OP is predicated on race. Whites and those who are meant to replace them.

You and i hadn’t even started and you’ve already called me a racist. I posit that the whole premis of this thread is too structure the “debate” in such a way as to focus on whites supposed racism.

If we’re here for that, and we are, I’d like to know just which demographic I’m debating this issue with.
 
Lursa said:
Most of us do it here, everyday, all the time.

Because our comments and perspectives arent based on other peoples' race or ethnicity or culture/subculture.

And mine dont change based on those things in a discussion. Why would they?
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Nonsense. Our perspective are entirely based on our cultural/sub cultural perspectives. Having said that race “often” becomes part of the discussion as well.

Mexicans tend to be very proud of their culture and their narrative as a people. They think of themselves as native Americans. As often as not enough this also has political implications.

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LouC said:
I love Conservatives!

Being a Liberal myself I would never ever have known what I was supposed to think or how I was supposed to act if it wasn't for Conservatives so authoritatively affirming what being a Liberal is all about!

Thanks to so many Conservatives, without you all I could never be the LIBERAL that I have become!

Woo Hoo!

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I like the conservatives who want to pick for us who should run for the dems. I do owe them a debt of gratitude, the right. Without them I would not be aware of all the crimes, the invasions walking their way into america. Every woman on the face of the planet having abortions and bible study in public school. Without the right, I wouldn't know what color today is and how scared I should be...oh my aching stem-cells.
 
lwf said:
I would define balkanized cultures as rigid, monolithic cultures living in isolation, in spite of the fact that they might be in close geographic proximity. (The Middle East comes to mind.) When I refer to many different cultures living in close proximity as a melting pot culture, I mean individuals from many different cultures living together, governing together, and sharing customs.
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Muslims represent a patriarchal society that, more often than not, denies females the freedoms my subculture does. I don’t want that for the women and girls of my subculture.

White liberals subculture, feminists, are vehemently hostile to males. I wouldn’t want those values in my subculture.

But you're right: Given time and subsequent isolation, such a culture will eventually become a single monolithic culture. The way to avoid this is to remain open to other cultures moving in, assimilating, and changing the way said culture operates.

The strength of culture is its nebulosity. When it loses that, it stagnates.
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What you are referring to is, ultimately, assimilation. Okay.

Now, whose culture are the multitudes to assimilate to?
 
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Dutch said:
Nonsense. Our perspective are entirely based on our cultural/sub cultural perspectives. Having said that race “often” becomes part of the discussion as well.

Mexicans tend to be very proud of their culture and their narrative as a people. They think of themselves as native Americans. As often as not enough this also has political implications.
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I never said otherwise...and as you say, our cultural perspective is part of our discussions. That has nothing to do with our needing to know what the ethnicity/race/culture of others is (unless that is part of your particular *individual* or cultural perspective. Some cultures are racist, ethnophobic, etc).

It's what comes out in our discussions about ourselves....not about others.
 
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