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What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

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Interesting article. Really gets to the heart of what motivates those who support trump and gives little hope for others to burst their hate bubble. I think the articles very inciteful!

Trump voters are selfish: They love him because they identify with him | Salon.com

Trump's Republican and conservative supporters share the following attributes:

They are more likely to be authoritarians and to embrace other extreme right-wing ideologies.

They are racially resentful and hostile to nonwhites. This attitude is especially pronounced towards African-Americans.

They exhibit forms of toxic behavior associated with "collective narcissism."

They believe that white people are the real victims of racism in America.

They are political bullies who engage in social dominance behavior against individuals and groups they view as Other (nonwhites and immigrants, Muslims, gays and lesbians) or their political enemies (liberals and progressives).

They hold sexist and misogynistic views.

Trump's most extreme and enthusiastic supporters in the "alt-right" feature the "dark triad" of personality traits: narcissism, a propensity for violence, and a Machiavellian longing to manipulate others.

They have little regard for America's democratic norms and institutions and believe that winning at costs is all that matters -- even if that means siding with a foreign power such as Russia to elect Donald Trump

They live in regions of the United States where people are more likely to be unhappy, miserable and physically unwell and to suffer from the "deaths of despair."

They are attracted to Trump's threats of violence and his other antisocial behavior.

They are anti-intellectual, disdainful of higher education and hostile towards experts.

They possess a deep fear of death and social obsolescence which compels them towards "strong leaders," guns, superficial expressions of patriotism and Christian fundamentalism

They are extremely gullible and thus vulnerable to disinformation and other lies, as disseminated through the right-wing media.

They seek simple answers to complex problems and are quick to reject new and inconvenient information.
Either directly or indirectly, they want to hurt others whom they consider "un-American" or outside their tribe and community
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I think these attributes exist with most conservatives as well.
 
This is not new, anyone who didn't support trump recognized this not long after he opened his mouth for his first attacks on the criminals, murderers, gang members, ms13, rapists, drug dealers and some good people, like the ones holding the torches chanting jews will not replace us. Fine upstanding folks, if it hadn't been for those damn liberals there wouldn't have been any violence. After all, it came from both sides.

Republicans are the problem, not both sides. There is no sense of right and wrong, the right are all victims just like trump where everything is rigged against him and even with those odds, he still manages to 'win'. Willful ignorance.
 
The article is largely correct. Deplorables sought out somebody who they figured was just like them.... someone who was bigoted like they are ..... someone with the same prejudices as they hold .... somebody who believes in the same delusional alternate reality that they subscribe to. Trump gave the deplorable a sort of license to come from out under the rock and strut their hateful stuff in daylight among decent people and pretend they are decent human beings like everybody else.

The concluding findings are most insightful

There is nothing "normal" about Trump's political movement or his voters. This moment is a perilous outlier in modern American history. The country's democracy and future are in peril.

In total, Trump's voters are in a political, symbolic and emotionally transactional relationship with him and the Republican Party. Ultimately, Trump is likely to be re-elected in 2020 if his supporters are understood to be "innocents" who were somehow tricked into supporting him.

Donald Trump has agency. His voters have agency. Together they have chosen a path that may bring lasting ruin to American society.
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I have been saying it for two years now - Trump represents the greatest threat to America and our people in the last three-quarters of a century. He must be removed from office by any legal means necessary ASAP.
 
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What strikes me most about this kind of thing is how similar it is to the propaganda aimed at German citizens regarding Jews in the 30s. Add in the occasional poster who mentions how America would be better off if Trump supporters were all dead and the similarities become even more stark.

This kind of thing is designed to dehumanize a given human objective. It's why "pro-choice" people refer to pre-natal babies only in strict medical terms or, in some cases, as "an existential threat that only gets worse as it grows". It's a method of rationalizing the atrocity which either just occurred or is expected to soon follow the comment.
 
Huh. Inciteful, or insightful? I'm going with the former.
 
lurchadams said:
Interesting article. Really gets to the heart of what motivates those who support trump and gives little hope for others to burst their hate bubble. I think the articles very inciteful!

Trump voters are selfish: They love him because they identify with him | Salon.com



I think these attributes exist with most conservatives as well.
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This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
 
Power motivates them, just like power motivates Democrats to allow alleged rapists and racists to stay in office in Va
 
Lutherf said:
What strikes me most about this kind of thing is how similar it is to the propaganda aimed at German citizens regarding Jews in the 30s. Add in the occasional poster who mentions how America would be better off if Trump supporters were all dead and the similarities become even more stark.

