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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    Indeed, Northam has done a terrible job responding to the racist revelations, and for reasons Iíve already posted, he needs to resign.

    Regarding the abortion interview, Iíve watched it several times and nowhere in Northamís remarks is there even the suggestion of infanticide.

    As for Fairfax, he is no where near being out of the woods,
    Virginia delegate plans to introduce articles of impeachment unless Fairfax resigns
    Virginia delegate plans to introduce articles of impeachment unless Fairfax resigns | TheHill
    Really? What would his little fireside chat with mom be about then? Failed abortion. Baby is born alive. What's to discuss?

    And nope, Dems are already backing off impeachment.

    Impeachment Push for Virginia Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax Slows Down - WSJ

    The Virginia lawmaker who had vowed to launch impeachment proceedings Monday against Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax over two allegations of sexual assault said he isnít ready to start that process in the House of Delegates.

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Hysterically, the Virginia politician who proudly announced that he would file to begin an impeachment process on Fairfax has just as quickly backed off of that this morning.

    You just can't make this stuff up. Were I of a mind to be entertained, I could not make the popcorn fast enough for this mess.

    It does seem to be settling into a desperate hope that Northam finds a few active brain cells while they investigate Fairfax with Virginia AG Herring hustling to try to build on what for him was a decent start on a road back....the only one of the three that has even managed that much to date.

    Beyond that, if I were in Virginia politics I would feverishly be vetting myself using some sort of out of state staff that can tell you where and when you were an idiot in your past. Until then, a goodly number will probably be trying to keep their heads below the grass line.

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Wow, aren't you supposed to think in non-binary terms?
    I just like addressing people correctly and you, due to fear of being found out or for whatever reason you insist on concealing. It's not a deal-breaker for me, just makes it more challenging to communicate with you - but I think you enjoy that - whatever.

    But why don't we get back on the subject of the thread or would you rather continue to be a jerk?
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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    I just like addressing people correctly and you, due to fear of being found out or for whatever reason you insist on concealing. It's not a deal-breaker for me, just makes it more challenging to communicate with you - but I think you enjoy that - whatever.

    But why don't we get back on the subject of the thread or would you rather continue to be a jerk?
    Aw, you need me to tell my sex to put me in a box? Now who's the jerk?

    And btw, "buddy" and "babe"...seriously?

    You might want to bone up on your pronouns!

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Aw, you need me to tell my sex to put me in a box? Now who's the jerk?

    And btw, "buddy" and "babe"...seriously?

    You might want to bone up on your pronouns!

    ttfn
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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Really? What would his little fireside chat with mom be about then? Failed abortion. Baby is born alive. What's to discuss?
    Factually and legally, infanticide is the unlawful killing of a baby. Not all what Northam was referring to.

    He said that the infant in the scenario question would be made as comfortable as possible, and resuscitation efforts would be made if the parents wished, and afterwards the doctor and parents could discuss options. As infanticide is illegal, obviously it would not be an option for discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    And nope, Dems are already backing off impeachment.

    Impeachment Push for Virginia Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax Slows Down - WSJ

    The Virginia lawmaker who had vowed to launch impeachment proceedings Monday against Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax over two allegations of sexual assault said he isn’t ready to start that process in the House of Delegates.
    Apparently I missed the latest news on Fairfax. My mistake. He’s still the most likely to be first out of his job IMO.

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    Factually and legally, infanticide is the unlawful killing of a baby. Not all what Northam was referring to.

    He said that the infant in the scenario question would be made as comfortable as possible, and resuscitation efforts would be made if the parents wished, and afterwards the doctor and parents could discuss options. As infanticide is illegal, obviously it would not be an option for discussion.


    Apparently I missed the latest news on Fairfax. My mistake. He’s still the most likely to be first out of his job IMO.
    That just was this morning.

