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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongidig View Post
    Or maybe it's just jealousy towards white people.
    For what reason? For the record, I myself am a white man. I'm also a 6'2", 220 lbs three-sport athlete with a six-figure salary and a genius level IQ. All of these factors tend to make me far less insecure than the average white person which is why I have no problem without outsiders, foreigners, minorities and the poor receiving help through my tax dollars.
    Obstruction of Justice also applies to overt coercion of court or government officials via the means of threats or actual physical harm and also applying to deliberate sedition against a court official to undermine the appearance of legitimate authority.

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    For what reason? For the record, I myself am a white man. I'm also a 6'2", 220 lbs three-sport athlete with a six-figure salary and a genius level IQ. All of these factors tend to make me far less insecure than the average white person which is why I have no problem without outsiders, foreigners, minorities and the poor receiving help through my tax dollars.
    Why do I have a feeling you are actually 5'3, 146 lbs never played sports, currently going for your GED, unemployed and still living at home?

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are right Governess. It does not HAVE to be this way. But right now it is. And it will be until we flush Trump and his ilk from our system.

    I would agree that all the Trumpkins are NOT vile people. But a whole lot of them are. A whole lot of them are the vile people described in that article. Those people exist and are very very real.

    This is a war and it will be taken to its logical conclusion with one side winning.
    *rolling eyes*


    How 'bout we take some extreme subsets of your side to generalize everyone who is a liberal.


    I would love to see a grownup conversation around here without all the over the top hyperbole but not a day goes by where it's not insinuated, suggested or just right out said that we are all a bunch of old white men racists, Nazis, fascists, women hating, Confederate loving trailer park trash with sum'mer teeth.


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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I see your point that there is a lot in common with the anti-Jewish movement in Germany in the Thirties and the Trumpkins of today.
    There are fewer than 100 pages left for me to read in Robert Harris' phenomenal book, Munich. It was written in 2014/15 and published in 2017. The parallels between Germany and Europe in the late 30s and the US today are at times astounding.








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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    I think you mean we need to have a cutoff. If you're 80 or older it's unlikely the decisions made today will ever truly impact your life. Combine that with the natural decline of a person's mental faculties as they age, the sheer size of the baby boomer generation, and the lengthening of the average life expectancy, and you have a serious threat that the older population can do major harm to their children with their ignorance.
    I think we need to cutoff all people who's brains aren't fully developed, don't speak English, are on drugs, people who vape etc.

    I agree, older people should be cutoff if they are losing it.

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

    I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
    You make that happen, Gov. I'm behind you 100%!

    Personally, I feel your desire to defend your parents is offsetting your ability to think rationally about those who support trump and this **** show of an administration.

    I'm sorry you think the article is ****, but I think there is much truth to it.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    There are fewer than 100 pages left for me to read in Robert Harris' phenomenal book, Munich. It was written in 2014/15 and published in 2017. The parallels between Germany and Europe in the late 30s and the US today are at times astounding.
    Do they mention the influence of social media in this book? I get the feeling that things may have turned out differently if they had the internet back then.

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    This is nothing but self-serving claptrap that the Trump hating useful idiots will love.
    It's pretty clear to me, based on my observations - some from you in particular, my friend - that this article speaks the truth.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    Please. Are you ****ing kidding me? You seriously think that changed a single vote? Nope. Sorry. In fact, I'd say apologizing for that remark was one of the biggest mistakes she made. Trump has made hundreds of statements that are far more reprehensible and offensive than that, but he never apologizes for them. It was the fact that she apologized that made people think she was weak. That she wasn't telling us what she really felt. That she was being disingenuous.

    Donald Trump's core base is in fact made up of disgusting racist ignoramuses. That's not an opinion that's a fact, and she should have stuck to her guns and told it like it is. Apologizing just made it seem like she wasn't a straight shooter. Like she was another lying politician trying to crafter her message to win votes.

    A lot of stupid voters don't like that. Even if it is something that a politician should be doing they view it negatively. They equate choosing your words wisely with being deceitful or manipulative. It reminds me of women who think nice guys are better than bad boys because at least they know bad boys aren't pretending to be something they're not. It's dumb thinking, but it's still how a lot of average voters think.
    I agree that (bolded above) was her main problem. Hillary was solidly for all three sides of a given issue, yet somewhat against it under certain circumstances. Attacking the other candidate's supporters (potential voters?) is always a bad move whether you stick to it or not. Trump used DC swamp dwellers, illegal immigrants, terrorists and criminals as his "boogie man" while Hillary used coal miners, gun owners and potential Trump supporters ("racist" American voters who were not yet Hillary supporters?) as her "boogie man" - a very dumb move.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What strikes me most about this kind of thing is how similar it is to the propaganda aimed at German citizens regarding Jews in the 30s. Add in the occasional poster who mentions how America would be better off if Trump supporters were all dead and the similarities become even more stark.

    This kind of thing is designed to dehumanize a given human objective. It's why "pro-choice" people refer to pre-natal babies only in strict medical terms or, in some cases, as "an existential threat that only gets worse as it grows". It's a method of rationalizing the atrocity which either just occurred or is expected to soon follow the comment.
    Yep. Demagoguery bull**** at its finest, my friend.

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