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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    Then why did you quote only the last sentence of my paragraph?

    Scared of the facts?!? ha ha ha
    they do that all the time because they can't address actual arguments with facts.
    you are dealing with leftists that do not care about facts or anything else.

    those get in the way of their agenda and honest discussion is not part of their agenda.

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    Timing.
    Maybe it as shrewd as that. I am not really empathetic to playing victim when he isnt fighting back.

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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    https://intelligence.house.gov/news/...DocumentID=447

    These are the 5 lines of inquiry the HPSCI will be looking into -



    That's a lot of scope! Basically, Schiff has decided that it's completely justified to investigate anything and everything related to Trump and to do so for any reason.

    I'd like to remind people that this "need" to expand the scope of investigation beyond and in parallel to the Mueller investigation comes two years after the most intense investigation of a sitting president was started and two years after than investigation has reported NOTHING related to findings that Trump, his campaign or the Trump organization collaborated with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

    Schiff's "need" to investigate begins and ends with the unsubstantiated, unrealistic, and unreasonable assumption that Trump is somehow or other under the influence of Russia. It's nothing more than an attack on the executive branch by the petulant party running half the legislative branch.

    I hope Schiff pushes through with this. I hope he pulls and exposes tax returns, personal financial information, information from business associates and campaign staff. I hope he hands out subpoenas like Rockefeller handed out dimes.

    I hope that America gets to see first hand what "guilty until proved innocent!!!" means and I hope they get to see which political party promotes and practices that principle.
    Republicans are now reaping what they have sown.

    I cannot say I am unhappy about this
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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    they do that all the time because they can't address actual arguments with facts.
    you are dealing with leftists that do not care about facts or anything else.

    those get in the way of their agenda and honest discussion is not part of their agenda.
    Boogeyman.



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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It would be nice if there was a crime before y'all started this investigation to find one. Since when is winning an election a crime? Well, when, before 2016, was it a crime?

    You've got Russians posting tweets and facebook stuff. You've got Russians hacking into Podesta's stuff. The hacking is a crime the twitter stuff isn't. Neither of those have been remotely tied to Trump.

    Right now Trump is being investigated, primarily, because word on the street is that Russia favored him to win the election over Hillary and that's what happened. Well, Oslo gave Obama a Nobel prize for reaching out to Muslims and promising less nukes. Why wasn't he investigated for being unduly influenced by Norwegians and promoting policies of interest to foreign actors? How do we know that Obama's campaign promises weren't carefully crafted to promote the interests of foreign actors at the expense of American interests and for his own gratification?
    Boy, did you stretch before those mental gymnastics? Wouldn't want you to sprain anything.

    It is interesting that republicans are claiming that democrats, doing EXACTLY what the Russians did in the presidential election, caused Moore to lose. "Hacked" THAT election.

    So it would follow that the Russians cost Hillary the election.

    But y'all deny that outright.

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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    We're well beyond the point of a certain contingent actually believing the things they say to defend Trump and attack "the left". Democracy is fracturing. They're the ones doing it, and so naturally they point the finger at everyone else.
    Actually, your side is propagandizing you and their side is propagandizing them.

    Until we address this we are doomed. Violence is on the horizon.

    We don't even have the same recent history anymore. Conservatives have a completely different version than the rest of the world.
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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    https://intelligence.house.gov/news/...DocumentID=447

    These are the 5 lines of inquiry the HPSCI will be looking into -



    That's a lot of scope! Basically, Schiff has decided that it's completely justified to investigate anything and everything related to Trump and to do so for any reason.

    I'd like to remind people that this "need" to expand the scope of investigation beyond and in parallel to the Mueller investigation comes two years after the most intense investigation of a sitting president was started and two years after than investigation has reported NOTHING related to findings that Trump, his campaign or the Trump organization collaborated with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

    Schiff's "need" to investigate begins and ends with the unsubstantiated, unrealistic, and unreasonable assumption that Trump is somehow or other under the influence of Russia. It's nothing more than an attack on the executive branch by the petulant party running half the legislative branch.

    I hope Schiff pushes through with this. I hope he pulls and exposes tax returns, personal financial information, information from business associates and campaign staff. I hope he hands out subpoenas like Rockefeller handed out dimes.

    I hope that America gets to see first hand what "guilty until proved innocent!!!" means and I hope they get to see which political party promotes and practices that principle.
    This proves that Mueller has zilch and the Democrats already know it.
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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Guilty until proven innocent? Where are the convictions showing Trump is guilty? Please provide those sources.

    Trump isn't guilty yet, but you can't seriously argue he should be immune for even being investigated for crimes because there isn't already a conviction.

    Is that how you want our legal system to work? We can't investigate a criminal until he's convicted and we can't convict until we've investigated? Why do you hate law enforcement and our judicial system so much?

    I thoroughly enjoy watching how squirrelly you Trump cultists are getting over this investigation. You're begging for it to be shut down because you know letting it run its course would be disastrous. Cry harder.
    What are the reasonable grounds for an investigation?

    Please provide sources to the grounds as well as the actual laws (not pretend laws) that might have been violated.
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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    No, you weren't told that by people like me. To assert otherwise is to lie.

    Your support of corruption and incompetency duly noted.

    Your support of ignorance and lies duly noted.

    But we all know that anyway ...

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    Re: Schiff announces the scope of his investigations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This proves that Mueller has zilch and the Democrats already know it.

    Correct; Mueller's report will be shooting blanks at Trump ... lots of smoke but "target" walking away with a smile ... (grin)

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