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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Time will tell. I suppose it depends on the details of the diversions. It amounts to a spending cut for those departments.

    Goodness knows the MIC has resisted efforts to trim it's budget before. They have extensive political reach. You think the senators and reps whose districts are impacted aren't going to react?
    shrug...

    Perhaps those MIC guys can ask Pelosi to appropriate more money for them.
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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    The Wall is dead....deal with it. Trump won't be able to gain enough access to money and he will be challenged in the courts over either a National Emergency declaration or shifting funding. Good luck with that. The Dems have run out the clock on DonDon. In fact DonDon ran out the clock on himself.

    Then if he gets some money through court rulings v shifting funding he STILL will not have dealt with the eminent domain law suits that will come his way.

    The Wall is dead. When are Trumpets going to realize that Trump does not even want the thing. He wants the fight for the thing.

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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Declare Cimate Change a National Emergency.

    To be clear that would be just as absurd as Trump declaring a National Emergency to fund his Wall.
    Tell me...how do YOU think the National Emergencies Act can be used for climate change?
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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Tell me...how do YOU think the National Emergencies Act can be used for climate change?
    It can't....can't for the Wall either.

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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    Nah it's going to be so great when a Dem president pulls out the same type of **** Trump is doing and then you cons won't be able to do a damn thing about it. That's Winning.
    Except a Dem president will be trying to GIVE MONEY TO TERRORISTS, AGAINST THE WISHES ON CONGRESS, as OBAMA did for BOTH the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and Iran...as opposed to Trump trying to IMPROVE US NATIONAL SECURITY by strengthening our border.

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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Except a Dem president will be trying to GIVE MONEY TO TERRORISTS, AGAINST THE WISHES ON CONGRESS, as OBAMA did for BOTH the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and Iran...as opposed to Trump trying to IMPROVE US NATIONAL SECURITY by strengthening our border.

    BIG DIFF'.
    So how is that wall going to stop crimes like the one you mentioned? Oh yeah, it doesn't slick.
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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    The Wall is dead....deal with it. Trump won't be able to gain enough access to money and he will be challenged in the courts over either a National Emergency declaration or shifting funding. Good luck with that. Then if he gets some money through court rulings v shifting funding he STILL will not have dealt with the eminent domain law suits that will come his way.

    The Wall is dead. When are Trumpets going to realize that Trump does not even want the thing. He wants the fight for the thing.
    If Trump declares a national emergency, those eminent domain lawsuits will be rejected by the courts because of the provisions of the National Emergencies Act and because of previous laws passed by Congress.

    btw, who do you think will challenge his ability to access Executive Branch money or declare a national emergency? Who do you think has standing?
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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    It can't....can't for the Wall either.
    LOL!!

    It certainly can be used for the wall.

    You really should get educated about the National Emergencies Act before you start talking about it.
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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    If Trump declares a national emergency, those eminent domain lawsuits will be rejected by the courts because of the provisions of the National Emergencies Act and because of previous laws passed by Congress.

    btw, who do you think will challenge his ability to access Executive Branch money or declare a national emergency? Who do you think has standing?

    So you are now celebrating the possibility that the government is powerful enough to seize private citizens property with no legal recourse.

    Doesn't sound very conservative to me...

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    Re: How the wall will get finished... In 4 Easy Steps

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Mulvaney and Sen. Shelby revealed Trump will receive the money from other pots to complete the wall.

    Thatís key... and Mulvaney is a straight shooter.

    So.

    1. Trump signs the budget deal, gets peanuts for the wall, but enough for some construction. Trump employs funds Nancy and Chuck said he would never get.


    2. He employs the additional funds for the wall from the other pots.


    3. Law suits are filed... and lost.


    4. By the time the funds appropriated run out, heíll have access to the funds to complete the wall.


    More Winning.
    Yes, he has options available to him but every single option impinges on money that is tagged for some other department and if he uses that money it will cause more public condemnation. He was looking for the wall to be a physical sign of his being here and accomplishing what he promised but if he uses the money from other departments, the wall will become a laughing point of his incompetence.

    I don't believe that even as stupid as he is that he wants to leave a physical sign of his stupidity. My belief is that he will not do it.

    Then again, he may be just that stupid.
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