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Striking teachers, what should be done?

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Striking teachers, what should be done?

Remember these are the people who are responsible for our children learning.

My suggestion is we send them thoughts and prayers, that should make them feel better.

All the talk about how great the economy is, jobs everywhere and these people have the audacity to strike? What do they want? A living wage or something? How dare they.

In other words, we place our importance on a wall and who cares about teachers, they don't do a good job of babysitting my kids anyway. And yes, as a bad parent I do expect my kids teachers to keep them in line because I won't at home. We demand too much from these people who go into teaching with the highest ideals only to be kicked in the arse by society and irate parents. I wouldn't want the job.
 
We probably need to actually pay them a decent salary. Or get used to homeschooling.
 
We kill them. We use their bodies to construct Trump’s wall.

Trump supporters everywhere suddenly start running around their basements highfiving their cats.
 
Striking teachers, what should be done?
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Give them a raise and keep class sizes as small as possible. That would be a good start.
 
bongsaway said:
Striking teachers, what should be done?

Remember these are the people who are responsible for our children learning.

My suggestion is we send them thoughts and prayers, that should make them feel better.

All the talk about how great the economy is, jobs everywhere and these people have the audacity to strike? What do they want? A living wage or something? How dare they.

In other words, we place our importance on a wall and who cares about teachers, they don't do a good job of babysitting my kids anyway. And yes, as a bad parent I do expect my kids teachers to keep them in line because I won't at home. We demand too much from these people who go into teaching with the highest ideals only to be kicked in the arse by society and irate parents. I wouldn't want the job.
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Since teachers unionized in the late 70's, has there been a year where teachers were not on strike?
 
Yakshi said:
We kill them. We use their bodies to construct Trump’s wall.

Trump supporters everywhere suddenly start running around their basements highfiving their cats.
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Teachers in some school districts deal with students like you every day. Class room disruption, popping off in class to make students laugh, not taking the daily lesson plan seriously, etc. It is what makes teaching miserable. Then you have the lousy teachers in good schools that do a lousy job with well controlled students. We have 15% lousy kids, and 15% lousy teachers. The rest are pretty good.

In California, a strike in LA was just settled. More pay. I get that. But California is in the running for the coveted last place nationally in education.

A teacher's wet dream class is a room full of Asians.
 
bongsaway said:
Striking teachers, what should be done?

Remember these are the people who are responsible for our children learning.

My suggestion is we send them thoughts and prayers, that should make them feel better.

All the talk about how great the economy is, jobs everywhere and these people have the audacity to strike? What do they want? A living wage or something? How dare they.

In other words, we place our importance on a wall and who cares about teachers, they don't do a good job of babysitting my kids anyway. And yes, as a bad parent I do expect my kids teachers to keep them in line because I won't at home. We demand too much from these people who go into teaching with the highest ideals only to be kicked in the arse by society and irate parents. I wouldn't want the job.
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Teachers are actually paid very well. They have great benefits, great representation from their union, lots of vacation and sick days, etc..

IMO teachers need to be held more accountable. We need to structure teachers pay/job performance to how well their students perform. If students perform poorly, teachers should get demoted, get a pay reduction, or even lose their jobs.
 
chuckiechan said:
Teachers in some school districts deal with students like you every day. Class room disruption, popping off in class to make students laugh, not taking the daily lesson plan seriously, etc. It is what makes teaching miserable. Then you have the lousy teachers in good schools that do a lousy job with well controlled students. We have 15% lousy kids, and 15% lousy teachers. The rest are pretty good.

In California, a strike in LA was just settled. More pay. I get that. But California is in the running for the coveted last place nationally in education.

A teacher's wet dream class is a room full of Asians.
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More pay is not going to make better teachers. Probably just more lazy teachers. A teachers salary should be directly tied in how their students perform on tests. Something measurable.
 
Barnacle said:
Since teachers unionized in the late 70's, has there been a year where teachers were not on strike?
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IMO teachers get paid well considering how some/many are unqualified.

Again, it depends on the subject matter.
 
I think teachers leave the profession over money, but also over many other things.
I suspect if people were honest the political and bureaucratic BS the teachers have to put up with
is as big a reason as the money.
We also have to consider that teachers salaries are based on 9 month contracts, so look lower than they might be.
Say a new teacher fresh out of college starts at the national average starting salary of $38,617,
This is the same as a Liberal arts major starting at $51 K per year.
 
Bucky said:
More pay is not going to make better teachers. Probably just more lazy teachers. A teachers salary should be directly tied in how their students perform on tests. Something measurable.
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More pay always makes better teachers. More pay attracts more teachers. Schools have more teachers to choose from. Schools will select teachers with better experience and qualifications.