    Regarding infanticide, I'm still not convinced. When Northam- a pediatric neurologist for God's sake- intentionally sidestepped clarifying his comments to pivot to Planned Parentood talking points, I can't know what he meant.
    In fact, not clarifying is telling. The $2 million Northam's received from PP notwithstanding.

    eta: I was right with you after Northam's comments during the radio interview. Totally on board. Until his follow-up statements. He in no way ruled out infanticide and yes, that is exactly what the public needed to hear him say. He still hasn't cleared the air.

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    Until his follow-up statements. He in no way ruled out infanticide and yes, that is exactly what the public needed to hear him say. He still hasn't cleared the air.
    What statement/s are you referring to? Why is it necessary for Northam to specifically say he rules out infanticide? Why isn’t that (reasonably and rationally) understood without need for clarification?

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    What statement/s are you referring to? Why is it necessary for Northam to specifically say he rules out infanticide? Why isnít that (reasonably and rationally) understood without need for clarification?
    I think it was important because that claim was what went viral. Northam essentially poured gasoline on Kathy Tran's bonfire. He didn't have the leadership skills to address the bill directly, so he pivoted to a natural birth of a severely malformed baby. OK. He talks about resuscitation. OK. Then he said doctor and mom would have a "discussion". About what?

    As if that hot mess of an interview wasn't bad enough, when asked to address what he said, Northam pivoted to PP talking points.

    I think Northam and any politician trying to pass these abortion bills need to stop with the stupid and condescending euphemisms and talk frankly. Enough of this b.s. about "women's reproductive health".

    Tran didn't seem to be able to even answer questions about medical ramifications and Northam might have even been ignorant about what was in the bill. Let me tell you something- if we are supposed to somehow comprehend killing a baby in the 3rd trimester, there have to be painstaking rules, regulations and criteria, not this sidestepping about not being able to tell a mother what to do. That's not good enough when it comes to ending human life.

    Anyway, Northam and the media seem quite happy to shove the abortion issue to the side and focus on some blackface photo from last century. Either way, Northam has shown himself to be all out saving his Governorship. The "God complex" this doctor has shown in having the temerity to assume he can "save" us is gobsmacking.

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    Re: Northam: "I'm not going anywhere". Calls slaves, "indentured servants"

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    I think it was important because that claim was what went viral. Northam essentially poured gasoline on Kathy Tran's bonfire. He didn't have the leadership skills to address the bill directly, so he pivoted to a natural birth of a severely malformed baby. OK. He talks about resuscitation. OK. Then he said doctor and mom would have a "discussion". About what?

    As if that hot mess of an interview wasn't bad enough, when asked to address what he said, Northam pivoted to PP talking points.

    I think Northam and any politician trying to pass these abortion bills need to stop with the stupid and condescending euphemisms and talk frankly. Enough of this b.s. about "women's reproductive health".

    Tran didn't seem to be able to even answer questions about medical ramifications and Northam might have even been ignorant about what was in the bill. Let me tell you something- if we are supposed to somehow comprehend killing a baby in the 3rd trimester, there have to be painstaking rules, regulations and criteria, not this sidestepping about not being able to tell a mother what to do. That's not good enough when it comes to ending human life.

    Anyway, Northam and the media seem quite happy to shove the abortion issue to the side and focus on some blackface photo from last century. Either way, Northam has shown himself to be all out saving his Governorship. The "God complex" this doctor has shown in having the temerity to assume he can "save" us is gobsmacking.
    I’m beginning to think we listened to completely different interviews.

    In the one I watched, Northam made no mention whatsoever of anything remotely close to infanticide. He said that the doctor and parents would discuss options. As he was clearly talking about an infant with a life threatening condition, I logically assumed he meant they discuss possible treatments or possibly palliative care.

    Maybe his comments would have been better received by many if he hadn’t shifted from earnest, yet compassionate, sounding politician to clinically speaking physician. I actually appreciated the directness of his comments.

    Same as I appreciate using the correct terminology “terminating a pregnancy” or “aborting a fetus” over the more inflammatory, and incorrect “killing a baby”.

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