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    The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    I thought this video was well worth the 30 minutes to watch. You don't see many in the media make any attempt at considering black conservatives view points. More often than not you'll see a lot of the media condemn and make fun of them whenever they're brought up. And although the reporter in this did give his own views he also didn't let it interfere with what the story was about. Something you don't see too often anymore.

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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    I watched the video. I saw something in it that is very common to see here on these forums, and I don't think it has anything to do with attitudes of black people.

    It was during that little get together between the two conservative women and the group of people who don't like Trump.

    1. The two conservative women seemed to be concerned with "what Trump is doing" and they support what he is doing.

    2. The others, especially that fellow with all the hair, seemed to be concerned more with "what Trump is saying" and they dislike Trump for that.

    This is right in line with most of the people here on DP. You have those who are obsessed with what Trump is saying (or with what the media tells them he's saying) and those who are concerned with what Trump is actually doing and how it affects our country, our economy and people's lives.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I watched the video. I saw something in it that is very common to see here on these forums, and I don't think it has anything to do with attitudes of black people.

    It was during that little get together between the two conservative women and the group of people who don't like Trump.

    1. The two conservative women seemed to be concerned with "what Trump is doing" and they support what he is doing.

    2. The others, especially that fellow with all the hair, seemed to be concerned more with "what Trump is saying" and they dislike Trump for that.

    This is right in line with most of the people here on DP. You have those who are obsessed with what Trump is saying (or with what the media tells them he's saying) and those who are concerned with what Trump is actually doing and how it affects our country, our economy and people's lives.
    Exactly...doing. He's not a polished politician just a shrewd businessman. People who don't see that are making a common mistake.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    In a sad way, I can see why young black conservatives having a hard time challenging conventional norms. What politics has done to racial matters has drawn division lines that are contradictory to what the original civil rights leaders advocated for, and we have gone so far down this road that challenge means being called a "traitor to your race" (quote from the OP video.)

    I've been convinced for long enough that the efforts of civil rights have shifted, in a way hijacked, into a political model that equates to votes. The business of finding racism and calling someone racist became far more important than actually doing something about racism. The idea of education being the means to handle social fault was discarded for the political benefit of keeping an entire group of voters making their vote based on fear of opposition (another quite from the OP video.)

    Here is the rub though, most campaigning for a vote is based on speaking to a demographic or based on fear (or both.) And it would be grossly inaccurate to suggest that black conservatives found a home in a party that does not engage in the same behavior.

    It makes sense that some within the black community would feel removed or ignored by mainstream Democrats these days, what I question is the conclusions of the video suggesting mainstream Republicans care much for economic and social issues that tend to dominate minority voting intentions. All evidenced by even in better economic times minorities tend to still lag behind.

    The other concern is I might end up being accused of racism simply by pointing out these things.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Why is it more black folks aren't catching this wave? What is being discussed here sounds like folks are trying to take the five percent of blacks who support trump into the majority of black folks. Just take a look at the congress members of the GOP, how many black folks do you see? It's like when trump claims the lowest unemployment numbers in history for blacks and hispanics. As if anything the republican party did was the cause. Let's face it, the GOP is nine tenths for white folks, it's why a border wall is absolutely necessary for the right.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I thought this video was well worth the 30 minutes to watch. You don't see many in the media make any attempt at considering black conservatives view points. More often than not you'll see a lot of the media condemn and make fun of them whenever they're brought up. And although the reporter in this did give his own views he also didn't let it interfere with what the story was about. Something you don't see too often anymore.

    Good video.

    As a Black American myself I find what these young people are saying resonates with my experience.

    I joined this Forum 5.5 years ago, and I intentionally refused to reveal my race during discussions about race-related issues. This because I wanted to be judged on the content of my posts (i.e. my "character") as opposed to the color of my skin (i.e. claiming special consideration).

    I held to that for the most part until shortly after the 2016 election period when my defense of Trump's statements and policies ended up with accusations I was expressing my "White privilege." (Like David Webb per Areva Martin.)

    Then I found that after revealing it to counter this smear I was faced with assertions from some Forum members that I was either a "race traitor," or a "White supremacist" in sheep's clothing (2 of the only 3 people I have ever placed on ignore).

    It really is hard for some people to believe that there are independent minded Black Americans. IMO this is due in great part to the narrative over the last 50 years that we are all victim's of never-ending racism, perpetually child-like and innocent who must be taken care of by those who know what is best for us.

    Small wonder many of us are breaking away from the Democratic plantation.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Exactly...doing. He's not a polished politician just a shrewd businessman. People who don't see that are making a common mistake.
    He is and always has been a con man. He is doing nothing but enriching himself, his family and his so called friends.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    He is and always has been a con man. He is doing nothing but enriching himself, his family and his so called friends.
    You mean he's helping take away the chains that bind our economy. Socialism doesn't work.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I watched the video. I saw something in it that is very common to see here on these forums, and I don't think it has anything to do with attitudes of black people.

    It was during that little get together between the two conservative women and the group of people who don't like Trump.

    1. The two conservative women seemed to be concerned with "what Trump is doing" and they support what he is doing.

    2. The others, especially that fellow with all the hair, seemed to be concerned more with "what Trump is saying" and they dislike Trump for that.

    This is right in line with most of the people here on DP. You have those who are obsessed with what Trump is saying (or with what the media tells them he's saying) and those who are concerned with what Trump is actually doing and how it affects our country, our economy and people's lives.
    Lemme help you out here, just real quick: The vast majority of what Trump says AND does is garbage. Because Trump is garbage. The end.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Exactly...doing. He's not a polished politician just a shrewd businessman. People who don't see that are making a common mistake.
    A "shrewd" business man who filed for bankruptcy six times, you mean...you left that last part out there, W.
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