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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    There is no difference other than the name attached to it. Central planning is central planning and the left has become enamored of it to a great degree. This is a discussion of the economics of it. The totalitarianism is a necessary adjunct to force people to comply, whether the plans are failing or not.
    No difference other than the fact that they are different? This is why we ended up with Trump isn't it. Just a complete lack of reasoning/awareness?

    We're already forced to comply with government, that's what the **** a government is. We're forced to pay taxes. We're forced to get certain licenses to do certain things.
    Good lord, crazy bubble.

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

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    Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

    Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production[1] with an emphasis on self-management and democratic management of economic institutions within a market or some form of decentralized planned socialist economy.[2]

    Like I said. No clue from you.
    That's gobbledy-gook nonsense. "social ownership of the means of production" immediately means a planned economy and it will fail. "Decentralized, planned socialist economy"? How is something both decentralized yet planned by the government? Call it what you will but it's the same old thing with a new name and it will make us all poorer.

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    No difference other than the fact that they are different? This is why we ended up with Trump isn't it. Just a complete lack of reasoning/awareness?

    We're already forced to comply with government, that's what the **** a government is. We're forced to pay taxes. We're forced to get certain licenses to do certain things.
    Good lord, crazy bubble.
    Yes, we have to comply with government. Nobody is suggesting otherwise. What we don't need is MORE of it, especially not to where they are running the damn economy. This is nuts.

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Because the point of it escapes you, doesn't make it a bad article. The point is that central planning will fail, period. Yet, the left wants as much central planning as possible.
    You guys and your fake news, fake information, fake debating, fake absolutist bull****. When will it end?

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    You guys and your fake news, fake information, fake debating, fake absolutist bull****. When will it end?
    That's the default response to be expected when you can't make any more valid arguments or engage in rational discussion.

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Yes, we have to comply with government. Nobody is suggesting otherwise. What we don't need is MORE of it, especially not to where they are running the damn economy. This is nuts.
    How do you know we don't need more of it? Or less of it? We needed more of it years back, we've needed more as our economy and knowledge has grown, what magical fairy whispered into your ear this absolutist "we don't need MORE!" nonsense to you? Hannity? Rush? You do know they are rich celebrities as a result of telling you bull**** right?

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    That's the default response to be expected when you can't make any more valid arguments or engage in rational discussion.
    You didnt' respond to me in your reply, you simply claimed I "didn't understand". Try harder veritas1, this is hilarious.

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    That's gobbledy-gook nonsense. "social ownership of the means of production" immediately means a planned economy and it will fail. "Decentralized, planned socialist economy"? How is something both decentralized yet planned by the government? Call it what you will but it's the same old thing with a new name and it will make us all poorer.
    Repeating your same lies over and over again does not make then true. You have no clue what the hell you're talking about, you certainly don't even know what democratic socialism is despite a definition being clearly provided for you so that you could read it. Maybe reading comprehension is where you struggle the most?
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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    This is an aged argument, and as the term "socialism" gets thrown around we will see more and more articles talking about where socialism failed.

    The economic debate though already knows that strict socialism will eventually fail, just as strict capitalism will eventually fail. What ends up happening in terms of sociology and economics is looking to a blend of market and planned forces.

    Our type of governance and our type of economic model suggest balances.

    Even when we have those arguing for a move towards one end of the scale or the other, odds are we will not see near the shift being pushed for.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: Why Socialism Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    You didnt' respond to me in your reply, you simply claimed I "didn't understand". Try harder veritas1, this is hilarious.
    Veritas does not understand because he does not want to understand. If he did, it'd undermine his entire argument.
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