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The Young Black Conservatives of Trump’s America

Kal'Stang said:
That's the wrong question to ask. The right question to ask is why aren't there enough black people running on the Republican ticket to get voted for? As already noted, 90%+ of voting blacks vote Democrat. That doesn't leave a lot of black people to run as a Republican. Even less that are qualified to hold office.

There are roughly 47 million blacks in the US. More often than not the average amount of blacks that consistently vote on the Republican ticket is around 5%. That means roughly only 2.3 million blacks vote for Republicans consistently.

Total population of the US is over 300 million.

Amount of people in federal office is less than 600. (435+100=535)

Barely half of voting aged people voted in 2016. Midterm elections are normally lower on voter turnout. The US ranks 26 out of 32 OECD nations on voter turnout. U.S. trails most developed countries in voter turnout

The probability of a qualified black person running on the Republican ticket and winning when the vast majority are Democrats and voter turn out is so low is..well... extremely low. Especially when you consider that a lot of blacks that are Democrat voters turn on black conservatives in very nasty ways, as evidenced in the video in the OP. Not because of racism as is often claimed, but because a lack of qualified members running.



What do you think "qualified" means? It means those that have the skills, and matching ideology to match what individual Republicans want.

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Sorry. Still doesn't answer my question. You people are supposedly so "color blind" yet you can't manage to elect more than 2 black republicans at a time. Your party also doesn't do a very good electing women. Is that because all the women are democrats?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Black conservatives and those blacks that are becoming disillusioned with the DNC. I measure it by listening and seeing black conservatives stepping out into the public sphere more and more often.
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So anecdotes. Ok.
 
Kal'Stang said:
As I've already pointed out in this thread, a few times, she's in about 10 minutes of the video tops. Less than 5 minutes of an interview with her. The rest of the video focus's on other black conservatives.

People should also note that this video was done by Vice...not a conservative outlet by ANY means and who has criticized Ms. Owens multiple times.
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Yes, I do understand that, Kal...all of it.
The rest of the video had me scratching my head as well. Trump isn't conservative either, and that's the crux of the problem.

I applaud black conservatives the same way I applaud "CONSERVATIVES" because in the end, calling it "black conservatism" is like talking about "white liberalism" and "black liberalism" and by the way, if Democrats in the Democratic Party are obsessed WITH "white liberalism" and "black liberalism" as if they are two separate things, then that is a bad mistake for them to make.

A large portion of the black community has always been conservative, I think it is important to be honest about that.
At this moment in time, Candace Owens might or might not BE the LEADER of the black conservatives but she IS INDEED most DEFINITELY
Donald Trump's "LEADER of the Trump black conservatives".

It is also important to be honest about that, too.
And that represents something very significant. It represents the Trump DIVIDE AND CONQUER mentality.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I thought this video was well worth the 30 minutes to watch. You don't see many in the media make any attempt at considering black conservatives view points. More often than not you'll see a lot of the media condemn and make fun of them whenever they're brought up. And although the reporter in this did give his own views he also didn't let it interfere with what the story was about. Something you don't see too often anymore.

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Well, they're obviously all "Uncle Toms" , "Aunt Jemimas" and "Oreos"...despite being some of the BEST and BRIGHTEST young minds in the country....
 
Kal'Stang said:
I thought this video was well worth the 30 minutes to watch. You don't see many in the media make any attempt at considering black conservatives view points. More often than not you'll see a lot of the media condemn and make fun of them whenever they're brought up. And although the reporter in this did give his own views he also didn't let it interfere with what the story was about. Something you don't see too often anymore.

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You can fool some of the people some of the time.....
 
PeteEU said:
What chains?

Face it, Donald Trump is an utter failure. His big tax cut is failing big time. Banks and big business have not invested anything as many studies have shown. The money that was suppose to flood into the US.. was barely a trickle.

What I see, is American Conservatives.. black or white or yellow or green... live in a fantasy universe like most black conservatives.

Can you name any "chains on the economy" that have been removed and can be proven to have benefited the economy?
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What the Trump crowd can't accept is that one: "The greatest improvement in our economy in the history of the country" was just a little bubble and began in Obama's first time.

Now, they can't accept that the "SHUT DOWN' Trump is so "proud of" has hit the economic breaks and so the rate of improvement has fallen off dramatically

Americans don't realize that ****ting in your friend's beds does not make for good partnering. Sale of American goods in Canada have fallen over 20 % since Trump imposed punishing tariffs with America's largest trading partner. That was a brilliant stroke of stupidity done for ratings.
 
It is possible that Shutdown 2.0, if allowed to continue for any appreciable length of time, could very well set off a large recession.
The shutdown did not just affect 800 thousand federal workers.

That ignores the MILLIONS of people whose livelihoods intertwine around the original 800K, plus it ignores the millions of contractors who aren't federal employees but are dependent upon the federal government for their jobs anyway.

