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Time to redistribute the wealth . It's only fair.

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Logical1 said:
Again let have the democrats do a test case. Have them redistribute all of the billions that Soros has. We could then see if it works.
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:lamo :lamo :
Hey, a proposal that I could be in support of!
lamo :lamo
 
apdst said:
Works great in Cuba, too. Zimbabwe. South Africa.

Yeah! Can't wait! :lamo
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VENEZUELA!! CUBA!! ZIMBABWE!! SOUTH AFRICA!!

I suppose I should counter with DENMARK!! GERMANY!! CANADA!! FRANCE!! NORWAY!!
 
jbander said:
I'm Not advocating taking away anything, tell me when I said that. Changing tax structure is giving the benefit to those who deserve it. From those that don't need it, earn it or deserve it. They got there free ride for 40 years now it is the workers chance for the next 40 years , seems fair to me.
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Then why don't you just let us know what kind of tax structure you're advocating for.
 
jbander said:
Here's the deal, it can all be done with tax law,. It is how all the wealth is going to the top now and it can be changed easily to have it go to the people who actually do the work and to the poor to give them some sort of life for working their asses off. Simple as pie. Since the last 40 years everything has gone to the top with massive increases of wealth going to the already wealthy and not one dime extra and in fact a loss for the American worker. So my proposal to be fair, is to turn it around totally for the next 40 years and all new wealth going to the people who actually work for a living , that include the working poor that get ****. These wealthy pigs don't earn it, deserve it or need it. And all you suckers that's real capitalism.
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Actually, the wealth went to the people that created it which caused them to go to the top. A simple concept you loonies on the left just don't seem to be about to grasp. People are wealthy because the did the work to create it. When out them American workers would be American unemployed.
 
CaughtInThe said:
Okay. If you're gonna change the subject and say you didn't I'm just gonna assume you went to Trump U.
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You can assume anything you want, but you make an ass out of yourself, and not me. Your illiteracy is your own problem.
 
jbander said:
If you can put together a tax structure that puts every dime of new wealth of a country into the hands of the rich , tell me then why you can't do the opposite. There will be no revolution that I advocate. Jobs that are set up to make profit by paying non livable wages are simply wrong. It forces everyone else to pay for the workers subsistence with tax dollars and that is ridiculous . Why should tax money be the way for a company to have a profit. I mean talks about welfare.
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First off our system far from "puts every dime into the hands of the rich. . ."
 
jbander said:
I'm Not advocating taking away anything, tell me when I said that. Changing tax structure is giving the benefit to those who deserve it. From those that don't need it, earn it or deserve it. They got there free ride for 40 years now it is the workers chance for the next 40 years , seems fair to me.
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LOL, "fair" , accord to the idiotic Liberal lexicon. :roll:
 
Saladin4 said:
Better to end up like the Scandinavian Countries...Where citizens that unlike (America) don't hate their government , aren't filled with crazy conspiracy theorys and instead lift each other up for a better life
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You mean the Scandinavian countries that have lowered their tax rates or are planning to?
 
Saladin4 said:
I'm getting the impression many Right Wing types want to Pay NO taxes yet enjoy the benefits of others who have...Get rid of the off shore Tax dodges and Swiss Bank accounts and start from there
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Then you're getting the wrong impression. I'd bet you'd be surprised at how many of those off shore accounts are owned by Democrats.
 
jbander said:
Many democratic wealthy have advocated for higher taxes . The democrats will raise taxes if needed , like now. The Right using the promise of tax cuts for everyone , to entice the people who think they deserve it all to vote for them. So just being a wealthy democrat is suporting much of what i'm saying the rights wealthy think they deserve it all.
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If those democratic wealthy want higher taxes - let them pay them. Easy to do.
 
Saladin4 said:
Many want to pay NO taxes...Citing some Libertarian Bull****......Under trump every loophole imaginable is in place for them to achieve that goal and place the tax burden on the middle class....
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Name a few of those loopholes; show us what you're talking about. By the way the middle class pays very little of the total income tax collected.
 
jbander said:
There plan is to destroy our system but to keep the tax rate that the wealthy get it all and then demand that the problem is our safety net, to cut programs to transfer to the wealthy that tax savings
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How the hell do you come up with this ****?
 
Grokmaster said:
Here's the deal: left us know when Soros, the Clinton's , Pelosi, Warren, the Obamas, etc. decide to " redistribute" THEIR OWN WEALTH.
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Or close their off short accounts.
 
jbander said:
I'm Not advocating taking away anything, tell me when I said that. Changing tax structure is giving the benefit to those who deserve it. From those that don't need it, earn it or deserve it. They got there free ride for 40 years now it is the workers chance for the next 40 years , seems fair to me.
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Sounds like yoi want to confiscate peoples's money.
 
