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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    This is a crap article. But then again, that's pretty much the only thing that comes out of Salon. This is just a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. For example, my dad is a MAGA supporter, although he's not as vocal about it as some people are. My dad is none of that crap. He's a good person, who I just happen to disagree with politically.

    I think we need to stop with the blanket generalizations of large swaths of people. It's silly.
    But without blanket generalizations, how are we to dismiss large swaths of people who don't think the same things with so little effort?
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    See, I feel like this is huge problem. Everything is Us vs. Them. But why does it have to be? It's like I have to look at someone in a negative light because they happen to not hold the same political views that I do. It's just not a good mentality to have. I get that I don't agree with Trump supporters on most things. But it's one thing to disagree, and it's another to think that they are all vile people.
    You are right Governess. It does not HAVE to be this way. But right now it is. And it will be until we flush Trump and his ilk from our system.

    I would agree that all the Trumpkins are NOT vile people. But a whole lot of them are. A whole lot of them are the vile people described in that article. Those people exist and are very very real.

    This is a war and it will be taken to its logical conclusion with one side winning.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by dobieg View Post
    Why does it take one of our opponents who is so young and unjaded by life to give such a thoughtful reply?


    She makes me almost embarrassed by half the stuff I say on here but being older and more cynical, my first instinct is to always punch back.
    I like to read the Governess comments. They are refreshing. They are also the product of a young person who has not yet seen the ugly underbelly of some of society and the people who inhabit it in all their ugliness. Time has a way of taking care of those rose colored glasses.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Cruelty is their point.

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Carry on then and demand that all demorat 2020 POTUS candidates make that point as often as possible. Telling the truth is absolutely the best way to win elections.
    I would hope that all candidates tell the truth.

    btw- I do not think the Deplorables remark cost Clinton the election. It did not help her. It may not have been PC to make that remark the way she did without enough context added to it - but it was not the main reason why she lost the Electoral College.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    See, I feel like this is huge problem. Everything is Us vs. Them. But why does it have to be? It's like I have to look at someone in a negative light because they happen to not hold the same political views that I do. It's just not a good mentality to have. I get that I don't agree with Trump supporters on most things. But it's one thing to disagree, and it's another to think that they are all vile people.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are right Governess. It does not HAVE to be this way. But right now it is. And it will be until we flush Trump and his ilk from our system.

    I would agree that all the Trumpkins are NOT vile people. But a whole lot of them are. A whole lot of them are the vile people described in that article. Those people exist and are very very real.

    This is a war and it will be taken to its logical conclusion with one side winning.



    Because this mentality is rampant in partisans of both partis is why Governess

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chillfolks View Post
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    Because this mentality is rampant in partisans of both partis is why Governess
    Pretending that life should be a Disney POLLYANNA movie will not change the ugly reality we are in right now because of Trump.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are right Governess. It does not HAVE to be this way. But right now it is. And it will be until we flush Trump and his ilk from our system.

    I would agree that all the Trumpkins are NOT vile people. But a whole lot of them are. A whole lot of them are the vile people described in that article. Those people exist and are very very real.

    This is a war and it will be taken to its logical conclusion with one side winning.
    I think the rampant antagonism is not going to help any of us in the long run. I get being passionate, and I am when it comes to my own liberal beliefs, but I just can't make those kinds of blanket statements.
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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What strikes me most about this kind of thing is how similar it is to the propaganda aimed at German citizens regarding Jews in the 30s. Add in the occasional poster who mentions how America would be better off if Trump supporters were all dead and the similarities become even more stark.

    This kind of thing is designed to dehumanize a given human objective. It's why "pro-choice" people refer to pre-natal babies only in strict medical terms or, in some cases, as "an existential threat that only gets worse as it grows". It's a method of rationalizing the atrocity which either just occurred or is expected to soon follow the comment.
    Oh, horse****! If you must compare something from now to the way jews were spoken of in the 1930s in Germany, the comparison only comes close to how Trump and his supporters talk about Mexicans and Central Americans wanting to come here to escape violence and make betters lives for their families. THERE is your analogy.

    Sheesh. Amazing how the right jumps to that victim card whenever possible. You would think the rest of us were Romans throwing y'all to the lions in the arena. Never, not once, have I ever heard or read anyone stating that they want all Trump supporters dead. Hyperbole much?

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    Re: What Motivates a Trump Supporter and Can Appeal to their Sense of Right and Wrong?

    I'm been convinced for years that a ton of this goes back to money, sex and sports. Many Trump voters feel inadequate to minorities.

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