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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    The most important job Democrats have -- in the view of this ex-Republican -- is to offer up someone who independents and NeverTrumpers can vote for instead of Trump.

    Thus far, you are ****ing this up.

    Example: the latest cluster **** is the "New Green Deal". Some of the early D contenders have "signed on". Kamala. Cory.

    So they are out for this NeverTrumper. Kamala took herself out for me when she said she would eliminate all private health insurance, including that provided by employers.

    As much as I've hated Nancy P. in the past, she gained some respect for saying the "New Green Deal" was a "dream deal". IOW, not realistic. She is at least pragmatic.

    I will never vote for Trump. I would never normally vote for a Democrat either. But I considered it it as opposition to Trump.

    Be careful of letting this pendulum swing too far. You are dangerously close to snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
    I think what the Democrats are having is a relatively healthy discussion in the public view that will only amplify during the debates. Pelosi and AOC don't actually hate each other. Its similar to what the GOP went through in 2016 but not quite as bad.

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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrump View Post
    I think what the Democrats are having is a relatively healthy discussion in the public view that will only amplify during the debates. Pelosi and AOC don't actually hate each other. Its similar to what the GOP went through in 2016 but not quite as bad.
    I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.

    I don't discount that AOC's ideas are gaining traction among some, but to be honest, I see the AOC crowd as being as strong as the Trump crowd.

    A plurality but no where near a majority.

    Perhaps that is enough. It was at least once.

    I hope not. I've had enough time being led around by the ideas of a plurality of people.

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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Don't tell me, tell the early candidates.
    Its your beef not mine. At this point in the game I am paying little attention to who throws their hat in the ring. The NH primary is still a YEAR. away.
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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Don't tell me, tell the early candidates.
    Seems you already made up your mind, so...
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    Now, for sure, the guy is in trouble for possessing firearms and I'm not defending him in any way for firearms violations. But there is no indication this has anything to do with the citizen arrest of illegal aliens in New Mexico.

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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    To Airyaman and everyone else freaking the **** out over the Green New Deal, which I guarantee you Airyaman HAS NOT READ, only heard about:

    Howzabout you inform yourselves by actually reading it.
    Then, after you have, ask yourself what you think the odds are that 100% of it will ever pass.
    Then, after you've done that, ask yourself if there is ANYTHING in there (again, predicated on the notion that you actually do READ IT) that makes sense to you.
    Then finally, ask yourself if THOSE items have a chance at passage, and if so, would you be okay with any of them.

    If the answer to the final question is NO, then you clearly were never going to vote for a Democrat anyway.
    So why should Democrats come up with someone who is just "a better Trump" anyway?

    No thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Now, for sure, the guy is in trouble for possessing firearms and I'm not defending him in any way for firearms violations. But there is no indication this has anything to do with the citizen arrest of illegal aliens in New Mexico.

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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    The most important job Democrats have -- in the view of this ex-Republican -- is to offer up someone who independents and NeverTrumpers can vote for instead of Trump.

    Thus far, you are ****ing this up.

    Example: the latest cluster **** is the "New Green Deal". Some of the early D contenders have "signed on". Kamala. Cory.

    So they are out for this NeverTrumper. Kamala took herself out for me when she said she would eliminate all private health insurance, including that provided by employers.

    As much as I've hated Nancy P. in the past, she gained some respect for saying the "New Green Deal" was a "dream deal". IOW, not realistic. She is at least pragmatic.

    I will never vote for Trump. I would never normally vote for a Democrat either. But I considered it it as opposition to Trump.

    Be careful of letting this pendulum swing too far. You are dangerously close to snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
    Yeah.. I have to say Kamala signing on with the green deal, was pretty surprising for me to see.
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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    The most important job Democrats have -- in the view of this ex-Republican -- is to offer up someone who independents and NeverTrumpers can vote for instead of Trump.

    Thus far, you are ****ing this up.

    Example: the latest cluster **** is the "New Green Deal". Some of the early D contenders have "signed on". Kamala. Cory.

    So they are out for this NeverTrumper. Kamala took herself out for me when she said she would eliminate all private health insurance, including that provided by employers.

    As much as I've hated Nancy P. in the past, she gained some respect for saying the "New Green Deal" was a "dream deal". IOW, not realistic. She is at least pragmatic.

    I will never vote for Trump. I would never normally vote for a Democrat either. But I considered it it as opposition to Trump.

    Be careful of letting this pendulum swing too far. You are dangerously close to snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.


    It's a little early to go for the end game.

    Your suggestion is one obviously from a right wing American and not a liberal, so we will start there.

    The right is going to do EVERYTHING it can to get the Democrats to commit early, just as you have posted. Why? So Trump can have free reign at them for two full years.

    Nope. That's for a dope.

    Right now President Liar has a wide field of enemies from within and without and some waiting in the wings for him to show the lightest weakness so to bring him down. These are Republicans we are talking about. And time is on their side. The longer Trump resists congress, the more likely he will lose it again and say something really, really stupid like "I will be proud to shut down the government."

    So, waiting is the better option while the sharks circle the meat, maybe the Republicans will do their work for them...it's not like they haven't eaten their young before.

    Across the aisle, he has one woman. Not a nice, house wifey Republican woman, but a seasoned pro at the inner workings of government who is dismantling Trump's entire charade piece by ****ing piece. He's losing to her as he comes across as the angry white guy she poses as a responsible mother, admonishing a child. They would be fools to relent now and lay off. Look, the Republicans harassed that political whore Hilary for four ****ing years...you can't possibly think Democrats have forgotten that. You can't possibly think they won't even the score.

    It is to the Democrats advantage to maintain course and speed and proceed with authority in its oversight capacity remaining within the confines of the constitution.

    Not only is he in decline now, now we are seeing how much Trump benefited from illegal labor. He saved millions by paying Guatemalans less than a third the going wage rate. Thousands of Guatemalans.

    Oops. So much for his "rapists and thieves" sermon, he employed them for decades!
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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Don't tell me, tell the early candidates.


    Ahem, they are not "candidates".

    Not one of the people now campaigning will become the standard bearer, and they all know it. This called "grooming" in American politics where suddenly nobodies emerge behind dramatic headlines. These people are running to enhance their name recognition, that's all.

    See my previous post for an explanation of why the Democrats would be stupid to follow your advice.

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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Kamala has said she signs on with the New Green Deal. I will not vote for her because of it.

    Cory Booker has said he signs on with the New Green Deal. I will not vote for him because of it.
    In my opinion, that right there eliminates two of the best chances the democratic party had in getting a win in. Kamala more so, than Booker.
    Why do they run?
    Because they have no choice son, such is the way of cowards.
    But even a cornered rat, with no choice, will fight.
    Yes my son and that should tell you more than you need to know about the coward.

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    Re: Democrats, you have one real job...and you are screwing it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    Kamala has said she signs on with the New Green Deal. I will not vote for her because of it.

    Cory Booker has said he signs on with the New Green Deal. I will not vote for him because of it.
    So you are a denier and don't believe we need to transition from fossil fuels the sooner the better?
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