The first shutdown was like visiting thousands of tornadoes on thousands of communities all at the same time, over and over again.
 
smallvoice said:
I just schooled you. You are welcome.
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Yes, I most certainly feel schooled. In fact, that might have been the most devastating ass whooping I have ever received. Again, do you give lessons? I feel like I could own way harder on this forum with your tutelage.
 
OlNate said:
Yes, I most certainly feel schooled. In fact, that might have been the most devastating ass whooping I have ever received. Again, do you give lessons? I feel like I could own way harder on this forum with your tutelage.
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No lessons, you are much too "progressive" for my skill level. Enjoy what you got.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I would like to ask all of you respectfully to not make this thread about Trump specifically. The thread was made to highlight black conservatism, not talk about Trump of which there are hundreds of other threads about. So please, lets keep the focus on black conservatism.
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Any other time it would be easy to make it "not about Trump".
Tell me how it is possible today when it is acknowledged, and MOST OF ALL BY Republicans, that Trump IS the Republican Party now.
Sorry, your wish is impossible.

Maybe in a couple of years after he's gone.
 
Acadia said:
And yet people do. Not her on DP necessarily, but I've seen anti-Trumpers insist that #walkaway black people are Russian bots. All of them. Even the YouTube videos, of which there are many.
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Walkaway is another thing entirely, no one used that term in the video. Not that I heard anyway.
 
Kal'Stang said:
You may not like her, but she is quite influential and there are those that ARE taking her seriously, including black people.
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Whoa wait a sec, which is it, "small part of the video and not discussed anywhere else" or "quite influential"?
Can't be both and WE (you and I) both know she IS the face of the Trump Black Wing.

It doesn't matter if she's only on ten minutes, she is who a lot of these folks are listening to when they're not listening to Trump.
She IS what Trump hoped Omarosa was GOING to be, only he now realizes that it was better to outsource instead of hire from the Apprentice cast.
 
Mycroft said:
I watched the video. I saw something in it that is very common to see here on these forums, and I don't think it has anything to do with attitudes of black people.

It was during that little get together between the two conservative women and the group of people who don't like Trump.

1. The two conservative women seemed to be concerned with "what Trump is doing" and they support what he is doing.

2. The others, especially that fellow with all the hair, seemed to be concerned more with "what Trump is saying" and they dislike Trump for that.

This is right in line with most of the people here on DP. You have those who are obsessed with what Trump is saying (or with what the media tells them he's saying) and those who are concerned with what Trump is actually doing and how it affects our country, our economy and people's lives.
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Actually what Trump is doing is worse that what he says.....

Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks - The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
 
Skeptic Bob said:
You know, this idea that it doesn’t matter what a President says is new. Trump supporters started spreading that nonsense when they realized it was way too much work defending every ridiculous thing Trump says. And I am sorry it is inconvenient, but we aren’t buying that line. Yeah, what a President does matters more, but what a President says matters a lot too.

I’ll buy that argument when it comes to congress members and judges. Yeah, all that matters with them in regards to my life is how they vote or how they rule. But the President is the leader of our country. He represents us on the global stage. He speaks for us as a nation. So yes, what the President says ABSOLUTELY matters. I have always believed that and I am not going to cut this particular President slack on that just because he doesn’t how to think before he speaks.
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Actually, I think think it IS new, but it's new because we are seeing a President who actually does (or tries damned hard) to do what he told everyone he wanted to do. Before, all a President had to do was talk about what he wanted to do. Didn't matter if he did nothing.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I thought this video was well worth the 30 minutes to watch. You don't see many in the media make any attempt at considering black conservatives view points. More often than not you'll see a lot of the media condemn and make fun of them whenever they're brought up. And although the reporter in this did give his own views he also didn't let it interfere with what the story was about. Something you don't see too often anymore.

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Well let's give them all a hand :applaud
 
Kal'Stang said:
I would like to ask all of you respectfully to not make this thread about Trump specifically. The thread was made to highlight black conservatism, not talk about Trump of which there are hundreds of other threads about. So please, lets keep the focus on black conservatism.
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Job gains for minorities and getting off food stamps is all because of Trump. There are no racial differences in Conservatives views, IMO.
 
RAMOSS said:
No, he is fueling the economy by getting us much deeper into debt.
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If by letting people keep more of their own money is getting us farther in debt. Too bad, so sad.

Those are the folks who drive this economy.
 
Mycroft said:
Actually, I think think it IS new, but it's new because we are seeing a President who actually does (or tries damned hard) to do what he told everyone he wanted to do. Before, all a President had to do was talk about what he wanted to do. Didn't matter if he did nothing.
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Actions speck louder than words....
 
WCH said:
If by letting people keep more of their own money is getting us farther in debt. Too bad, so sad.

Those are the folks who drive this economy.
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Yes, it is sad, because, it's going at a rate that it is causing a 'boom/bust' type of economy. That means, when the stuff hits the fan, its going to be miserable for the folks that think they are getting to 'keep their own money', since they are the ones that will suffer the most.
 
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