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Democrat women -the Handmaid's tale 2019

Fearandloathing said:
That demonstrates just how frightened they are. It is a HUGE mistake to attack stuff like this, as most people see such gestures as harmless, NO DIFFERENT than wearing a red hat with Make America Groan Again.

But, they instinctively know that women won last night. All the while the most untrustworthy politician in the history of America was lying his face off, there sat Nancy Pelosi like a good mom, reminding Americans Trump now has limitations and is afraid of her.

And then, cut to the crowd and a sea of white amid an ocean of nearly identical colors on men, dark suit, usually blue, and red tie (Trump never where's anything else.) It was a stark contrast and a reminder through the whole speech that the spoiled brat's days are numbered
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No one is frightened by that. Where do you get these moronic talking points from?
 
Fletch said:
No one is frightened by that. Where do you get these moronic talking points from?
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It's so obvious from the posts...

but then you wouldn't notice standing behind the big orange head of your master.

In 30 + years of political reporting I have NEVER seen such an eruption of panic as on these pages!

PLEASE!


NOT ONE WORD about what Pelosi did, but you attack women for what they are wearing?

That's political commentary for the American right?

Yeah, that's convince a lot of voters...."their women all dress the same!" from Trump on the hustings, now that is comedy.

You're not even in the fight. NOT ONE WORD about a wall...all of a sudden, but pages and pages attacking women for dressing the same.

Anything of meaning you got in that pack of lies?

See, frightened and more so. Pelosi is wreaking havoc on Trump
 
KLATTU said:
told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women
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As opposed to:

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At least their ties are different.
 
Fearandloathing said:
It's so obvious from the posts...

but then you wouldn't notice standing behind the big orange head of your master.

In 30 + years of political reporting I have NEVER seen such an eruption of panic as on these pages!

PLEASE!


NOT ONE WORD about what Pelosi did, but you attack women for what they are wearing?

That's political commentary for the American right?

Yeah, that's convince a lot of voters...."their women all dress the same!" from Trump on the hustings, now that is comedy.

You're not even in the fight. NOT ONE WORD about a wall...all of a sudden, but pages and pages attacking women for dressing the same.

Anything of meaning you got in that pack of lies?

See, frightened and more so. Pelosi is wreaking havoc on Trump
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You live in a dream world. No one is frightened by them. They wore the same color clothing to make a political statement and people are commenting on it. If people were truly scared, they would be too scared to criticize. Youre seeing what you want to see and hearing what you want to hear. But thats what TDS does
 
Lutherf said:
I dunno, Tres. While I'm sure that the uniform look was to express solidarity I also think that the choice of white was a political statement and I also think we all know what white means, politically speaking.
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The choice of white hearkens back to womens' suffrage.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) wore white to Tuesday’s State of the Union for an important reason.

“2019 is the 100th anniversary of the women’s right to vote,” the freshman lawmaker told CNN before President Donald Trump’s address. “There’s so much more that we have to fight for, from wage equality to paycheck fairness to protecting ourselves and believing survivors.”

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Ocasio-Cortez also wore white to her swearing-in ceremony earlier this year.

“I wore all-white today to honor the women who paved the path before me, and for all the women yet to come,” she tweeted at the time. “From suffragettes to Shirley Chisholm, I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for the mothers of the movement.”
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...have-to-fight-for_us_5c5ae7a3e4b00187b556fdfa

There is more to do and that's their message. Considering a fair number of those women in white are in fact women of color, your comment about hoods, makes no sense.
 
KLATTU said:
told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women
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Handmaidens wear red like the Republican women did.
 
Gina said:
The choice of white hearkens back to womens' suffrage.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...have-to-fight-for_us_5c5ae7a3e4b00187b556fdfa

There is more to do and that's their message. Considering a fair number of those women in white are in fact women of color, your comment about hoods, makes no sense.
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Gina, with respect to suffrage the government was, at the time, prohibiting women from voting. Any time the government is preventing anyone from exercising individual liberty that government should be challenged and taken to task. However, using the force of government to impose social change on the public is a different matter entirely. If we wish to maintain a free society then government must be limited to addressing inequalities in ways that are LEAST restrictive to individual liberty. Once government becomes a tool for imposing equality the people of that society are no longer free.
 
Lutherf said:
Gina, with respect to suffrage the government was, at the time, prohibiting women from voting. Any time the government is preventing anyone from exercising individual liberty that government should be challenged and taken to task. However, using the force of government to impose social change on the public is a different matter entirely. If we wish to maintain a free society then government must be limited to addressing inequalities in ways that are LEAST restrictive to individual liberty. Once government becomes a tool for imposing equality the people of that society are no longer free.
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You may not agree with AOC's specific comments (I don't want to derail the thread with a detailed discussion about those comments) but what does that have to do with hoods?
 
manofknowledge said:
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Things my Democrat women colleagues wouldn’t clap for at #StateOfTheUnion2019 tonight: America, freedom, free enterprise, law enforcement heroes, record low unemployment for women & minorities, the right of babies to live. Things they did clap for:

themselves.

