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    Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian

    To a conservative mind, socialism is getting something for nothing. Yet this is what the president promotes for the wealthy

    merica will never be a socialist country,” Donald Trump declared in his State of the Union address. Someone should alert Trump that America is now a hotbed of socialism. But it is socialism for the rich. Everyone else is treated to harsh capitalism.

    In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs.
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    Socialism has joined the southern border wall & the caravans of migrants to Trump's list of boogeymen intended to scare people into voting for him. But behind the scenes he has created a socialist utopia for the rich members of Mar-A-Lago & his other high-priced golf clubs, hotels & resorts.
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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian

    To a conservative mind, socialism is getting something for nothing. Yet this is what the president promotes for the wealthy

    merica will never be a socialist country,” Donald Trump declared in his State of the Union address. Someone should alert Trump that America is now a hotbed of socialism. But it is socialism for the rich. Everyone else is treated to harsh capitalism.

    In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs.
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    Socialism has joined the southern border wall & the caravans of migrants to Trump's list of boogeymen intended to scare people into voting for him. But behind the scenes he has created a socialist utopia for the rich members of Mar-A-Lago & his other high-priced golf clubs, hotels & resorts.
    I have an old set of king cobra clubs that I just love and I suck at golf. Now if the prez wants to give me a free round at mar-a-lago, I'll give my clubs a washing before I play there.

    That's the real sad part that the average republican seems to not understand or doesn't want to understand. It's socialism for the top and capitalism for the bottom. We the taxpayers will save the 'free markets' after the greedy rich crash them.
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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    Class war rhetoric to the max. It hasn't changed in decades and decades. It's the exact same crap, over and over and over and over.

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Class war rhetoric to the max. It hasn't changed in decades and decades. It's the exact same crap, over and over and over and over.

    Yup, the rich have been taking all the wealth over and over and over again, nothing change, they have declared war on the 99%

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    I think it is fair to say at this point that when this absurd Trumpian nonsense is all said and done the cost to the country in real dollars will be eye popping and astronomical.

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by Sampson Simpson View Post
    Yup, the rich have been taking all the wealth over and over and over again, nothing change, they have declared war on the 99%
    Do me a favor and chant this over and over again a few hundred thousand more times. It just hasn't sunk in yet so I think I need you to keep repeating it.

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    [QUOTE=Neomalthusian;1069679217]Do me a favor and chant this over and over again a few hundred thousand more times. It just hasn't sunk in yet so I think I need you to keep repeating it.[/QUOTE

    Sorry but that doesn't prove him wrong. You should try again for our entertainment. Lmao

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    For the folks at the top, it is all about socializing the risk and capitalizing the profit. Two examples come to mind:

    First, in the pharmaceutical industry, the government invests millions of dollars in R&D searching for the latest medical breakthrough, and when that breakthrough comes, private companies then capitalize. Of course, they're not required to reimburse the taxpayers for that gift. For every one hundred drugs that go into clinical trials, only about one makes it to the market.

    Second, sports stadiums. Taxpayers are footing the bill so that millionaire players and billionaire owners can squabble over who gets the next few million. And when the owners secure a better deal elsewhere, the taxpayers are on the hook for a stadium to maintain. It's a disgrace.

    NASA did all the heavy lifting and now we enjoy live sporting events around the world, GPS, etc. No one is suggesting that the behemoth corporations that financially benefit from the blood and treasure invested in space pay back the taxpayers.

    If you've got a risk, invite the taxpayers to join you. However, once the risk is over, take the profits and tell the taxpayers to F off! That's socialism!
    That sucking sound you hear is the revolving door installed in the West Wing. Trump continues to hire the best people. Be careful, that door is about to start spinning faster than the rotors on Marine One.

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian

    To a conservative mind, socialism is getting something for nothing. Yet this is what the president promotes for the wealthy

    merica will never be a socialist country,” Donald Trump declared in his State of the Union address. Someone should alert Trump that America is now a hotbed of socialism. But it is socialism for the rich. Everyone else is treated to harsh capitalism.

    In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs.
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    Socialism has joined the southern border wall & the caravans of migrants to Trump's list of boogeymen intended to scare people into voting for him. But behind the scenes he has created a socialist utopia for the rich members of Mar-A-Lago & his other high-priced golf clubs, hotels & resorts.
    Yes the GOP is trying very hard to label the Democratic party socialist, just another scare tactic

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    Re: Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

    The OP quote claims that keeping your money rather than the government taking all of it by taxes is "getting something for nothing," or "socialism."

    The OP quote is truly bizarre as it is 100% from a socialist perspective. Banks (like nearly everyone) now pay less taxes under Trump. From this, the OPer claims that anyone who gets a tax break or uses tax deductions is a "socialist" because if you get to keep any of your own money you are "getting something for nothing." In fact it means you are allowed to keep more of what you have and earned.

    In the OP source's opinion, every dollar you have is you "getting something for nothing" because the government didn't take it in taxes.

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