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Not even Fox is ignoring Trump's lies about The Wall

Not even Fox is ignoring Trump's lies about "the wall". This is good to see.

Fox News: AP FACT CHECK: President Trump's border wall mirage

I don't know how they're representing it on their cable shows, but at least on their website they're acknowledging what a big fat liar Trump is.

I have been predicting that some small portion of additional physical barriers on the border will be built, Trump will assure us that counts as fulfilling his Great Wall Of Trump campaign promise and he will move onto some other immediate priorty - completely ignoring any talk of mandating E-Verify or doing much of anything else about the 12M to 20M illegal immigrants now inside the US.
 
Not even Fox is ignoring Trump's lies about "the wall". This is good to see.

Fox News: AP FACT CHECK: President Trump's border wall mirage

I don't know how they're representing it on their cable shows, but at least on their website they're acknowledging what a big fat liar Trump is.

Lie some MORE. Those were LYING ASS AP "FACT CHECKERS", not FOX...and they failed to cite a SINGLE LIE.

Try the ACTUAL FACTS:





.Before 2010, federal data show the border city was mired in violent crime and drug smuggling, thanks in large part to illicit activities spilling over from the Mexican side. Once the fence went up, however, things changed almost overnight. El Paso since then has consistently topped rankings for cities of 500,000 residents or more with low crime rates, based on FBI-collected statistics. The turnaround even caught the attention of former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other Obama administration officials, who touted it as one of the nation’s safest cities while citing the beefed-up border security there.

Federal data illustrates just how remarkable the turnaround in crime has been since the fence was built. According to FBI tables, property crimes in El Paso have plunged more than 37 percent to 12,357 from their pre-fence peak of 19,702 a year, while violent crimes have dropped more than 6 percent to 2,682 from a peak of 2,861 a year.The overall crime rate in El Paso continued to fall last year, prompting city leaders to trumpet the good news in a press release that noted, “Because El Paso is a border town, its low crime rate may surprise you.”


This town is proof that Trump’s wall can work
 
Not even Fox is ignoring Trump's lies about "the wall". This is good to see.

Fox News: AP FACT CHECK: President Trump's border wall mirage

I don't know how they're representing it on their cable shows, but at least on their website they're acknowledging what a big fat liar Trump is.

Red:
Depends on which of those shows you mean.
  • 3 p.m. --> Shepard Smith Reporting --> Trump's lies about some things have certainly been reported (video of the broadcast at the link), but I can't say all of them are. Smith is who Fox's execs have cited as their news guy, describing the rest as talk show hosts/entertainers. (Fox's execs know very well what they deliver, and they know many Fox viewers don't. The execs don't often volunteer or publicize that reality, but, as any good businessperson would, when they must, they own up to it.)
  • 2 p.m. --> The Daily Briefing --> I don't know what this show may or may not have reported.
  • 6 p.m. --> Special Report w/Bret Baier --> Some of Trump's lies likely have been mentioned.
  • 9 a.m. --> America's Newsroom --> I don't know what this show may or may not have reported.
  • Fox News channel's other programs --> You can safely wager they've barely, if at all, mentioned any untruths Trump's told re: the wall, national security or immigration.
 
Lie some MORE. Those were LYING ASS AP "FACT CHECKERS", not FOX...and they failed to cite a SINGLE LIE.

Try the ACTUAL FACTS:





.Before 2010, federal data show the border city was mired in violent crime and drug smuggling, thanks in large part to illicit activities spilling over from the Mexican side. Once the fence went up, however, things changed almost overnight. El Paso since then has consistently topped rankings for cities of 500,000 residents or more with low crime rates, based on FBI-collected statistics. The turnaround even caught the attention of former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other Obama administration officials, who touted it as one of the nation’s safest cities while citing the beefed-up border security there.

Federal data illustrates just how remarkable the turnaround in crime has been since the fence was built. According to FBI tables, property crimes in El Paso have plunged more than 37 percent to 12,357 from their pre-fence peak of 19,702 a year, while violent crimes have dropped more than 6 percent to 2,682 from a peak of 2,861 a year.The overall crime rate in El Paso continued to fall last year, prompting city leaders to trumpet the good news in a press release that noted, “Because El Paso is a border town, its low crime rate may surprise you.”


This town is proof that Trump’s wall can work

You get so angry.......its funny to watch. Stop running away. Lmao
 
I have been predicting that some small portion of additional physical barriers on the border will be built, Trump will assure us that counts as fulfilling his Great Wall Of Trump campaign promise and he will move onto some other immediate priorty - completely ignoring any talk of mandating E-Verify or doing much of anything else about the 12M to 20M illegal immigrants now inside the US.

This. Exactly right. The only thing more important to Trump then an actual wall is simply claiming a victory. The Trump media will at the ready to obfuscate, so all he has to do is say he won and Trump supoirters will embrace it.
 
This. Exactly right. The only thing more important to Trump then an actual wall is simply claiming a victory. The Trump media will at the ready to obfuscate, so all he has to do is say he won and Trump supoirters will embrace it.

Yep, meanwhile we the sheeple must simply accept 12M to 20M illegal immigrants roaming freely among us.
 
Yep, meanwhile we the sheeple must simply accept 12M to 20M illegal immigrants roaming freely among us.

That is unfortunate but since Trump has ICE in Cali acting as glorified policemen instead of cruising America hitting farm fields and construction sites to arrest illigals and SEVERELY fine employers, it is a problem we will have to contend with.

Sadly you could 5 walls border to border but if Trump refuses to address the disease (jobs for illigals) instead of the symptom (illigal immigration) it will continue.
 
Why would it ever be news that Trump is a liar? Hell, he lies massively more than Hillary could ever dream of.
 
It will be interesting to see how Trump spins the new bipartisan tentative border agreement. Trump gets substantially less than he demanded in December.

The heads of Trumps immigration handlers - Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh, Miller, et. al. - are already exploding in another rage.
 
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