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Democrats are the ones complaining about Obamacare

zimmer said:
ObamaCare was no solution.

It was a power grab, a massive failure which seriously increased costs.

It was based on a mountain of lies.

It was passed using parliamentary tricks, after the Leftist state if MA sent a Republican to the Senate to replace The Liar of the Senate... Dead Kennedy.

No... you weren’t able to keep your Doctor.

No... you did not save $2500.

Yes... your costs massively increased.

No... it did not solve the problem you claim it did. It failed on every front... and did so at a record pace.
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Nope, it was debated on C-SPAN for over a year and Obama even let a republican add an amendment. Again, the republicans have lied to you and you haven't been able to figure it out yet. The longer it takes you the more we get to laugh at you! LMAO!
 
yankintx said:
I thought they already were. They must get paid by the post, no one im their right mind can be that much in love with Trump unless a check is being cut.
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The RNC pays well... and it’s fun educating the ignorant.

The bonus is, I can do it from all over the globe.
 
zimmer said:
ObamaCare was no solution.

It was a power grab, a massive failure which seriously increased costs.

It was based on a mountain of lies.

It was passed using parliamentary tricks, after the Leftist state if MA sent a Republican to the Senate to replace The Liar of the Senate... Dead Kennedy.

No... you weren’t able to keep your Doctor.

No... you did not save $2500.

Yes... your costs massively increased.

No... it did not solve the problem you claim it did. It failed on every front... and did so at a record pace.
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So then, what is your solution?

After all, a Health Care solution is something that our nation has been working to find for the last 50 years and until Obamacare none had been found. We are supposed to be the best nation in the world but as far as Health Care for our people, we are at the bottom of the list of countries that offer Health Care to their population.

You are very good at complaining but I see no solutions coming out of your mouth. Critics are a dime per dozen but constructive ideas are only given by people that have intelligence and care.

Where do you fit?
 
srexob715 said:
Nope, it was debated on C-SPAN for over a year and Obama even let a republican add an amendment. Again, the republicans have lied to you and you haven't been able to figure it out yet. The longer it takes you the more we get to laugh at you! LMAO!
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Obama claimed it would be televised. It wasn’t.

You seem to be ignorant about how it was passed. Your problem.

No Republican votes. No Republican input.

Scott Brown elected to replace Dead Kennedy. That killed the Democrats Super Majority. It meant they had to resort to parliamentary tricks to pass the piece of **** called ObamaCare.
 
Luckyone said:
So then, what is your solution?

After all, a Health Care solution is something that our nation has been working to find for the last 50 years and until Obamacare none had been found. We are supposed to be the best nation in the world but as far as Health Care for our people, we are at the bottom of the list of countries that offer Health Care to their population.

You are very good at complaining but I see no solutions coming out of your mouth. Critics are a dime per dozen but constructive ideas are only given by people that have intelligence and care.

Where do you fit?
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ObamaCare isn’t a solution, it’s a piece of ****.

It deserves to die.

Embrace the free market. The free market always drives down costs while improving service.
 
zimmer said:
ObamaCare isn’t a solution, it’s a piece of ****.

It deserves to die.

Embrace the free market. The free market always drives down costs while improving service.
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Free market is the solution? Hahahaha

The free market only cares about profits and there are no profits to be made with people that have pre-existing conditions.

It is said that 1 out of every 2 people have pre-existing conditions and those are not being covered by the free market. So how are you going to solve that at a cost that is affordable?

Your solution is no solution to half of the population. Is that the best you can come up with? If so, it is pitiful!
 
Luckyone said:
You certainly are onto something with your post. The same kind of Capitals and Bolded statements are seen in both nicks. What lengths some people will go to in order to be heard! Grok was no longer being paid attention to, so why not come up with a different nick? Unfortunately for him, hate sounds the same no matter the nick. Geez, how someone can have so much hate in him is beyond my ability to understand.
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Hate and ignorance.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Yep, Trumpters and Republicans are a gullible bunch. It's almost like they enjoy being ignorant and being conned and lied to.
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The thing they absolutely love to do is cut off their noses to spite the entire country's faces. They love it. Can't get enough of it.
 
zimmer said:
Obama claimed it would be televised. It wasn’t.
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Of course it was, you can still watch it. The five televised committee markups, the House floor debate. Here's the tape of just the Senate floor debate before the first vote, which was on TV for five straight weeks.

November 20, 2009: The Senate began debate on comprehensive health care reform legislation.
November 21, 2009: The Senate continued a second day of debate on health care reform legislation. 
November 30, 2009: The Senate debated health care reform. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid warned Senators to expect daily votes on the bill, plus evening and weekend sessions. 
December 1, 2009: The Senate continued a second day of debate on H.R. 3590, the $848B plan to expand health insurance coverage. 
December 2, 2009: The Senators are taking up H.R. 3590, the $848B plan to expand health insurance coverage.
December 3, 2009: Senate debate continues on H.R. 3590, the $848B plan to expand health insurance coverage. 
December 4, 2009: The Senate proceeded with debate on amendments to H.R. 3590, the health care bill. Yesterday, the Senate passed an amendment providing preventive health services for women and another guaranteeing Medicare benefits. Debate on the bill continued over the weekend. 
December 5, 2009: Senate proceeded with debate on amendments to health care legislation. 
December 6, 2009: The Senate reconvened in a special weekend session. Members continued debate on amendments...
December 7, 2009: The U.S. Senate began the second week and eighth day of health care legislation. 
December 8, 2009: Day 9 of the Senate health care reform debate. 
December 9, 2009: On day 10 of debate on health care reform... 
December 10, 2009: Health care debate continues.
December 12, 2009: The Senate convened... continued with health care reform legislation.
December 13, 2009: In a rare Sunday session the Senate took a final vote on the $447 billion FY 2010 omnibus spending bill. After the vote, members continued to debate health care legislation. 
December 14, 2009: The Senate resumed consideration of health care legislation. 
December 15, 2009: Senators planned to finish debate on several amendments and motions dealing with buying prescription from other countries and middle class taxes. 
December 16, 2009: The Senate held its 15th day of health care debate.
December 17, 2009: Throughout the day, Senators may continue to speak on health care legislation and the Senate is expected to return to the debate after voting on the defense bill. 
December 19, 2009: The Senate...resumed debate on health care legislation. This is the 17th day of health care debate.
December 21, 2009: The Senate continued debate on health care legislation.
December 22, 2009: The Senate approved Majority Leader Reid’s Managers Amendment with a vote of 60-39.
December 23, 2009: The Senate is now holding a series of votes, including adoption of the Majority Leader’s substitute amendment and a vote to limit debate on the bill. 
December 24, 2009: The Senate passed the $871 billion health care bill, H.R. 3590, by a vote of 60 to 39.
 
apdst said:
What's an accurate number?
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Medicare provides healthcare to millions of seniors for far less overhead than any private insurance carrier. In other words, they provide more healthcare for less money than the private sector. That's what happens when you remove the profit incentive.



And, you can read the non-partisan CBO's own assessment right here. In this report, they project that healthcare premium costs will rise faster in the private sector than in the public sector. But you'll have to ignore it because they use actual facts and historical data.
 
A wall, a fence, a barrier. no one seems to agree.

I offer a real compromise. This is so brilliant, I can't believe I didn't think of this before.

Instead of a wall, or a fence, what we really need at the southern border is a great big beautiful ....

PYRACANTHA PRIVACY HEDGE!

Prettier than any wall or fence, it is easily maintained by guys named Raul or Juan. It offers colorful foliage year round. And you can grow it pretty much as high as you want. And believe me, you do not want to try to climb over or through it!

 
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