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Scoop: Insider leaks Trump's "Executive Time"-filled private schedules

Praxas said:
If True, this demonstrates how incompetent and lazy he is, but not in the way that would invoke the 25th Amendment.
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To the contrary. If he is not devoting his time to the job, he is not carrying out his duties that he took an oath to carry out.
 
haymarket said:
To the contrary. If he is not devoting his time to the job, he is not carrying out his duties that he took an oath to carry out.
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How do you know what he's devoting his time to?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
He can watch TV as much as he wants as long as he is MAGA
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He SHOULD continue to just watch TV. Our economy was going stronger day by day BEFORE he took office. America doesn't need to be made great again, we always have been... :peace
 
Roadvirus said:
"Unable" doesn't mean what you want it to mean. Sorry.
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Since the Amendment does NOT provide an official definition of what constitutes the President being UNABLE - that is a decision for the VP and the Cabinet to determine.
 
MovingPictures said:
But, wait, you say, "Isn't it only if the president is incapacitated that the 25th can be used?" Well, not exactly.

See, it goes on to provide the president a means to contest his removal from office. Meaning the amendment clearly leaves open the door to be removed for insanity, incompetence, or whatever the Cabinet and/or Congress feel meets the bar.
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"Incapacitated" is not the word used. "unable" is the word used.
 
haymarket said:
Right in Section 4 of the Amendment.
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haymarket said:
To the contrary. If he is not devoting his time to the job, he is not carrying out his duties that he took an oath to carry out.
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haymarket said:
Since the Amendment does NOT provide an official definition of what constitutes the President being UNABLE - that is a decision for the VP and the Cabinet to determine.
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Being "unable" and simply not doing something are two completely different things no matter how you twist it. Not even you are that good at spinning things Haymarket, and you're a master at spinning.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Being "unable" and simply not doing something are two completely different things no matter how you twist it. Not even you are that good at spinning things Haymarket, and you're a master at spinning.
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If he is ABLE - why then is he not doing the job instead of spending most of his time secreted away watching TV, being on Twitter and generally acting like no President in US history?
 
Kal'Stang said:
So you don't know. Well, neither do I, or anyone else out in the public sphere.

As for Trump saying....don't really care. :shrug: There are more important things to care about than what Trump thinks of the body's resources.
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Don’t really care what you care. Topic is Trump working/executive time. Trump is on record stating that he has only so much energy. Deflection noted; I do know better than to engage you and expect relevancy. Have a nice evening......:2wave:
 
haymarket said:
If he is ABLE - why then is he not doing the job instead of spending most of his time secreted away watching TV, being on Twitter and generally acting like no President in US history?
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Prove that he is spending most of his time secreted away watching TV and being on Twitter.

Regardless, if he chooses to not do something then that is a choice, that is not being unable to. Why doesn't really matter. When it comes to the 25th Amendment, what matters is if he is able to, or unable to.
 
Rexedgar said:
Don’t really care what you care. Topic is Trump working/executive time. Trump is on record stating that he has only so much energy. Deflection noted; I do know better than to engage you and expect relevancy. Have a nice evening......:2wave:
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Deflection? You're the one that brought it up. Not me. It has nothing to do with what Trump is actually able to do.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Prove that he is spending most of his time secreted away watching TV and being on Twitter.

Regardless, if he chooses to not do something then that is a choice, that is not being unable to. Why doesn't really matter. When it comes to the 25th Amendment, what matters is if he is able to, or unable to.
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When Trump makes himself available to me for a thorough questioning, I will be glad to provide you the evidence that will "prove it". Until then, you and I and everyone else will have to go by the released schedules combined with many reports about how he spends his so called "executive time", his behavior during daily briefings and his general work habits.

Every American, and that includes me, is free to pass judgment on the man who serves them in the White House and that is my judgment based on what I know about it.

He has shown that he is unable to be President. So it is time to invoke the 25th. That is what it is there for.
 
haymarket said:
This is more evidence calling into serious question the fitness of Trump to hold our nations highest office. The 25th Amendment should be invoked and steps taken to remove Trump from office ASAP.
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On ABC Evening News tonight they calculated, on the basis of these leaked schedules, that Trump only works 20% of the time when he is in the WH. I'd like to see the actual percentage when we add in all the time he spends golfing.

IOW, Trump is a PART TIME president.
 
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JacksinPA said:
On ABC Evening News tonight they calculated, on the basis of these leaked schedules, that Trump only work 20% of the time when he is in the WH. I'd like to see the actual percentage when we add in all the time he spends golfing.

IOW, Trump is a PART TIME president.
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Thank you for that report. It is more evidence that Trump is not doing the job he promised to do in taking the oath of office. He must be removed ASAP as he is the single greatest threat to our nation and our people in three-quarters of a century.
 
Kal'Stang said:
When you have something more than "Executive Time" get back to us. Do you really think 400+ people (quite a few just simple "aides") are going to have access to any Presidents full itinerary? :roll:
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No, but the fact that 60%+ of his time is unstructured suggests strongly that Trump is doing very little that pertains to governance. For instance, at the very least, were he actually doing something of note, there'd at least be segments of time noted on the "general distribution" schedule with labels such as, but not limited to, "security briefing," congressional meeting," "economy management meeting," "cabinet meeting" "meet with 'so and so,'" etc. Activities such as that, not unstructured/unencumbered "executive time," should occupy the vast majority of his working day just as similar, yet obviously different, "carve outs" fill the schedules of every executive of every large organization in the world.

And let's be honest, the man is paid to govern, not to politic, yet it appears from his utterances and the schedule that's been released, that politicking is largely what he spends his time doing. Hell, we could as well have a committed "soap opera" and daytime talk show watcher run the government and we'd be getting no worse governance work from him/her.
 
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haymarket said:
He has shown that he is unable to be President. So it is time to invoke the 25th. That is what it is there for.
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You can't invoke the 25th Amendment at the snap of a finger over some vague report about how he spends his time plus your dislike for him.
 
Roadvirus said:
You can't invoke the 25th Amendment at the snap of a finger over some vague report about how he spends his time plus your dislike for him.
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The daily schedule of the president for several months is not some "vague report".
 
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