Saladin4 said:
In Many countries the Rich pay little or nothing ...Surround themselves with armed guards behind gated mansions, while 90% of the populace struggles with daily survival....America can do better, but under trump will it?
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Already is. Rich are paying most of income tax. And, no MOST are not struggling with daily survival.
 
Saladin4 said:
They have all advocated for a revamp of the Tax system...Unlike your hero trump
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Hello!! Trump revamped our tax system about a year ago.
 
jbander said:
If you don't contribute go. What I'm saying is for them as much as anyone. The difference is they don't think they should get it all, they will share , your lowlife wealthy think they deserve it all, but they don't/
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Let me ask this. Since most wealthy folks got there by creating a company that makes and sells things or services, why would they won't to take anything away from the people who are buying their products? Wouldn't that be stupid? And, if they held all the wealth how would they get anyone to work for them.
 
Logical1 said:
Again let have the democrats do a test case. Have them redistribute all of the billions that Soros has. We could then see if it works.
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That would require them to give up their own money, they want to redistribute your wealth not theirs. I wonder when the day will come when Bernie practices what he preaches and sells off a couple of his homes to help the poor. The 1% are evil bastards, except for Bernie of course he is on "our" side.
 
jbander said:
Here's the deal, it can all be done with tax law,. It is how all the wealth is going to the top now and it can be changed easily to have it go to the people who actually do the work and to the poor to give them some sort of life for working their asses off. Simple as pie. Since the last 40 years everything has gone to the top with massive increases of wealth going to the already wealthy and not one dime extra and in fact a loss for the American worker. So my proposal to be fair, is to turn it around totally for the next 40 years and all new wealth going to the people who actually work for a living , that include the working poor that get ****. These wealthy pigs don't earn it, deserve it or need it. And all you suckers that's real capitalism.
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I don't think we should implement policies because they are fair but because they yield good results economically. I will warn you that Europe has tried redistributive policies and people there aren't rolling in money. We can learn from their mistakes and make sure that workers are getting a bigger share of the economy but also that businesses are doing well too.
 
What an interesting idea...take the wealth of others because it is the fair thing to do.

Hmmm...

So, let's look at this for a moment and see how fair this proposal really is.



Let's look at a hypothetical young lad. We'll call him Bob. Bob is the product of a young girl who got pregnant while in high school. She marries Bob's father, a circus performer and they make a go at building a loving family. But the stress was too much and the young couple divorce after a little over a year. Without much more to give to her young son, than love, Bob's mom does the best she can. Eventually, she gets married to an immigrant to our country. Bob's step-dad teaches himself English, earns a scholarship to university where he studies engineering, and makes the marriage to Bob's mom work--providing a stable home that Bob can be raised. Moreover, they raise Bob to be curious and encourage his interests when he begins to put together electronics around home. They also push Bob academically. With his loving parents behind him, Bob graduates valedictorian from his public high school. This gets Bob admitted to Princeton where he graduates summa cum laude in computer engineering.

With his degree in hand, Bob sets out into the world of business where he toils in different firms--often working 60-80 hour weeks--until he has an idea that no one else had thought of. So, he steps off on his own, quits his job, and borrows from his parents retirement fund as he tells them that its a 70% chance he will lose it all. Undeterred, he sets out with his idea and builds a fledgling business--starting in his garage. Eventually, some outside investors take notice and provide capital. But, the economy has a jolt and his stock losses 90% of its value. But Bob keeps on. Each year, investors and business reporters question Bob's business viability after year after year, Bob's business fails to turn a profit. But Bob keeps working until his business finally starts to turn a profit...and profits it turns making Bob a billionaire multiple times over. But it's not just Bob who has success, his business gives over 1/2 million employees a stable paycheck.

So, your assertion is that it would be FAIR to simply take Bob's wealth and give it away to those who didn't have a better idea, didn't work hard in school, didn't put in long hours for years, didn't risk their parents retirement on an idea, and haven't given hundreds of thousands of employees jobs?

Hmmm....let me think about it and get back to you. :roll:
 
jbander said:
so taxes are now theft, nonsense won't work here.
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No, that would be more of a socialist incline of that one. Though the running joke back in the 50s, was that taxes were the governments form of corporal punishment for the masses.

But yes, taxation of this kind is comparable to theft and you do know what it's going to do right?

It's going to chase more and more of the wealthy out of each state that decides to do as such. Simply because they don't want to lose nearly 90% of their income to the government. Just so it can be funneled down to those that didn't earn it and last time I checked.
Giving people free crap, only emphasizes them to not go out and earn anything. Seeing as they already know that the government is going to give it to them in the first place.
 
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