This kind of thing is designed to dehumanize a given human objective. It's why "pro-choice" people refer to pre-natal babies only in strict medical terms or, in some cases, as "an existential threat that only gets worse as it grows". It's a method of rationalizing the atrocity which either just occurred or is expected to soon follow the comment.
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I see your point that there is a lot in common with the anti-Jewish movement in Germany in the Thirties and the Trumpkins of today.
 
Well, at least you didn't resort to stereotyping or using a biased source link. Perhaps you should ask Hillary how asserting that half of Trump supporters are deplorable worked out before boldly asserting that most are deplorable.
 
TheGoverness said:
This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
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No doubt your dad is a good person Governess. You are right to defend him.

This is a war for the heart and soul and institutions of America pure and simple. It is the Trumpkins versus everybody else and where a person stands on which side of that line is how they are going to be judged by the other side. Those who stand with Trump will be judged accordingly.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Well, at least you didn't resort to stereotyping or using a biased source link. Perhaps you should ask Hillary how asserting that half of Trump supporters are deplorable worked out before boldly asserting that most are deplorable.
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The fact that it caused criticism to be heaped upon her does not make her remark less true.
 
haymarket said:
The fact that it caused criticism to be heaped upon her does not make her remark less true.
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Carry on then and demand that all demorat 2020 POTUS candidates make that point as often as possible. Telling the truth is absolutely the best way to win elections.
 
TheGoverness said:
This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
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That’s just not possible. Read the threads here or ask a few folks who’ve already posted on this thread. Your dad is secretly a klan member or Nazi who is burning crosses in the back yard while you’re away at school and is actively trying to restrict your rights. You best be barefoot and in the kitchen if you want his love.

Ok sacracim off now
 
TheGoverness said:
This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
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Why does it take one of our opponents who is so young and unjaded by life to give such a thoughtful reply?


She makes me almost embarrassed by half the stuff I say on here but being older and more cynical, my first instinct is to always punch back.
 
haymarket said:
No doubt your dad is a good person Governess. You are right to defend him.

This is a war for the heart and soul and institutions of America pure and simple. It is the Trumpkins versus everybody else and where a person stands on which side of that line is how they are going to be judged by the other side. Those who stand with Trump will be judged accordingly.
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See, I feel like this is huge problem. Everything is Us vs. Them. But why does it have to be? It's like I have to look at someone in a negative light because they happen to not hold the same political views that I do. It's just not a good mentality to have. I get that I don't agree with Trump supporters on most things. But it's one thing to disagree, and it's another to think that they are all vile people.
 
Mycroft said:
This is nothing but self-serving claptrap that the Trump hating useful idiots will love.
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WOW!!! It really must have struck close to home for you!!!!
 
TheGoverness said:
This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
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But without blanket generalizations, how are we to dismiss large swaths of people who don't think the same things with so little effort?
 
TheGoverness said:
See, I feel like this is huge problem. Everything is Us vs. Them. But why does it have to be? It's like I have to look at someone in a negative light because they happen to not hold the same political views that I do. It's just not a good mentality to have. I get that I don't agree with Trump supporters on most things. But it's one thing to disagree, and it's another to think that they are all vile people.
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You are right Governess. It does not HAVE to be this way. But right now it is. And it will be until we flush Trump and his ilk from our system.

I would agree that all the Trumpkins are NOT vile people. But a whole lot of them are. A whole lot of them are the vile people described in that article. Those people exist and are very very real.

This is a war and it will be taken to its logical conclusion with one side winning.
 
dobieg said:
Why does it take one of our opponents who is so young and unjaded by life to give such a thoughtful reply?


She makes me almost embarrassed by half the stuff I say on here but being older and more cynical, my first instinct is to always punch back.
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I like to read the Governess comments. They are refreshing. They are also the product of a young person who has not yet seen the ugly underbelly of some of society and the people who inhabit it in all their ugliness. Time has a way of taking care of those rose colored glasses.
 
Cruelty is their point.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Carry on then and demand that all demorat 2020 POTUS candidates make that point as often as possible. Telling the truth is absolutely the best way to win elections.
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I would hope that all candidates tell the truth.

btw- I do not think the Deplorables remark cost Clinton the election. It did not help her. It may not have been PC to make that remark the way she did without enough context added to it - but it was not the main reason why she lost the Electoral College.
 
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