More pay always makes for better teachers.
 
Yakshi said:
More pay always makes better teachers. More pay attracts more teachers. Schools have more teachers to choose from. Schools will select teachers with better experience and qualifications.

More pay always makes for better teachers.
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You have no proof.
 
Saladin4 said:
Better to Spend 5 Billion on a stupid wall eh?
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Actually, more and more illegal immigrants that are flooded in our country means more and more illegal immigrants flooded in our public school system.
 
bongsaway said:
Striking teachers, what should be done?

Remember these are the people who are responsible for our children learning.

My suggestion is we send them thoughts and prayers, that should make them feel better.

All the talk about how great the economy is, jobs everywhere and these people have the audacity to strike? What do they want? A living wage or something? How dare they.

In other words, we place our importance on a wall and who cares about teachers, they don't do a good job of babysitting my kids anyway. And yes, as a bad parent I do expect my kids teachers to keep them in line because I won't at home. We demand too much from these people who go into teaching with the highest ideals only to be kicked in the arse by society and irate parents. I wouldn't want the job.
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Teachers are paid garbage. You talk about the responsibility to teach children, but they get paid garbage, have to spend a lot of their own money on their class, and more and more they are getting larger number of students per class. Some states pay for teachers is appalling. And they work hours long past school hours, grading, coming up with tests and assignments, etc.

This post just shows complete ignorance, and a lack of empathy. There may be plenty of jobs, but those jobs don't pay anything good either, or may have less benefits.


And its also dumb to say "hey, just go get another job" like its that easy. There are not a lot of good paying jobs out there.

Schools should not be funded out of property taxes. If we can spend billions on bombs and killing people half way across the world, and can give rich people billions in tax breaks, surely we can pay our teachers, fix out infrastructure, and help actual Americans instead of sending so much money overseas and to defense contractors who profit off of fomenting war

Bucky said:
More pay is not going to make better teachers. Probably just more lazy teachers. A teachers salary should be directly tied in how their students perform on tests. Something measurable.
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And this is how you get teachers and school's teaching to a test, instead of actually teaching. Or teachers cheating to get the scores up. Put a financial incentive on rigging the system it will likely happen
 
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Sampson Simpson said:
Teachers are paid garbage. You talk about the responsibility to teach children, but they get paid garbage, have to spend a lot of their own money on their class, and more and more they are getting larger number of students per class. Some states pay for teachers is appalling. And they work hours long past school hours, grading, coming up with tests and assignments, etc.

This post just shows complete ignorance, and a lack of empathy. There may be plenty of jobs, but those jobs don't pay anything good either, or may have less benefits.


And its also dumb to say "hey, just go get another job" like its that easy. There are not a lot of good paying jobs out there.

Schools should not be funded out of property taxes. If we can spend billions on bombs and killing people half way across the world, and can give rich people billions in tax breaks, surely we can pay our teachers, fix out infrastructure, and help actual Americans instead of sending so much money overseas and to defense contractors who profit off of fomenting war



And this is how you get teachers and school's teaching to a test, instead of actually teaching. Or teachers cheating to get the scores up. Put a financial incentive on rigging the system it will likely happen
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Professors can rake in 6 figures to over a million so to say they make garbage is not a true statement.
 
Bucky said:
Professors can rake in 6 figures to over a million so to say they make garbage is not a true statement.
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LOL, no matter how dumb you make yourself look, you just have to post the most dumb one liners, don't you? A professor at a university can make 6 figures after years and years of long hours and low salaries. We are talking about teachers. the average teacher salary is an appalling 36 K. Below the median, you can't tell me people are living the life making that salary.

Teacher Salaries in America – Niche Blog

Over a million? WTF are you talking about? Even presidents of universities don't make over a million dollars (maybe in some private colleges that is the case)

Why am I bothering, you are just trolling as usual
 
bongsaway said:
Striking teachers, what should be done?

Remember these are the people who are responsible for our children learning.

My suggestion is we send them thoughts and prayers, that should make them feel better.

All the talk about how great the economy is, jobs everywhere and these people have the audacity to strike? What do they want? A living wage or something? How dare they.

In other words, we place our importance on a wall and who cares about teachers, they don't do a good job of babysitting my kids anyway. And yes, as a bad parent I do expect my kids teachers to keep them in line because I won't at home. We demand too much from these people who go into teaching with the highest ideals only to be kicked in the arse by society and irate parents. I wouldn't want the job.
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Their employers need to prioritize their spending to make sure these people - where the rubber meets the road - are adequately compensated for their efforts. There also has to be a merit system so that exceptional teachers are rewarded for their performance and marginal/ineffective teachers are sent on their way.
 
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