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Gina said:
You may not agree with AOC's specific comments (I don't want to derail the thread with a detailed discussion about those comments) but what does that have to do with hoods?
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The hoods was more in relation to damned near everything coming back to racism these days. It was that and the proximity of this to the issues democrats are having in Virginia.

Bottom line, Gina, I'm sick and tired of carving out niche issues for everyone and then trying to use the federal government to "fix" them. I'm tired of day after day of political theater. I'm sick and tired of everything being a threat to our survival as a nation. At this point I really can't bring myself to do much more than mock all this crap.
 
Lutherf said:
Gina, with respect to suffrage the government was, at the time, prohibiting women from voting. Any time the government is preventing anyone from exercising individual liberty that government should be challenged and taken to task. However, using the force of government to impose social change on the public is a different matter entirely. If we wish to maintain a free society then government must be limited to addressing inequalities in ways that are LEAST restrictive to individual liberty. Once government becomes a tool for imposing equality the people of that society are no longer free.
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When money is speech then the wealthy control the conversation.
 
manofknowledge said:
When money is speech then the wealthy control the conversation.
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Same reason we have the Electoral College..to keep the large from tyranny over the small.
 
manofknowledge said:
When money is speech then the wealthy control the conversation.
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Money is a tool. It isn't speech. It can be used to promote speech but it isn't the only way to do that either.
 
Lutherf said:
The hoods was more in relation to damned near everything coming back to racism these days. It was that and the proximity of this to the issues democrats are having in Virginia.

Bottom line, Gina, I'm sick and tired of carving out niche issues for everyone and then trying to use the federal government to "fix" them. I'm tired of day after day of political theater. I'm sick and tired of everything being a threat to our survival as a nation. At this point I really can't bring myself to do much more than mock all this crap.
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Why would you liken women, including women of color, wearing white in historical solidarity to womens' suffrage to the klan? It makes no sense whatsoever. The quotes I provided had nothing to do with race nor anything to do with the governor of Virginia. Nothing. There is no way to connect Virginia to them sitting in the gallery, wearing their white outfits, listening to Trump give the SOTU. It's about womens' suffrage. They also wore purple and green back in the day, but they preferred white because it photographed better.

I understand your fatigue with issues you don't believe in, so mock on all you want. This did not make sense though.
 
Lutherf said:
Money is a tool. It isn't speech. It can be used to promote speech but it isn't the only way to do that either.
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It can also be used to elect bad people to government, to keep assholes like Putin in government and to wage war against your "enemies"

The love of money is the root of all evil and clearly Trump LOVES nothing more than money. And anyone who thinks Trump will EVER make a decision based on what the country needs as opposed to his own is deluded.

Yes money is a tool. And if that were all I would have no problem Trump keeping secret his tax returns unlike every other president from the beginning.

What is he hiding?
 
maxparrish said:
I don't disagree with the observation that our nation, in their political culture, has become freakishly childish; one example you missed being that of the Congresswomen getting ginned up with showboating their politicized biological sex. Historically it has not been customary for anyone to be in other than business attire, even if the politicians identified as a proud member of a religion, class, national origin, or race.

Adding to the childishness was the need for the black women, as well as some black men, to add African symbolism as an add-on apparel to assert their special racial identity - but one wonders, when will we see Americans dressed as plains Indians, desert arabs, skirted natives, kilted clansmen, or fez wearing Turks? How about some horned helmeted Vikings or lederhosen clothed for their cherished genetic heritage? Or wearing hoodies...oh wait, we've already seen that.

Honestly, this bandwagon get-up as modern day suffragettes for a cause resolved a hundred years ago is quite dumb and immature - still, in the current atmosphere we can all look forward to the men who will be coming dressed with the accoutrements of unionized coal miners with IWW buttons... you know, to assert their identity for the cameras.
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You must be fairly old to think that white suits are not "business attire" for women. It sounds like you'd only be satisfied if the room was full of white men all dressed in dark suits and white shirts.

I
 
reflechissez said:
You must be fairly old to think that white suits are not "business attire" for women. It sounds like you'd only be satisfied if the room was full of white men all dressed in dark suits and white shirts.
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And you must fairly addicted to bad faith readings to have come up with that straw man. "White" can certainty be a color in or of someone's business attire, but when it is coordinated with and adorned by a group for the sole purpose of show boating their political identity as modern suffragettes, a cause resolved a hundred years ago, no one (least of all them) are pretending its just ordinary business attire. They know, the press knows it, and you should know it.

Moreover its clear what I'd be satisfied with; Congressional men and women dressing appropriately for a Presidents State of the Union, not in fashion statement grievance group messaging. Fashion grandstanding to show grievance group "solidarity" with the avowed message that "we will not go back on our hard-earned rights" is more than dumb and crass, its a persecutory delusion crying for attention - best dealt with in group therapy, not at a national ceremonial event.
 
What if...? said:
Conservative freedom is the freedom to do as you're told.

Or else.
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it's freedom for themselves and everybody like them, everybody else has to live by the standards conservatives tell them. It would be interesting if there was a genetic link to empathy, or marker for empathy, pretty sure most conservatives would not have any.
 
KLATTU said:
told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women
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Women like ann coulter?
 
That implies that white men are the religious freaks running america. Hmmm.
 
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