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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong

    The law you referred to does not make simply saying something offensive on Facebook or Twitter a crime
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...21/section/127


    And the UK is not a socialist nation
    And who determines "grossly offensive"? Indecent? Obscene? Menacing I can understand as it is like our own laws to a degree. But the others? Entirely subjective and would NEVER be allowed here in the US so long as we hold to our ideals of Freedom of Speech.

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    England isn't a Socialist country.
    Not strictly no. But it leans heavily towards Democratic Socialist, which is what the OP is about.

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    If you're implying that enforcement is imperfect or sometimes misguided, overzealous or even just simply prone to occasional mistakes, then surely you're aware that happens everywhere.

    The world will never run out of teachable moments in that regard.
    Misguided? Certainly. Overzealous? Again, most certainly. "Mistake"? Doing the same thing over and over is not a "mistake".

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by noonereal View Post
    The OP os from Kentucky, about as backwards a place as there is in teh USA. I am sure he has no idea of what utopia is.
    Kentucky?...I prefer to fly over that backward state

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And who determines "grossly offensive"? Indecent? Obscene? Menacing I can understand as it is like our own laws to a degree. But the others? Entirely subjective and would NEVER be allowed here in the US so long as we hold to our ideals of Freedom of Speech.
    Before we go any further, have you given up arguing that simply saying something offensive is a crime in the UK because you now realize that you were wrong?

    Or do you plan on dishonestly changing the subject every time you are proven wrong, and hope that no one notices?

    Or are you foolishly clinging to your claim that simply saying something offensive on Twitter or Facebook is a crime in the UK, even though the text of the law clearly contradicts your argument?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't have any issue with any investigation.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not strictly no. But it leans heavily towards Democratic Socialist, which is what the OP is about.
    Actually, no it doesn't. It isn't a collective.
    It's disgraceful. I'm going to maybe and I'm looking at it very seriously. We're doing some other things that you probably noticed like some of the very important things that we're doing now. But we're looking at it very seriously because you can't do that. - President Donald J. Trump

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Before we go any further, have you given up arguing that simply saying something offensive is a crime in the UK because you now realize that you were wrong?

    Or do you plan on dishonestly changing the subject every time you are proven wrong, and hope that no one notices?

    Or are you foolishly clinging to your claim that simply saying something offensive on Twitter or Facebook is a crime in the UK, even though the text of the law clearly contradicts your argument?
    I am currently checking on a point of one of our rules. Give me a bit of time and I may be able to provide an example.

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Bring on free healthcare for everyone. Bring on free education for everyone. Steal from the rich and give to the poor. Have the government take over and dictate to large employers. It's called a Utopian society and this is what a Utopian society looks like:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/caracas-s...112924797.html


    Not the Utopia I envision.
    I get tired of right wing thinkers constantly shrilly shouting socialism and we will be Venezuela! In America government does not own the means of production nor will it ever. We are much too independent to ever allow it. We already have Capitalism and free enterprise coupled with social programs. That's all it is and all it will ever be. The mood in America has changed. The rich will always be rich, just not as rich as they have been allowed to be decade after decade.

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I am currently checking on a point of one of our rules. Give me a bit of time and I may be able to provide an example.
    Take your time
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't have any issue with any investigation.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: This Is What Democratic Socialists In The US Will Bring Us:

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Bring on free healthcare for everyone. Bring on free education for everyone. Steal from the rich and give to the poor. Have the government take over and dictate to large employers. It's called a Utopian society and this is what a Utopian society looks like:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/caracas-s...112924797.html


    Not the Utopia I envision.
    When a Democratic socialist politician campaigns by saying, your healthcare is going to be "free" and your children will have free college education, don't believe it.
    All of it will be subsidized through higher taxes, taken right out of your paycheck. You're going to be paying for it alright, and the more you make, the more they take.

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