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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    not really. i don't mind paying taxes for the most part, as i enjoy being a member of a stable first world society, and that's the bill. my point is that significantly reduced refunds might cost the Trumpist party some votes. as predictions go, this one isn't very controversial.



    i'm not a "taker," but thanks for the flailing insult.
    Thank you for not minding too much. But, you blamed Trumpist's for you lower return.

    Suck it up and aim higher......................or just keeping whining like most takers.

    Like I said.......... wanna swap returns with this 10th grade drop out?

    I can guarantee that you will stop your whining.
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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    Thank you for not minding too much. But, you blamed Trumpist's for you lower return.
    i pointed out that if refunds go down significantly, the Trumpist party might take a hit. as for my own refund, i have no idea what it will be this year.

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    Suck it up and aim higher......................or just keeping whining like most takers.
    i have worked in a highly skilled field for almost two decades. i'm not a taker. perhaps you should flail in a different direction.

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    Like I said.......... wanna swap returns with this 10th grade drop out?
    i don't really care about your returns other than to help you figure out a way to pay less by dropping into another socioeconomic bracket. the offer still stands.

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    I can guarantee that you will stop your whining.
    i'm not whining, and i've explained myself quite well. given this, i will be cutting out points that have already been addressed from future quote farms. this will save us both time. time is money, so perhaps you can use some of it to offset the tax returns that seem to bother you so much.

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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I am a defender of Trump and I have no problem saying that. Do I approve of all of his antics? Hell no. Do I approve of every policy he has put forward? Yes. Do I think he colluded with Russia? No. Do I think that the liberal obsession with all thing Russia is just a new form of Trutherism? Absolutely.
    I guess I just wonder how you come up with the idea that Trump and his cronies had nothing to do with Russia. They had over 100 meetings that they lied about and already we have had what, over 35 indictments and over 7 guilty pleas or convictions, many for lying to congress about their meetings with the Russians. As of yet we have not heard anything out of Mueller's team, which is a good thing as leaks in an investigation are not a good. Do you really think that Trump and his team had nothing to so with the Russian's and that all of this is just an obsession. I think if Mueller's team comes out with the finding that Trump's team played a role with the Russian interference in our election and gave you evidence, you would never believe.

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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I hate to break this to you but if you were poor and your parents kept getting refunds then that was either due to "refundable credits" which really aren't refunds or it was due to them having more tax withheld from their check than they needed to which wasn't a function of the tax law but, rather, a problem of them CHOOSING to take less money with each check in favor of a larger refund at the end of the year. If the reason for their refund was the former then there's really nothing else they could have done to fix that problem. If their refund was due to the latter reason then they were basically choosing not to feed you guys and not to pay rent or utilities because they wanted a bigger refund in April.
    Of course it makes more financial sense to keep your withholdings low. But poor people keep their withholdings high because they don't have savings to pay thousands at the end of the year. The refund acts like a kind of yearly savings. When you're poor you end up spending everything you get.

    My point is just that poor Trump supporters are going to be really pissed when that refund check shows up smaller than expected. Now all Dems have to do is whisper in their ear, "The tax cuts went to the elite. Trump is an elite. He fooled you."

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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Of course it makes more financial sense to keep your withholdings low. But poor people keep their withholdings high because they don't have savings to pay thousands at the end of the year. The refund acts like a kind of yearly savings. When you're poor you end up spending everything you get.

    My point is just that poor Trump supporters are going to be really pissed when that refund check shows up smaller than expected. Now all Dems have to do is whisper in their ear, "The tax cuts went to the elite. Trump is an elite. He fooled you."
    So, essentially, all the Democrats need to do is lie to the people and they'll get the results they want! That's really a brilliant plan and, probably, far more truthful than you imagine.

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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So, essentially, all the Democrats need to do is lie to the people and they'll get the results they want! That's really a brilliant plan and, probably, far more truthful than you imagine.
    That would be tearing a page straight out of Trump's playbook. Remember, El Paso crime turnaround after the wall was built? (lie) Remember, our economy is booming? (lie)

    But the fact that the tax cuts were far more beneficial to the wealthy is no lie.

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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Of course it makes more financial sense to keep your withholdings low. But poor people keep their withholdings high because they don't have savings to pay thousands at the end of the year. The refund acts like a kind of yearly savings. When you're poor you end up spending everything you get.

    My point is just that poor Trump supporters are going to be really pissed when that refund check shows up smaller than expected. Now all Dems have to do is whisper in their ear, "The tax cuts went to the elite. Trump is an elite. He fooled you."
    Poor people don't pay Federal income taxes.
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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i pointed out that if refunds go down significantly, the Trumpist party might take a hit. as for my own refund, i have no idea what it will be this year.



    i have worked in a highly skilled field for almost two decades. i'm not a taker. perhaps you should flail in a different direction.



    i don't really care about your returns other than to help you figure out a way to pay less by dropping into another socioeconomic bracket. the offer still stands.



    i'm not whining, and i've explained myself quite well. given this, i will be cutting out points that have already been addressed from future quote farms. this will save us both time. time is money, so perhaps you can use some of it to offset the tax returns that seem to bother you so much.
    Sounds like you're one of the folks who oughta be paying more, anyway.
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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like you're one of the folks who oughta be paying more, anyway.
    i pay my taxes. thanks for sharing your opinion.

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    Re: Trump Tax Cuts Are (Probably) About to Become a Political Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    even though it's probably not a great investment, most people in my socioeconomic class and lower sort of count on the refunds as a windfall to be used to catch up on bills. if the refund drops significantly, people are going to be pissed off, so it might not be great PR for the Trumpist party. his core base will remain loyal, however.
    That (bolded above) is quite an assertion. Granting an interest free loan to the IRS (US Treasuary?) is a rather (economically) stupid thing to do. If nothing else, having a small savings account at least gets you free checking and the ability to avoid falling behind on bills thus avoiding late fees/penalties.
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