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How will Texan's feel about Trump taking their land through imminent domain?

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If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
 
independentusa said:
If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
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Some may be fine with it but many won't.

Assuming that he gets past the injunctions which will immediately block his national emergency declaration, he will have big fights ahead in case those are still needed before we vote his Constitution-snubbing ass out of office.


As Trump visits border, Texas landowners prepare wall fight
 
independentusa said:
If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
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They already are. It will be a softball campaign opportunity for democrats: "I will not seize your land for political purposes!"
 
lwf said:
They already are. It will be a softball campaign opportunity for democrats: "I will not seize your land for political purposes!"
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Good point!

Gosh, him grabbing private citizens' land for his vanity project will be a great look for the GOP, won't it.

Yes, that will be a gimme for Democrats.
 
independentusa said:
If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
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It all depends on how much land is being expropriated and what the compensation is. Also, it is "eminent domain".
 
lwf said:
They already are. It will be a softball campaign opportunity for democrats: "I will not seize your land for political purposes!"
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That would actually be a very effective campaign slogan.
 
veritas1 said:
Just your money.....
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If it's a choice between a decrease of a few percentage points of my income or my house, gimme the democrats!
 
independentusa said:
If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
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You could ask the 79,000 people who tried to get into his last rally.
 
Amelia said:
Some may be fine with it but many won't.

Assuming that he gets past the injunctions which will immediately block his national emergency declaration, he will have big fights ahead in case those are still needed before we vote his Constitution-snubbing ass out of office.


As Trump visits border, Texas landowners prepare wall fight
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There won't be any injunctions. The national emergency will nip that in the bud.
 
bongsaway said:
Wrong on two posts in a row. You're on a roll now don't stop.
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Haven't you read up on the National Emergencies Act yet? You should.
 
independentusa said:
If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
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Let's make that eminent domain and I am pretty sure the President will be good at negotiating with land owners and making it worth their while that he won't have too much problem with any but the hard core fanatics and the very few who would be genuinely harmed by the barrier crossing their land. There are aesthetic as well as practical concerns, and all would need to be worked out.

Some years ago in our state, some residents, some of which were descendants of people on the old Spanish land grants, who organized and were determined to drive off the current land owners and reclaim that land as their 'rightful heritage'. There were more than a few burn outs coupled with terrorist threats and acts, more than a few assaults, some shootings and murders resulting. Ultimately the organized groups didn't get their land, but they did succeed in running off most, maybe all, of the rightful owners of the land who didn't want to risk their property, their families, their livestock.

So fast forward to those farmers and ranchers along the Rio Grande. Yes some are militantly anti-Trump and probably won't negotiate at all. But I am going to guess that lawlessness being so rampant along Mexico's northern border in recent times that a lot of them are concerned that some of the criminal element might be a threat to the Texans and/or their property. I suspect those folks might actually welcome a barrier that would better protect them and their property. Or maybe that isn't an issue at all.

We'll have to see how it goes.
 
bongsaway said:
No and I have no intention. We'll see what happens if he declares his emergency.
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shrug...

Then don't be surprised when your ignorance gets the appropriate reaction here.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

Then don't be surprised when your ignorance gets the appropriate reaction here.
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Ok, we'll see who's correct, my supposed ignorance or you absolute certainty the wall will be built.
 
bongsaway said:
Ok, we'll see who's correct, my supposed ignorance or you absolute certainty the wall will be built.
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Ummm...

You DO know the wall is being built as we converse, right?
 
independentusa said:
If Trump uses the emergency power to build his wall, most of the land he will have to confiscate through imminent domain will be in the state of Texas. How do you think that will fly with the people of Texas and how will that effect future elections in that Red State? I would think that the Congress people from that state might consider telling the president that this is not a good idea, what do you think?
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So you've spoken to all the landowners, or is this just more MADEUP SPECULATION?
 
Any land that would be claimed would only be enough that was necessary to hold the wall, not a persons entire estate. But I recall a few years ago when the landowners in Texas were complaining about all the illegals crossing their property. They did not feel safe, their properties were being trashed and the wanted the government to do something about it.

What has changed now that the landowners do not have a problem with people trespassing? Do they all of a sudden feel safer and that their land is now cleaner. Maybe now they feel so secure they are putting up signs that say You All Come Now... Somehow I don't think so.
 
Someone mentioned on here about a month ago that Bush 43 is still tied up in lawsuits based on eminent domain. This ****ing wall will never happen.

As far as Trump and his "national emergency," he can bluster all he wants, and he can even declare a national emergency, but the House and the Senate can join together and stop him if they feel he is acting irresponsibly.

And he is acting irresponsibly.


~ snip ~ [FONT=nyt-imperial, georgia, times new roman, times, serif] [/FONT]Under the National Emergencies Act, the House and the Senate can take up what is called a joint resolution of termination to end the emergency status if they believe the president is acting irresponsibly or the threat has dissipated. Representative Joaquin Castro, Democrat of Texas and the head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said late Thursday that he was ready to introduce such a resolution if Mr. Trump followed through. With a comfortable majority in the chamber, Democrats will most likely pass it or a similarly worded resolution. ~ snip ~

Trump Will Declare a National Emergency. What Happens Next? - The New York Times
 
700 miles of barriers have been constructed at the southern border since 2006 with little-to-no objection from elected Democrats.The Obama bollard fencing was showcased in a short video by PBS called “Obama’s Border Fencing” where a Texas resident living on the border complained that the fencing had been constructed by DHS in her backyard.The Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized the construction of 700 miles of the same style of bollard fence that Trump is building at the border, was supported by 26 Senate Democrats at the time. In the House, 64 Democrats joined 219 Republican lawmakers to fund the border fencing.

Those Democrats in support of funding the bollard border fencing included:

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Then-Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE)
Then-Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA
All 54 Senate Democrats, in 2013, voted again to commit funding to secure 700 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border in the Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act which was authored and introduced by Schumer.
 
Mycroft said:
You could ask the 79,000 people who tried to get into his last rally.
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I'm thinking most of those people don't own land on the border. But they are more than happy to have Trump confiscate someone else's land for his pet project. They are practically democrats.
 
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