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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

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    Yeah, there are a couple more lines that only furious, old white conservatives like to rant about, but those are the favorites.

    You forgot “fundamentally transform.”
    That too.

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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by <alt>doxygen View Post
    Yes, it's now the Party of Trump. He owns it. It only took Trump 2 years. The GOP is wrapped in Trumpism. That means a lot of things, most of which I don't like. If you think those things are positive, go with it.

    Are there other changes the GOP made that I'm missing?

    The dems are changing as well. Sanders had an effect on them.
    Bold: Yes. The video in the OP shows it.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Sorry, but anything that includes Ms. Candace "Lying shill for fracking industry" Owens as a legitimate voice for young black conservatives is not worth my time.
    You were never going to watch the video to begin with. If you had then you would have found out that Ms. Owens was in the video on your own instead of waiting to pipe up until after someone already mentioned her.

    And it doesn't matter whether YOU think she's a legitimate voice for black conservatives, it matters what black conservatives and those becoming disillusioned with the DNC that listen to her and agree with her think.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Don't get me wrong, the change is not going to be immediate. I don't expect the numbers to reflect that big of a change in 2020. But over time, in the long run, there IS going to be change. Unless something drastic happens social change is always slow.
    No offense intended but the GOP isn't real good at being on the right side of social change, which leads me to this thought. Politics for the younger generations is becoming more of a social issue than a fiscal issue or religious and there are a good bit of younger people who have been negatively effected by these school shootings. I don't see the GOP winning many of them over either.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I watched the video. I saw something in it that is very common to see here on these forums, and I don't think it has anything to do with attitudes of black people.

    It was during that little get together between the two conservative women and the group of people who don't like Trump.

    1. The two conservative women seemed to be concerned with "what Trump is doing" and they support what he is doing.

    2. The others, especially that fellow with all the hair, seemed to be concerned more with "what Trump is saying" and they dislike Trump for that.

    This is right in line with most of the people here on DP. You have those who are obsessed with what Trump is saying (or with what the media tells them he's saying) and those who are concerned with what Trump is actually doing and how it affects our country, our economy and people's lives.
    You know, this idea that it doesnít matter what a President says is new. Trump supporters started spreading that nonsense when they realized it was way too much work defending every ridiculous thing Trump says. And I am sorry it is inconvenient, but we arenít buying that line. Yeah, what a President does matters more, but what a President says matters a lot too.

    Iíll buy that argument when it comes to congress members and judges. Yeah, all that matters with them in regards to my life is how they vote or how they rule. But the President is the leader of our country. He represents us on the global stage. He speaks for us as a nation. So yes, what the President says ABSOLUTELY matters. I have always believed that and I am not going to cut this particular President slack on that just because he doesnít how to think before he speaks.

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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold: Yes. The video in the OP shows it.
    I'll wait for the dust to settle and see what the parties look like. I've been around long enough to know that what they say is meaningless. Look at what they do consistently instead.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You were never going to watch the video to begin with. If you had then you would have found out that Ms. Owens was in the video on your own instead of waiting to pipe up until after someone already mentioned her.

    And it doesn't matter whether YOU think she's a legitimate voice for black conservatives, it matters what black conservatives and those becoming disillusioned with the DNC that listen to her and agree with her think.
    The issue is she is another corrupted, paid for voice, and she's repugnantly ignorant. Although, I guess you could say she is honest. She at least blatantly admits she doesn't give a **** about our environment.

    And no, I won't watch the video if she is on the cover. I'll watch something that talks about blacks supporting trump, but won't listen to her malignant nonsense at all.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I watched the video. I saw something in it that is very common to see here on these forums, and I don't think it has anything to do with attitudes of black people.

    It was during that little get together between the two conservative women and the group of people who don't like Trump.

    1. The two conservative women seemed to be concerned with "what Trump is doing" and they support what he is doing.

    2. The others, especially that fellow with all the hair, seemed to be concerned more with "what Trump is saying" and they dislike Trump for that.

    This is right in line with most of the people here on DP. You have those who are obsessed with what Trump is saying (or with what the media tells them he's saying) and those who are concerned with what Trump is actually doing and how it affects our country, our economy and people's lives.
    Maybe I'm strange, but I object to a lot of Trump's actions. I knew within 2 months of his taking office that he would never filter his words - he isn't capable of it. I let what he says slide unless it turns into a market crash or something else concrete.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You mean he's helping take away the chains that bind our economy. Socialism doesn't work.
    No, he is fueling the economy by getting us much deeper into debt.
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    Re: The Young Black Conservatives of Trumpís America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That's the thing, I don't think the GOP actually needs to change all that much. While yes, it has its problems, it's not near as big as those on the opposite side like to portray it as. As pointed out in the video by some, the DNC likes to portray Republicans as racist as a fear tactic. Note, I'm not saying that there are not racist Republicans, that would be stupid. But I also do not think its near as bad as the DNC likes to make it out to be.

    People like to point out that there aren't that many black people voted into office on the Republican side but I find such statements to be dishonest in that they're not looking at obvious things. Like the fact that 90%+ of blacks always vote Democrat. That doesn't leave a lot of black people on the Republican side, much less qualified enough to hold office. Though I am seeing some political conservative black activists that, if they put their energy into it the right way, would get voted in.
    Why aren't there enough white people to vote for black republicans? I have no idea what your comment about being "qualified" even means.

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